what i don't understand is how any one church or faith thinks they get to dictate to others how to practice someone's faith, or how to believe. case in point is a discussion i was involved in the oklahoma city topix thread about gay marriage with one fellow named antitheist who couldn't accept there were other denominations or faiths that believed differently than his chosen denomination he followed (which he finally confessed being a southern baptist). just where do they get the justification, the downright smugness, in thinking they get to dictate what or who a christian is in the first place? they don't own the word "christian" any more than i do. yet he really believes he's the one that says who is and who isn't a christian and how anyone and everyone gets to believe.<quoted text>
They are desperate, they are losing the legal battle ( which is the only battle of any importance ), so they are desperately trying to convince themselves that their ignorant bias has an excuse.
They cannot win, they are losing on every front, people are even leaving their churches as they have exposed themselves to be little more than a hate group.
Sometimes I think the Westborough Baptist church has done more for Same Sex marriage than anyone else has. Winston Churchill once indicated that England owes more to the vices of John than to the enlightenment or valor of other kings ( or something like that, I didnít look it up ), I can see his point. It is much the same here.
The ignorant and hateful bias of these people has exposed what they are, and people turn their backs on them. When the pulpit become a political grandstand, they lost their innocence and their way, and it exposed them for what they actually are.
You have it exactly right, they are desperate, and really have no hope left.
nevermind the fact that this country isn't a theocracy. that just seems to dumbfound many that think that their closely held religious beliefs should be made into public secular laws. everytime i read things like that, i just have to shake my head in disbelief.