Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Marram wrote:
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So what, whether Iím a hater or a hypocrite it doesnít matter, I still deserve Gay Marriage rights. And I donít have to care about others rights in order to deserve them. Thanks for the tantrum though, you never disappoint with your silly retorts.
Why do you make that bogus claim? Is it because we happen to disagree with your opinion? Grow up.

And..
"I donít. All the haters like he/she/it are willfully and arrogantly ignorant."
Try harder, pigeon-chest. WE know what's right, and we are not going to allow you to railroad us.
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Go try speaking freely in China.
Why, are you planning on moving there?
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So what, I'm a hypocrite. Still doesn't change the fact that I deserve Gay Marriage equality. Now what do you have to say about that silly man? roflmao at you.
Actually, there is no equality in your request, as there is a disparity in your team..
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Marram wrote:
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On second thouht, I have no idea what you're talking about, care to expain?
Is English that difficult.......for you?
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I read it super slowly, still don't understand. Care to explain?
Go and ask mommy to draw you some pictures.
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From Wikipedia...
The Bill of Rights lists specifically enumerated rights. The Supreme Court has extended fundamental rights by recognizing several fundamental rights not specifically enumerated in the Constitution, including but not limited to:
The right to interstate travel
The right to intrastate travel
The right to privacy (which includes within it a set of rights) including:
a. THE RIGHT TO MARRIAGE (emphasis added)
b. The right to procreation
c. The right for a woman to choose to have an abortion before fetal viability
d. The right to contraception (the right to use contraceptive devices)[16]
e. The right of family relations (the right of related persons to live together)
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Now, I'm not an attorney. I won't pretend to be one. But it's my understanding that "the right to marry" has been supported by 14 Supreme Court Cases.
I would say that your claim has been disproven!
Marriage, yes, in the accepted and traditional terms, as was understood then.
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Go and ask mommy to draw you some pictures.
Marram doesn't understand what a right is. But he wants the "right to gay marriage" and we must give it to him dammit!

What a dope.
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You are so ignorant
Can you please show me the law where Human Fruit is mentioned?
What it is called is marriage, equal regardless of Race, Creed, Color, Sex, Religion, Orientation or National Origin
You are the one avoiding the point, there are already 18,000 legally married same sex couples in California right now, MARRIED, as legal and as recognized as your marriage or any other.
The legal question is why are new same sex couples not given the equal opportunity to marry as the 18,000 same sex couples that already are married.
Which means that the real question is why should new SSC's be given something that the first 18K shouldn't have been given..
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Wow, this is the problem with only getting your information from Faux news
Are you really unaware of how much they have won so far?
25 years ago no states or nations recognized same sex marriage.
The tally is climbing so fast it is hard to keep up, Delaware is the next state I think, California already does recognize same sex marriage by the way, there are 18,000 legally and recognized same sex married couples in California right now, France looks to be the next nation
They are winning right and left, every month the numbers change, and always in their favor.
We both know that section 3 of DOMA will fall, that means federal recognition of same sex marriage, Prop 8 is doomed no matter what the Supreme Court decides, as it will just go on the next ballot and Prop 8 will go down in a walk.
Are you really this blind as to what is actually happening, open your eyes.
No, we are well aware of what is happening..
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Which means that the real question is why should new SSC's be given something that the first 18K shouldn't have been given..
Your opinion does not matter, just as my opinion that Charles Manson should be dead right now doesnít matter.

There are 18,000 legally recognized same sex married couples in California right now... not an opinion, a fact. As legal and as recognized as your marriage ( assuming you are ) and mine ( I am )

Now Same sex couples are not being treated equally, some were allowed to marry, others cannot, dont fool yourself into thinking that isnít a part of the equal rights issue because it is.

It is the most likely reason that Prop 8 will fail, there are 2 standards for same sex marriage in a state that recognizes same sex marriage.( yes California does, or there would not be 18,000 legally recognized same sex marriages in California regardless of Prop 8 )
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No, we are well aware of what is happening..
You may be, some of the folks on your side are obviously not.

The numbers are changing monthly, Delaware is about to recognize them, so is Nevada come the next election cycle, more nations are about to recognize them as well, it is in the news every day.

It is far too late to try and stop justice now.
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Great point! What's it prove again?
Get some substance for chrissakes Miss Ad Hominem.
You can't convert anyone into being gay, dumbass. Is it really THAT difficult for you to comprehend what you read? Jesus!
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Joisey is NY's funniest joke. You just need to say "Joisey" in NY and you'll get a laugh.
Not as big a laugh as your posts get!
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Which means that the real question is why should new SSC's be given something that the first 18K shouldn't have been given..
The real question is how far are you willing to twist reality to fit your fucked-up thought process. "Shouldn't have been given" is a rather bogus claim, since it was given by the State.

I am SO looking forward to reading about your head exploding when SCOTUS tosses Prop 8.
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You can't convert anyone into being gay, dumbass. Is it really THAT difficult for you to comprehend what you read? Jesus!
They donít comprehend that, they are so insecure in their own sexuality that they are afraid they will be "converted"

They are more afraid of you, than you are of them
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They donít comprehend that, they are so insecure in their own sexuality that they are afraid they will be "converted"
They are more afraid of you, than you are of them
Why would I be afraid of them? They are simple cowards and completely bereft of intellect.

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Really? I am sure that you can cite specifically where in Article III of the US Constitution the court is granted the power to "interpret law" or for that matter where they are granted the power to create "right's"?
Hell, how about you tell us where the Federal Judiciary found the authorization in Article III to HEAR the Prop 8 Case in the first place?
This was a State matter, not a Federal one.
Well, apparently a number of people who are a whole lot more knowledgeable about the matter than you or I have decided that it was worth hearing.

And 14 Supreme Court rulings that identified marriage to be a right of all U.S. citizens seems to be at odds with your beliefs.

Maybe you believe that you know more about law than these people. Is that the case? If so, why didn't you offer your services to the proponents of Proposition 8? Maybe you did. Maybe they didn't want it.
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France became the 14th country in the world to allow same-sex couples, when its parliament approved a law that has sparked often violent street protests and a rise in homophobic attacks.

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Proposition 22 was a law enacted by California voters in March 2000 to restrict marriages to only those between opposite-sex couples. In May 2008, it was struck down by the California Supreme Court as contrary to the state constitution.

The Act was proposed by means of the initiative process. It was authored by the state senator William "Pete" Knight and is known informally as the Knight initiative. Voters adopted the measure on March 7, 2000 with 61% in favor to 39% against.[1] This large margin of victory surprised many, since a Field Poll immediately prior to the election estimated support at only 53%, with 40% against and 7% undecided.[2]

The Act added Section 308.5 of the Family Code, which read "Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California". Because the Act was an ordinary statute, it could be struck down if it were inconsistent with the state constitution. This occurred on May 15, 2008 when the state supreme court, ruling on In re Marriage Cases, declared that same-sex couples had a constitutional right to marry.[3] This 4Ė3 decision invalidated Proposition 22 and some related California laws.

Despite the brevity of Proposition 22 (it added only fourteen words to the Family Code) its effect provoked debate long after its passage. In November 2008 California voters overturned the In re Marriage Cases decision by approving an amendment of the state constitution called Proposition 8.

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just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Stop being stupid, and accept LGBT people as your equals.
Why is it "LGBT", instead of "BGLT", the latter being in alphabetical order?

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