Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 200,984

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191687 May 10, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
No there are a lot of guys named Jesus, I know 3 personally
Don't stat lying again, you were talking about the most famous one who you saw hiding behind your water heater and called the cops on. The one you insist is imaginary.
Fridays

Covina, CA

#191688 May 10, 2013
Just can't get enough of this BULL, the posters keeping this one going are still "brain dead"..
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191689 May 10, 2013
Fridays wrote:
Just can't get enough of this BULL, the posters keeping this one going are still "brain dead"..
Aw shuddup you silly jackass!

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#191690 May 10, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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To wed someone in a religious ceremony is entirely different than to legally marry someone.
True,but both are marriage ceremonies none the less.
I'm sure that people who wish to have multiple partners can wed if they find a pastor willing to do this. They do so with the understanding that state and federal governments do not recognize plural marriage.
Same as with SSM in non legal SSM states.
Marriage is not defined the same in all fifty states. Eleven states and the District of Columbia recognize marriage between same-gender partners.
True, however an OSM is recognized in all fifty states.
Should same-gender partners be forced to leave the state of their residency and move to a state that allows them to legally marry?
No one is forced to marry, nor leave,their state of residency to do so.
And what of the federal benefits and protections that are afforded to legally married opposite-gender couples? Shouldn't couples who are legally married in the eleven states and D.C. also be given federal benefits and protections?
Should the federal government be forced to recognized every and any marriage sanctioned by a state?
Here's something to ponder... If the U.S. were invaded next week by a serious enemy and the federal government enacted the draft in order to fight, gay and lesbian citizens of the U.S. would be required to enlist. They would be forced to defend the country--putting their lives on the line to protect you, me, and every other person living here.
Is it right that gay and lesbian service personnel be denied the federal benefits and protections of marriage, yet be called upon to defend the country?
A person who serves his/her country militarily either as a volunteer or draftee, doesn't get to choose which laws are fair or not simply on the basis of his/her service. It's not fair that an 18 yr old can serve, but not consume an alcoholic beverage in some states.
Openly gay service personnel are doing just that--even as I type. Yet their spouses; people who they have legally married in states that have passed same-gender marriage laws, cannot live on base with their active duty spouse, cannot shop in a base exchange for groceries, clothing, cannot receive family VA treatment, etc.--all due to the Defense of Marriage Act.
How is this fair?
Is it fair to force the federal government to recognize a relationship it does not wish to recognize?
Is a gay person's service to this country different than a straight person's service? Do gay people die differently in combat than straight people?
Do Catholics die differently than Muslims, or Jews, Mormons, or Protestants?
Gay and lesbian people DESERVE equal rights. It's that simple.
They have EQUAL rights, same as any other man or woman. No more no less.
Patterned Out

Covina, CA

#191691 May 10, 2013
Maybe those OLD BALD men on the Glendora, California city council should watch this video too;

Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191693 May 10, 2013
Patterned Out wrote:
Maybe those OLD BALD men on the Glendora, California city council should watch this video too;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =WLRhN8gL1k0XX
Aw shuddup you dopey jackass.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191694 May 10, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Hi shat head, still searching for a life?
No, got a good one already. How about yourself jackass?

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#191695 May 10, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
The question isn't what harm, it is, does it equate.
No, that wasn't the question. It's your bias.
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>

A piece of paper equating a fake relationship to marriage isn't going to fix the lack of commitment..
Presumptive and Kunty.
KiMare wrote:
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..or the deprivation of a child's parent.
In spite of your best spin, marriage (or Holy Matrimony, for those of us who marry in places like the UCC) isn't about children. I've participated in hundreds of weddings, and only one had the couple's children involved in the ceremony.
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>

This isn't rocket science...
Snicker.
No, it isn't rocket science, so why do you try to complicate it with your own biases? When you boil it down to what it really is, it's really quite simple. Why must you over-think it. Oh, that's right, you're merely trolling.

Troll on, Kuntmary.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#191696 May 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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They have EQUAL rights, same as any other man or woman. No more no less.
No some same sex couples marriages are recognized legally, while others are not, they do not have equal rights.

That is in the process of changing so that they do have equal rights.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191697 May 10, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
No, that wasn't the question. It's your bias.
<quoted text>
Presumptive and Kunty.
<quoted text>
In spite of your best spin, marriage (or Holy Matrimony, for those of us who marry in places like the UCC) isn't about children. I've participated in hundreds of weddings, and only one had the couple's children involved in the ceremony.
<quoted text>
No, it isn't rocket science, so why do you try to complicate it with your own biases? When you boil it down to what it really is, it's really quite simple. Why must you over-think it. Oh, that's right, you're merely trolling.
Troll on, Kuntmary.
"You're a troll" Said the cyber-stalking troll creep.
Fridays

Covina, CA

#191698 May 10, 2013
Just can't get enough of this BULL, the posters keeping this one going are still "brain dead" PackOderms..

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#191699 May 10, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Wrong there are over 120,000 legally married same sex couples in the US right now, some 18,000 are right here in California.
You cannot equate to reality is the problem, same sex marriage is not a question, it is a fact.
Smile.
But different. A sterile duplicate half of real marriage.

Kind of like calling liberals patriots.

Snicker.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#191700 May 10, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I fail to see the connection.
I think you do.

Especially since homosexuals are not segregated and heterosexuals are with regard to sleeping quarters. Common sense would tell you sexual assault would be greater.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#191701 May 10, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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But different. A sterile duplicate half of real marriage.
Kind of like calling liberals patriots.
Snicker.
No it isnít different, the fact that I consider your marriage a sham and the fact that you consider their marriage a sham is meaningless.

Legally they ( and you ) are married.. period

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#191702 May 10, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
But different. A sterile duplicate half of real marriage.
Kind of like calling liberals patriots.
Snicker.
Both clever, and funny.

Not.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191704 May 10, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you do.
Especially since homosexuals are not segregated and heterosexuals are with regard to sleeping quarters. Common sense would tell you sexual assault would be greater.
I think excluding homosexuals from fighting for us was very stupid. From my experience they make fine soldiers and sailors. Who cares if someone peeks at your little winky dink anyway?

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#191706 May 10, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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True,but both are marriage ceremonies none the less.
<quoted text>
Same as with SSM in non legal SSM states.
<quoted text>
True, however an OSM is recognized in all fifty states.
<quoted text>
No one is forced to marry, nor leave,their state of residency to do so.
<quoted text>
Should the federal government be forced to recognized every and any marriage sanctioned by a state?
<quoted text>
A person who serves his/her country militarily either as a volunteer or draftee, doesn't get to choose which laws are fair or not simply on the basis of his/her service. It's not fair that an 18 yr old can serve, but not consume an alcoholic beverage in some states.
<quoted text>
Is it fair to force the federal government to recognize a relationship it does not wish to recognize?
<quoted text>
Do Catholics die differently than Muslims, or Jews, Mormons, or Protestants?
<quoted text>
They have EQUAL rights, same as any other man or woman. No more no less.
I know all of these issues have been presented before, but try to follow my logic...

1.) Homosexuality is not a disorder. It hasn't been considered a disorder in this country for 40 years.

2.) Homosexual intercourse is not illegal.

3.) Since homosexuality is considered to be a normal, legal expression of the physical and emotional attraction that millions of tax-paying, law-abiding, U.S. Citizens engage in, why would the government be interested in keeping them from legitimizing their relationships by way of legalized marriage? Exactly what argument can be made to deny these people the right to marry the consenting, unrelated, adult partner of their choice?

4.) And don't respond flippantly by saying, "Well that's the law in 50 states." I'm not talking about what IS the law. I'm talking about WHY is it the law?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#191707 May 10, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>I did a bit of digging on the subject. You might want to look a bit deeper, as you are a complete dumbazz. The rise is attributed to heterosexuals, its in print.
Yeah yeah, blame it on us heteros Jizzy.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#191708 May 10, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I think you do.
Especially since homosexuals are not segregated and heterosexuals are with regard to sleeping quarters. Common sense would tell you sexual assault would be greater.
Yeah, because a man who looks like Bruce Willis's ass (you) is so completely irresistible.

Please don't try to use common sense; it eludes you.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#191709 May 10, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I think you do.
Especially since homosexuals are not segregated and heterosexuals are with regard to sleeping quarters. Common sense would tell you sexual assault would be greater.
Afraid your mangina would attract the boys like flies to a turd?

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