Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Xavier Breath wrote:
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No, it's YOUR opinion. You don't give any reasons WHY you think polygamy deserves the same respect and consideration. You just think whatever bullshit comes out of your mouth is valid because YOU said it.
val·id (vld)
adj.
1. Well grounded; just: a valid objection.
2. Producing the desired results; efficacious: valid methods.
3. Having legal force; effective or binding: a valid title.
4. Logic
a. Containing premises from which the conclusion may logically be derived: a valid argument.
b. Correctly inferred or deduced from a premise: a valid conclusion.
Why does it not deserve the same respect and consideration?

It deserves the same respect and consideration because it is marriage, just like same sex marriage no better, no worse. Equal. It has been around way longer that same sex marriage and it is more common throughout history than same sex marriage.

And most of all it deserves respect and consideration for the EXACT SAME REASONS same sex marriage deserves respect and consideration.

Why are you a hypocrite?
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I know! I know!
Anybody that's ever taken a psychology class knows the answer to that!
>looks at top of page<

And you scream poly MARRIAGE is off topic.
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He is like a little kid doing a play magic act that everyone can see through and we are just laughing and snickering
How wrong you are. You laugh at someone who has displayed more depth of understanding than you. Like the kindergartner, laughing at the teacher.
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Yeah, when it isn't telling people to give their kids pearl necklaces, and shyte like that ... Making up things like Jesus blew negroes.
Look how long her profile has lasted. When you or I say stuff only 1/10 as bad as she routinely does, Poof! Disappeared. Banished. Like in some cheap third world banana republic.
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<quoted text>Tell me about it. I have been married for 30+ years. I am not skeered by same sex marriage. If my old lady can put up with me, WTF how would two guys being married change it.
What does your wife do while you're cruising the gay threads bird man?
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When did I ever say that? Every person in this country illegally is a criminal. Not an opinion, a fact.
Now deciding how serious this crime is and how we deal with it is where the differences may lay
I never said or implied that you said that, I was asking. I actually figured, wrongly, that you would welcome them.
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International investigators said that they found an email exchange with an account associated with a criminal money laundering operation in St. Petersburg, Russia, describing how to and where to make the wire transfers.
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I never said or implied that you said that, I was asking. I actually figured, wrongly, that you would welcome them.
every person that commits is commiting a crime

every person that drives over the speed limit is commiting a crime

it is a wide range, don’t assume too much

My desire to secure our borders has nothing whatsoever to do with color, culture, race, of food preference. Notice our largest border is the least secure, the one to the north
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Yes we did... read up on the subject first, 18,000 same sex couples were married before Prop 8 went into effect. It was a legal right, they legally married, are still legally married today and recognized by the state as married.
That right.. was removed, new same sex couples do not have the same rights as the 18,000 that did marry and are still married.
It would seem that this issue has been flip-flopping a lot.
"From the enactment of legislation in 1971 to replace gendered pronouns with gender-neutral pronouns, until 1977, California Civil Code § 4100 defined marriage as "a personal relation arising out of a civil contract, to which the consent of the parties capable of making that contract is necessary." This definition was uniformly interpreted as including only opposite-sex partners, but, because of worries that the language was unclear, Assembly Bill No. 607 was proposed and later passed to "prohibit persons of the same sex from entering lawful marriage." The act amended the Civil Code to define marriage as "a personal relation arising out of a civil contract between a man and a woman, to which the consent of the parties capable of making that contract is necessary."[17] Since 1994, this language is found in § 300 of the Family Code"

"City officials in San Francisco claimed that although the 2004 marriages were prohibited by state law, the state law was invalidated by the Equal Protection Clause. The mayor echoed this view, permitting the marriages because he believed the state law was unconstitutional. However, legislators and groups opposing same-sex marriages quickly reacted, filing a suit and requesting a court order to prevent the city from performing the ceremonies. Additionally, the California state agency that records marriages stated that altered forms, including any marriage licenses issued to same-sex couples, would not be registered. The legal validity of the marriages was tested in the courts, and the marriages were ultimately voided by the state Supreme Court."
"As of June 16, 2008, gay couples can get married in California.

The change in California marriage laws is due to the 5/15/08 California Supreme Court ruling that "the right to marry in California extends equally to all, gay and straight alike."
Source: Bob Egelko, "State's top court strikes down marriage ban"

From differing sources. Please, do not assume that I have not read up on the subject. It makes you look silly. It has not always been legal, hence, it was illegal, and is being bandied about. So, these rights were not always present for the gays, making my statement correct. These "rights" have been granted, then removed again. now, it is in flux.
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How about this one- If you make up stupid shit, people will think you are stupid.
Yes, you've shown us that, again and again. You keep at it, though. It's why we all agree that you are stupid. Like when you made the claim that bias does not exist in this forum. LOL Like when you make all those ridiculous claims like that, it's why we laugh at you. You're all mixed up.
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What does your wife do while you're cruising the gay threads bird man?
This is funny and the answer will be an interesting one.
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What does your wife do while you're cruising the gay threads bird man?
I was reading some of these war stories on another page and they are funny.
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Wow..... how profound. <snark>
What is profound is your idiocy. I straighten out a misunderstanding, on the part of one of your fellows, and you mock it. Hilarious. You'll try to mock anything, no matter how off-target your shots may be.
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No I researched the numbers. You can too. Please do, if you are not too ignorant to accomplish that simple task.
But you'd rather shoot from the hip and call me stupid as a response. And then say your opinions are valid and mine are not.
Bulls-eye, old chap, bulls-eye!
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Why is it "Jizzy" posts get removed?
They don't. He posts under another name, now. Don't know why. They should, though, for being off-topic.
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It gets boring wiping the floor with him after a while, just too easy to do.
Another false claim, from the Minister Of Propaganda.
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What's a "gerbal" and why do you bring it up? What do "gerbals" have to do with marriage equality?
Gerbils are the subject of other forums, the ones for fun and joking, perhaps you are lost. This is a thread about the judge overturns the ban on SSM.
Polygamy is off topic but "gerbals" are not?
He was posting to Goebbels, The Reich Minister Of Enlightenment And Propaganda. Goebbels, gerbals, not much difference there.
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<quoted text>Frank do you enjoy being a jackass? You make fun of gay people and think that you are funny. Did it ever occur to you that gay people find you offensive?
To you the issue of marriage equality is nothing more than a joke. Frank to the LGBT family, its not funny.
You are mistaken. He, as do I, targets idiots, no matter which side of the fence they sit on.
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<quoted text>If sexuality does not matter, then why should two men or two women be denied the same rights as a man and woman?
Look up "sexuality". Look up "gender". Examine the differences. See? Easy. They are not the same thing. You are confusing the former with the latter. Obfuscation again. Semantic hopscotch. Literary leapfrog. Identification issues. Detail dementia.
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<quoted text>My friend you are correct. I just enjoy messing with his head. Its a real mind fluck.
LOL Do you really imagine that a pimple on the ass of humanity, like yourself, could bother Frank? It is to laugh. Thanks for the joke. Need some more iodine?

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