Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,188

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#193804 May 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Tony, just so you know Frankie is not the least bit interested in Polygamy and has said so, he only uses it to attack anyone that supports same sex marriage.
Never assume he is being honest about anything he says, he has been caught in so many lies by so many people here it is staggering.
He is nothing but a troll
If I wasn't interested in it wouldn't have to be deflecting your constant attempts at censorship.

Perhaps you'll refer us to proof of even one of my alleged lies.

You are lying when you say I have been caught in any lies and you know it. It's your M.O. When cornered, you lie.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#193805 May 30, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
He doesn’t understand that there is no such thing as "more illegal" It was illegal before, and will continue to be illegal after…. Zero effect.
Whether or not it should be illegal is a different question, I personally don’t have a problem with poly by consenting adults.
But it doesn’t have public support the way Same sex marriage has
He is not the sharpest tool in the shed
Prop 8 discriminates against polygamy the same as it does against SSM. What don't you understand about a man and a woman? Does it say men? Does it say women? Always ask for help. Remember, there are no stupid posts, only stupid posters such as yourself.

If the other laws against polygamy were repealed but prop 8 was not, would polygamy be legal? No? What would be stopping it? Prop 8 would! Very good! See Big D? It's easy!

I'm not a tool in the shed and you are not smart.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#193806 May 30, 2013
Where's Big D? He's usually here telling lies by now.

And of course fighting for truth!(by lying) justice!(for those he deems worthy) And the Big D way!

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#193807 May 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Prop 8 discriminates against polygamy the same as it does against SSM. What don't you understand about a man and a woman? Does it say men? Does it say women? Always ask for help. Remember, there are no stupid posts, only stupid posters such as yourself.
If the other laws against polygamy were repealed but prop 8 was not, would polygamy be legal? No? What would be stopping it? Prop 8 would! Very good! See Big D? It's easy!
I'm not a tool in the shed and you are not smart.
in order to make polygamy legal, certain legal aspects wouls have to be specified.

inheritance and probate questions of who gets what in the absence of a will (which wife/husband?)

medical proxy decisions. imagine if the husband is out driving with one of his multiple wives and is killed in an accidemnt or seriously injured and in a coma along with the wife. Does another wife get to make medical decisions involving the injured wife?

how are the children rated in terms of inheritance. What if their mom dies, and a few years later the patriarch passes....normally all belongings would go to the wife (wives in this case) over the children. This puts the children of the previously deceased wife in a bad situation
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#193809 May 30, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
in order to make polygamy legal, certain legal aspects wouls have to be specified.
inheritance and probate questions of who gets what in the absence of a will (which wife/husband?)
medical proxy decisions. imagine if the husband is out driving with one of his multiple wives and is killed in an accidemnt or seriously injured and in a coma along with the wife. Does another wife get to make medical decisions involving the injured wife?
how are the children rated in terms of inheritance. What if their mom dies, and a few years later the patriarch passes....normally all belongings would go to the wife (wives in this case) over the children. This puts the children of the previously deceased wife in a bad situation
We don't deny equal protection just because granting it would be too complicated for you. Sorry. Try again.

Your other excuses why it should be illegal are bigoted and stupid.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#193812 May 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Prop 8 discriminates against polygamy the same as it does against SSM. What don't you understand about a man and a woman? Does it say men? Does it say women? Always ask for help. Remember, there are no stupid posts, only stupid posters such as yourself.
If the other laws against polygamy were repealed but prop 8 was not, would polygamy be legal? No? What would be stopping it? Prop 8 would! Very good! See Big D? It's easy!
I'm not a tool in the shed and you are not smart.
Again, you are WRONG!

It wasn't the Prop. 8 decision, nor was it DOMA that kept polygamy from being legalized.

It was Reynolds v. United States (1878). "Chief Justice Morrison R. Waite, writing for a unanimous court, held that the statute can punish criminal activity without regard to religious belief. The First Amendment protected religious belief, but it did not protect religious practices that were judged to be criminal such as bigamy. Those who practice polygamy could no more be exempt from the law than those who may wish to practice human sacrifice as part of their religious belief."

So you see, bigamy determined to be illegal well over a century before DOMA or Prop. 8 came along.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#193813 May 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
The gay pedophiles are jumping for joy...
Pedophiles are pedophiles... It doesn't matter if they are gay or straight. There are no legal codes in any state or jurisdiction that separates "gay pedophiles" from "straight pedophiles" or "bisexual pedophiles".

Furthermore, in medicine and psychiatry, there is only a diagnosis of "pedophilia". There are no specifications for "gay pedophile", "straight pedophile" or "bisexual pedophile".

There isn't even a designation for "Baptist pedophile", "Catholic pedophile" or "Atheist pedophile".

That you keep trying to paint gays as pedophiles is a blatant lie. You have nothing else to throw at the gays other than another one of your ignorant, hate-inciting, concocted terms.

You are a pastor who should know better than to do this. But you don't.

You stopped being a man of God long ago. Now you're just a little, insignificant, shit-stain of a human being.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#193814 May 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
Here is the disappointing reality of all this gay twirl.
A ss couple will only ever be only a duplicated HALF of marriage.
Nothing can change that.
You can't force people to deny that reality.
A law or a piece of paper cannot change it.
The result can ONLY be another fruitless gay encounter.
A law and a piece of paper is all that counts when it comes to being legally married.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#193815 May 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
"So let’s fight for marriage equality until it extends to every same-sex couple in the United States—and then let’s keep fighting. We’re not done yet." -Jillian Keenan.
Of course we're not done yet. We still have to battle job discrimination, housing discrimination, bullying issues, and other anti-LGBT discrimination issues.

At Vanderbilt University, a gay man attempted to join a Baptist Student organization. He was denied entry based on his sexual orientation.

This organization is funded not only by student fees and private donations, but also by state and federal dollars that are given to the University by way of student loan money, scholarships, and grants.

You couldn't deny entry to such an organization based on religion, race, gender, or handicap. So why is it OK for them to deny entry based on sexual orientation? There are many gay Baptists out there. This student should be given the same rights as all other applicants.

Did you think that same-sex marriage is the only issue that the LGBT community is interested in?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#193816 May 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Pedophiles are pedophiles... It doesn't matter if they are gay or straight. There are no legal codes in any state or jurisdiction that separates "gay pedophiles" from "straight pedophiles" or "bisexual pedophiles".
Furthermore, in medicine and psychiatry, there is only a diagnosis of "pedophilia". There are no specifications for "gay pedophile", "straight pedophile" or "bisexual pedophile".
There isn't even a designation for "Baptist pedophile", "Catholic pedophile" or "Atheist pedophile".
That you keep trying to paint gays as pedophiles is a blatant lie. You have nothing else to throw at the gays other than another one of your ignorant, hate-inciting, concocted terms.
You are a pastor who should know better than to do this. But you don't.
You stopped being a man of God long ago. Now you're just a little, insignificant, shit-stain of a human being.
How do you distinguish pedophiles who molest only boys from those who molest only girls?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#193817 May 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
A law and a piece of paper is all that counts when it comes to being legally married.
Maybe for SS couples, but not for real marriage.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#193818 May 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, you are WRONG!
It wasn't the Prop. 8 decision, nor was it DOMA that kept polygamy from being legalized.
It was Reynolds v. United States (1878). "Chief Justice Morrison R. Waite, writing for a unanimous court, held that the statute can punish criminal activity without regard to religious belief. The First Amendment protected religious belief, but it did not protect religious practices that were judged to be criminal such as bigamy. Those who practice polygamy could no more be exempt from the law than those who may wish to practice human sacrifice as part of their religious belief."
So you see, bigamy determined to be illegal well over a century before DOMA or Prop. 8 came along.
What don't you understand about "a man and a woman"? It's a very simple concept really, in addition to preventing same sex marriage prop 8 also prevents poly marriage.

Sure there are other laws against poly, same as there are or have been against same sex. But we're talking prop 8 here as you jackasses like to rudely remind me every time you're at a loss for an effective argument which is always.

Prop 8 discriminates against poly marriage as surely as it does against SSM. Don't hog all the victimhood.
smacked OUT

Covina, CA

#193819 May 30, 2013
WE SHOULD ADD A FEW MORE PSOTRS NAMES TO THE TESTING LIST.

Drug tests are needed to bring back confidence in the American justice system.

May 2013 a Illinois Judge Michael Cook is charged with possessing heroin and having a gun while illegally using controlled substances.

This includes everyone who works in a court house etc.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#193820 May 30, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course we're not done yet. We still have to battle job discrimination, housing discrimination, bullying issues, and other anti-LGBT discrimination issues.
At Vanderbilt University, a gay man attempted to join a Baptist Student organization. He was denied entry based on his sexual orientation.
This organization is funded not only by student fees and private donations, but also by state and federal dollars that are given to the University by way of student loan money, scholarships, and grants.
You couldn't deny entry to such an organization based on religion, race, gender, or handicap. So why is it OK for them to deny entry based on sexual orientation? There are many gay Baptists out there. This student should be given the same rights as all other applicants.
Did you think that same-sex marriage is the only issue that the LGBT community is interested in?
But none of that stuff for polygamists in VV la la land?

Imagine if MLK was like you. Equality for his race only. All other races need not climb that mountain.

Life in VV La La Land sucks for unapproved groups. Let em eat cake.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#193821 May 30, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you distinguish pedophiles who molest only boys from those who molest only girls?
Pedophiles, whether they molest boys only or girls only, or both are straight. Says so in the rainbow handbook.

For example Jerry Sandusky, who raped only boys ("horsing around") is straight. If unbeknownst to him a boy he was raping turned 18 before Jerry came, then Jerry would turn gay.

Easy! Glad you asked.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#193822 May 30, 2013
smacked OUT wrote:
WE SHOULD ADD A FEW MORE PSOTRS NAMES TO THE TESTING LIST.
Drug tests are needed to bring back confidence in the American justice system.
May 2013 a Illinois Judge Michael Cook is charged with possessing heroin and having a gun while illegally using controlled substances.
This includes everyone who works in a court house etc.
You need testing.
Anonymous

Vallejo, CA

#193823 May 30, 2013
Nigeria lawmakers pass anti-gay marriage bill - Lawmakers in Nigeria passed a bill Thursday banning gay marriage and outlawing anyone from forming organizations supporting gay rights, setting prison terms of up to 14 years for offenders.
http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22457196/nigeria...
Vall Ejo

Covina, CA

#193824 May 30, 2013
The California measure or bill/law calls for revoking the tax-exempt status of youth groups that discriminate against participants on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identification.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#193825 May 30, 2013
The Boy Scouts of America discriminates against children who believe membership should be limited to boys who are morally straight. The Government should repeal the BSA tax exempt status.

Ronald

“equality for ALL means ALL”

Since: Jan 07

Fort Lauderdale FL

#193826 May 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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No need to make assumptions, your hostility towards polygamy is obvious.
As if you didn't pull any assumptions about me out of your ass.
And now you're lying.

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