Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,038

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Pietro Armando

Schenectady, NY

#189781 Apr 22, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Can I answer that question?
Yes! A court can interpret law to determine that same-gender marriage is a right guaranteed to citizens of the U.S.
Furthermore, lawmakers can CREATE a law to give same-gender couples the right to marry.
Welcome to the world that the rest of us live in. Glad to have you back.
A court can interpret the law to determine plural marriage is a right guaranteed to citizens of the U.S., too.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#189784 Apr 22, 2013
For those of you who oppose same-gender marriage, the folks from Westboro Baptist Church seem right up your alley.

Here is one of their latest press releases:

"The federal government is classifying the bombs as a terrorist attack, but say itís unclear if itís of a domestic or foreign nature... Hereís a hint ó GOD SENT THE BOMBS! How many more terrifying ways will you have the LORD injure and kill your fellow countrymen because you insist on nation-dooming filthy fag marriage?!"
SEYMOUR DUCK

United States

#189786 Apr 22, 2013
Forget it. Empty swimming lets do a ses, SK8 Again friday. May be a band? Bible study for sure.That pool is So fluid.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#189787 Apr 22, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Whoa Cowboy, you have admitted that you are a bold faced liar.
No I didn't, you're lying again Jizzy.

But you have admitted you are stupid.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#189788 Apr 22, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Frankie, its all about credibility. You see Frankie, when you lie, about simple things such as a military career, and then being a geologist with 44 years of experience. How are we to know that you support marriage rights as you say that you do? No, Frankie you are just another troll that does not support marriage rights. You like to play the game, but you suck at it.
I haven't lied, save your silly lecture for yourself you often lie. No one cares about my life except you Jizzy. And it's very creepy.

If all I've said about my life was not true, so what? Does that prove your are right and same sex marriage shouldn't be allowed?

What harm would a loving marriage of two women cause you Jizzy? Why are you a bigot?

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F Rizzohasntsleptf or9days

Sacramento, CA

#189789 Apr 22, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I haven't lied, save your silly lecture for yourself you often lie. No one cares about my life except you Jizzy. And it's very creepy.
If all I've said about my life was not true, so what? Does that prove your are right and same sex marriage shouldn't be allowed?
What harm would a loving marriage of two women cause you Jizzy? Why are you a bigot?
This is an honest question, when was the last time u slept lol? They got some good stuff in Union City apparently.
F Rizzohasntsleptf or9days

Sacramento, CA

#189790 Apr 22, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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I haven't lied, save your silly lecture for yourself you often lie. No one cares about my life except you Jizzy. And it's very creepy.
If all I've said about my life was not true, so what? Does that prove your are right and same sex marriage shouldn't be allowed?
What harm would a loving marriage of two women cause you Jizzy? Why are you a bigot?
O ya I almost forgot to say, see u in about 30 seconds.
F Rizzohasntsleptf or9days

Sacramento, CA

#189791 Apr 22, 2013
Damn wtf is Rizzo at?? He should of been here by now for sure...

Since: Jun 07

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#189793 Apr 23, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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This will probably be the last I post on this issue.
The data was not skewed.
Unless you can show me where the authors of the study specifically say that their findings did not reveal that "homophobic" men had a response to homoerotic stimuli, then your claim is wrong.
I did, I even quoted it for you.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#189794 Apr 23, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Can I answer that question?
Yes! A court can interpret law to determine that same-gender marriage is a right guaranteed to citizens of the U.S.
Really? I am sure that you can cite specifically where in Article III of the US Constitution the court is granted the power to "interpret law" or for that matter where they are granted the power to create "right's"?

Hell, how about you tell us where the Federal Judiciary found the authorization in Article III to HEAR the Prop 8 Case in the first place?

This was a State matter, not a Federal one.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#189795 Apr 23, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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From Wikipedia...
The Bill of Rights lists specifically enumerated rights. The Supreme Court has extended fundamental rights by recognizing several fundamental rights not specifically enumerated in the Constitution, including but not limited to:
The right to interstate travel
The right to intrastate travel
The right to privacy (which includes within it a set of rights) including:
a. THE RIGHT TO MARRIAGE (emphasis added)
b. The right to procreation
c. The right for a woman to choose to have an abortion before fetal viability
d. The right to contraception (the right to use contraceptive devices)[16]
e. The right of family relations (the right of related persons to live together)
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Now, I'm not an attorney. I won't pretend to be one. But it's my understanding that "the right to marry" has been supported by 14 Supreme Court Cases.
I would say that your claim has been disproven!
Wow, from google to wiki. You really are a genius.

BTW, I didn't ask you for a list of things the court HAS done, I asked you from where they found the enumerated power TO do it.

I'm sorry that you simply bow to your overlords without question. I suggest you spend a little less time on google and wiki, and a little more time on the Constitution, Federalist Papers, Madison Journal etc.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#189796 Apr 23, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>

Now, I'm not an attorney. I won't pretend to be one.
That's an understatement.
veryvermilion wrote:
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But it's my understanding that "the right to marry" has been supported by 14 Supreme Court Cases.
That is because you use wiki too much.

What the court has upheld is the "right" of the GOVERNMENT to REGULATE marriage.

If marriage was a "right" there would be no regulation, there would be no license, there would be NO definition. It would be something you could partake in with complete FREEDOM from government.

Funny how everyone seems to understand that driving in a "privilege" but are somehow confused when it comes to marriage?

Both require a license, both require that one meet certain criteria to qualify, yet somehow there is confusion.

Sad thing is, if the homosexual community had framed their position correctly without rhetoric. If they had taken the position that the government doesn't have the "power" to regulate the personal lives of their citizens. If it had been truly framed as a fight for FREEDOM. They would have probably met little resistance, and had nearly 100% support.

Where does the government gain the right to regulate the personal lives of the citizen? The answer is quite simple, we gave it to them, and we continue to do so. The one and only truth is, that is the SCOTUS rules a national "right" to same sex marriage, you haven't "won" anything. You have simply expanded the governments role in your personal lives.
veryvermilion wrote:
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I would say that your claim has been disproven!
Buy a dictionary:

"disproven"

The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary. Click on a spelling suggestion below or try again using the search bar above."
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dis...

dis∑prove
[dis-proov] Show IPA
verb (used with object), dis∑proved, dis∑prov∑ing.
to prove (an assertion, claim, etc.) to be false or wrong; refute; invalidate: I disproved his claim.
Origin:
1350Ė1400; Middle English < Anglo-French, Old French desprover, equivalent to des--dis- 1 + prover to prove

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#189797 Apr 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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You are a silly girl.
Do you really think a court can make a duplicated sterile half equate to the union of a man and woman that produce human fruit?
When all is said and done, that vast distinction will still be obvious. No matter what you call it, every time you see a ss couple and a hetero couple, that is exactly what you will know.
I think you will need the 'luck' in the coming months, the slap of reality is bitch.
Smirk.
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Can I answer that question?
Yes! A court can interpret law to determine that same-gender marriage is a right guaranteed to citizens of the U.S.
Furthermore, lawmakers can CREATE a law to give same-gender couples the right to marry.
Welcome to the world that the rest of us live in. Glad to have you back.
Interesting, you fail to answer a direct question to you, but want to jump in on another one. I guess the plate get's to hot when you engage directly. Like with ak...

As to your 'answer'...

Where did I ever talk about 'rights'?

You deliberately avoid the point, because you have absolutely no counter. Of course a court can make laws, and establish rights, whether they be valid or not.

What no man can do is change the clear distinction between a redumbant sterile half relationship with marriage.

The attempt is so silly stupid. When all is said and done, all that will be accomplished is a bunch of duplicate gendered couples with a piece of paper. Everyone will wink and say, "Yep, you're married, reminds me EXACTLY of mom and dad."

Snicker smile.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#189799 Apr 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
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You are a silly girl.
Do you really think a court can make a duplicated sterile half equate to the union of a man and woman that produce human fruit?
When all is said and done, that vast distinction will still be obvious. No matter what you call it, every time you see a ss couple and a hetero couple, that is exactly what you will know.
I think you will need the 'luck' in the coming months, the slap of reality is bitch.
Smirk.
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Interesting, you fail to answer a direct question to you, but want to jump in on another one. I guess the plate get's to hot when you engage directly. Like with ak...
As to your 'answer'...
Where did I ever talk about 'rights'?
You deliberately avoid the point, because you have absolutely no counter. Of course a court can make laws, and establish rights, whether they be valid or not.
What no man can do is change the clear distinction between a redumbant sterile half relationship with marriage.
The attempt is so silly stupid. When all is said and done, all that will be accomplished is a bunch of duplicate gendered couples with a piece of paper. Everyone will wink and say, "Yep, you're married, reminds me EXACTLY of mom and dad."
Snicker smile.
You are so ignorant

Can you please show me the law where Human Fruit is mentioned?

What it is called is marriage, equal regardless of Race, Creed, Color, Sex, Religion, Orientation or National Origin

You are the one avoiding the point, there are already 18,000 legally married same sex couples in California right now, MARRIED, as legal and as recognized as your marriage or any other.

The legal question is why are new same sex couples not given the equal opportunity to marry as the 18,000 same sex couples that already are married.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#189800 Apr 23, 2013
akpilot wrote:
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you haven't "won" anything.
Wow, this is the problem with only getting your information from Faux news

Are you really unaware of how much they have won so far?

25 years ago no states or nations recognized same sex marriage.

The tally is climbing so fast it is hard to keep up, Delaware is the next state I think, California already does recognize same sex marriage by the way, there are 18,000 legally and recognized same sex married couples in California right now, France looks to be the next nation

They are winning right and left, every month the numbers change, and always in their favor.

We both know that section 3 of DOMA will fall, that means federal recognition of same sex marriage, Prop 8 is doomed no matter what the Supreme Court decides, as it will just go on the next ballot and Prop 8 will go down in a walk.

Are you really this blind as to what is actually happening, open your eyes.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#189801 Apr 23, 2013
morning glory wrote:
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Do you still practice incest?
No, I never did. How long have you been eating your boogers?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#189802 Apr 23, 2013
F Rizzohasntsleptfor9days wrote:
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This is an honest question, when was the last time u slept lol? They got some good stuff in Union City apparently.
I get a good solid eight hours a night, and I don't do speed, you shouldn't either.

I wouldn't know about the quality of crank in Union City but I'll take your word on it.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#189803 Apr 23, 2013
F Rizzohasntsleptfor9days wrote:
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O ya I almost forgot to say, see u in about 30 seconds.
No you won't.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#189804 Apr 23, 2013
F Rizzohasntsleptfor9days wrote:
Damn wtf is Rizzo at?? He should of been here by now for sure...
That's what happens when your stupid. Your "should have been" are also stupid.
TimesUp

Covina, CA

#189806 Apr 23, 2013
Time to retire this one.

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