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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201862 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#188981 Apr 17, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Big D.....its rather simple actually. Historically there are two sexes, historically humans reproduce sexually, historically both sexes are needed for that to happen, historically human societies have understood all of that....that's why marriage throughout time and place.... Boy girl.
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So sex between men and women no longer makes babies? There are no longer two sexes?
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How many have argued that sex between men and women doesn't make babies? Or argued there aren't two sexes?
So sex between men and women no longer makes babies?
Marriage is not all about sex, prostitution is all about sex, not marriage. No wonder you worry about the stability of your marriage.

There you go with that "historically" word again, Yes Historically Marrage has been between a man and woman and slavery was the norm in most scotieits and women were considered lesser than men.

But I am not interested in going backwards, I am not a republican

Homosexuality was punished by death historically, much like being a Christian was punished by death in early parts of history, or being protestant was punished by death not all that long ago, or slavery was the norm quite recently on a "historically" time scale.

Again, I am not interested in "Historically" I am more interested in what is the right thing to do.

You are on the same side of the "Historically" fence that Bloody Mary or the inquisition was in murdering protestants, or the slave holders were, or the Crusades that decided first to murder Jews in their own territories than travel all the way to the "Holy land" ( not that those were much better ) or people that fought women's rights and equality.

You may pine for those "historical" days

I donít

Same sex marriage is a fact... now.... today, even in California there are 18,000 legally married same sex couples.

They arenít going back, and I am not on the side that wants them to.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188983 Apr 17, 2013
So is that it for today Jizzy? You shot your whole wad with the "why you mad Frankie?" troll?

Cool beans! Oh snap! Did you think real long before you made that one up? Oh. that's right you didn't make it up, you copied it from me.

What a dummy!

Too funny!
S HillsWC

Covina, CA

#188984 Apr 17, 2013
While four West Covina, California city council member's sat glued to their seats and took repeated attacks on there own FAILURE to stop what took place Feb. 05, 2013..
Steve Herfert of a well known Racists Gang who operate in West Covina.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#188985 Apr 17, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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You just watch and see.
If everyone got gay married, there'd be a lot less children. So that's another reason I support gay marriage.
It's like math stuff.
I hope you are right, I really do

I doubt it will be enough
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#188987 Apr 17, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Yes. You are angry. And why? Because I am making you see that you are using the same arguments against a form of marriage you don't you agree with as those against SSM use.
The slippery slope is real. But insignificant and not a reason to deny equal rights. Any arguments that it is not real are dumb.
you know what really amuses the heck outta me?

someone (you) that's a complete and total utter stranger that posts on the interenet thinks they know me well enough to judge whetehr or not i'm "angry". what a knee slapper!

and again, my friend, i have not stated where i stand on poly marriage. this is not the forum for that discussion so i will not comment on poly marriage.

laws are not passed based on "what ifs" (your slippery slope). they cannot be since the future is unknown. perhaps if you could mathmatically prove that any of your red flags will definetly occur and when, then you might be able to say your slippery slope will happen. but, since that is impossible to predict, to quote my son "ya got nuttin".
S HillsWC

Covina, CA

#188988 Apr 17, 2013
While four West Covina, California city council member's sat glued to there seats and took repeated attacks for there own FAILURE to stop what took place Feb. 05, 2013..

Steve Herfert of a well known Racists Gang who operate in West Covina., with what took place it does appear this council is scared S it Less of the repercussion's.

The mayor S. Sanderson babbled and rambled during her time on the microphone, there was a yellow streak starting at the top of her blonde head and ran down her back, her eyes fluttered and bounced around clearly she is NOT councilmember material.

Mike Touhey didn't have the guts to be seen in public but he was there at he meeting April 16, 2013. He hid in the shadow's in the back dark corner of the West Covina city council chamber.

The waddling yellow rag writer, George Ogden didn't appear at the West Covina city council meeting April 16, 2013 - I suspect he hasn't disgraced the council chambers ever since he wrote a article in the SGVxaminer.com newspaper defending his actions and of Steve Herfert.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188989 Apr 17, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>No its because you're a lonely old man. You spend your days trolling the gay threads trying to justify your bigotry and existence. You try to gain sympathy by claiming to be a disabled Vet, yet you never served a day. You think that by demeaning gays and lesbians you will be accepted into mainstream society. Life has played a cruel joke on you, I get that. Its not to late to change Frankie.
Too funny! Your mad Fruitloops.

You consistently marginalize straights. You are a coward. Your life sucks. You never served a day. You are also a punk. You cannot justify your hate and bigotry in attempting to demean me.

You are a cruel joke on life! It's too late for you to change.

YUK!YUK!YUK! I am a much better troll than you.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#188990 Apr 17, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
<quoted text>
you know what really amuses the heck outta me?
someone (you) that's a complete and total utter stranger that posts on the interenet thinks they know me well enough to judge whetehr or not i'm "angry". what a knee slapper!
and again, my friend, i have not stated where i stand on poly marriage. this is not the forum for that discussion so i will not comment on poly marriage.
laws are not passed based on "what ifs" (your slippery slope). they cannot be since the future is unknown. perhaps if you could mathmatically prove that any of your red flags will definetly occur and when, then you might be able to say your slippery slope will happen. but, since that is impossible to predict, to quote my son "ya got nuttin".
Bingo!
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#188991 Apr 17, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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If the other laws against polygamy were repealed but prop 8 stayed in force would polygamy be legal in California? No? Why not? Because prop 8 forbids it! Duh!
Prop 8 discriminates against poly the same as it does against same sex marriage. Or else it would say marriage is "only men and women" But it doesn't say that it says marriage is "only ONE man and ONE Woman"
if you think prop 8 discriminates against poly marriages, then, please, by all means, do something about it. have at it. it's not up to me to stop you since i as a private citizen don't get to vote on civil rights.

good luck.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188992 Apr 17, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
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you know what really amuses the heck outta me?
someone (you) that's a complete and total utter stranger that posts on the interenet thinks they know me well enough to judge whetehr or not i'm "angry". what a knee slapper!
and again, my friend, i have not stated where i stand on poly marriage. this is not the forum for that discussion so i will not comment on poly marriage.
laws are not passed based on "what ifs" (your slippery slope). they cannot be since the future is unknown. perhaps if you could mathmatically prove that any of your red flags will definetly occur and when, then you might be able to say your slippery slope will happen. but, since that is impossible to predict, to quote my son "ya got nuttin".
You're angry. Anyone can see that.

I support marriage equality. You do not. So climb down off your high horse and help Jizzy ("just the facts") troll, he's real bad at it.

And he's very mad at me, just like you!
S HillsWC

Covina, CA

#188993 Apr 17, 2013
While four West Covina, California city council member's sat glued to there seats and took repeated verbal attacks from voting residents for there own FAILURE to stop what took place Feb. 05, 2013.

Steve Herfert of a well known Racists Gang who operates in West Covina, the remaining four council members are scared S it Less of the repercussion's.

The mayor S. Sanderson babbled and rambled during her time at the microphone, there was a yellow streak starting at the top of her blonde head and ran down her back, her eyes fluttered and bounced around clearly she is NOT councilmember material.

Mike Touhey didn't have the guts to be seen in public but he was there at the meeting April 16, 2013. He hid in the shadow's in the back dark corner of the West Covina city council chamber.

The waddling yellow rag writer, George Ogden didn't appear at the West Covina city council meeting April 16, 2013 - I suspect he hasn't disgraced the council chambers ever since he wrote a article in the SGVxaminer.com newspaper defending his actions and of Steve Herfert.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188995 Apr 17, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
<quoted text>
you know what really amuses the heck outta me?
someone (you) that's a complete and total utter stranger that posts on the interenet thinks they know me well enough to judge whetehr or not i'm "angry". what a knee slapper!
and again, my friend, i have not stated where i stand on poly marriage. this is not the forum for that discussion so i will not comment on poly marriage.
laws are not passed based on "what ifs" (your slippery slope). they cannot be since the future is unknown. perhaps if you could mathmatically prove that any of your red flags will definetly occur and when, then you might be able to say your slippery slope will happen. but, since that is impossible to predict, to quote my son "ya got nuttin".
My "slippery slope" will slip us right into marriage equality.

I support marriage equality. You do not.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188996 Apr 17, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
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if you think prop 8 discriminates against poly marriages, then, please, by all means, do something about it. have at it. it's not up to me to stop you since i as a private citizen don't get to vote on civil rights.
good luck.
I am doing something about it. Trying to reform your bigotry. Just like you think you are doing. But you are not. You are just promoting more of the same. Marriage equality only for groups you approve of.
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#188998 Apr 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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You will have a piece of paper, but anyone who looks at your partner and you will immediately see the difference. Even a child will know.
Smile.
great! we'll have that valuable piece of paper - nothing else matters as that would mean we'd have to care about your personal opinion for those "looks" to matter.

see, here in america, we all can think feel or believe any way we see fit. we just can't cross the line and affect someone else's rights with those thoughts feelings or beliefs. isn't that cool how that works here? we all get to decide for ourselves what we think about something and it doesn't matter to anyone else!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188999 Apr 17, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Does it hurt to be that damn stupid?
You tell us.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#189000 Apr 17, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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My "slippery slope" will slip us right into marriage equality.
I support marriage equality. You do not.
Overturning Prop will put us exactly where we were before Prop 8 was put into effect.

No more, no less
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#189001 Apr 17, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Bingo!
"Bingo"! Such genius! Teach that idiot Jizzy how to troll. Please! He's so bad at it he thinks he's not a troll. You're not real good at it either with stuff like your "bingo" troll, but better than that dopey Jizzy.

Help Jizzy.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#189002 Apr 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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You will have a piece of paper, but anyone who looks at your partner and you will immediately see the difference. Even a child will know.
Smile.
So... the exact same way I look at you and your partner and the piece of paper you two have.

I can spot your type comming a long way away

That is all they want, and they will get it.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#189003 Apr 17, 2013
just the facts wrote:
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What is truly said is this. You seem to think its an admirable trait.
Don't be sad Jizzy!

Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#189004 Apr 17, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Judging your actions and comments made on other Gay and Lesbian threads, I must call you out as a bold faced liar.
Judging by your actions and comments on straight threads I must call you a silly jackass dummy who dropped out of high school.

P.S. What's your wife do while you troll the gay threads?

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