Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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But, neither Cameron, nor Rekers, are to be discounted, as they were right on the money, regardless of you claims that they are faulty.
X-Box says they lack credibility because they are gay.
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So decrees the "Super D", with his arms folded, and eyes all ablaze, like Frylock... The pontification is concluded.
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Did you know that Dr. George Rekers had to bow out of the Family Research Institute after he was found to have employed the services of a paid male escort (i.e.: prostitute) to accompany him to Europe?
The escort spilled the beans--including the nude massages and sex that took place.
Your dear Dr. Rekers is a big, old queen, honey! He's a self-loathing queen, but he's a queen nonetheless.
And Dr. Paul Cameron is so far up the Family Research Institute's ass that he can't be taken seriously.
I mean really... Is this the best you can come up with?
And his homosexual activities were disapproved of? Tsk-tsk. How bigoted. Why should he be ostracized? Because of his activities? Or, perhaps, because of his unpopular views, within his own circle? It would seem that not toeing the National Agenda has it's consequences, in the land of the free, and the home of the brave, and all that disappearing claptrap. 1st Amendment be damned.
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Same sex sexual behavior? Wow? Did we invent something new? I don't think so.'Sexual behavior' is an adequate phrase, unless, of course, your intent is to demonize.
Such as when using words like: "Homophobe", "Bigot", "Hater", "Racist", "Antifeminist", "Non-American", "Communist", "Fascist", "Nazi" and the myriad of terms that you use, in order to marginalize and demonize. Then. demonization is "Cool beans" and such? Your hypocrisy is showing, there, purple-passion.
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In Olson’s view, the state may not officially prefer heterosexual marriage by a policy so mild that it does nothing other than to leave same-sex couples alone while declining to formally recognize their unions. By what reasoning, then, could it have a right to prefer some definition of marriage by actually punishing those who choose to disregard it?
Moreover, in his summary of what the Supreme Court has “said” about polygamy, Olson omitted to mention the single most famous case dealing with this question, Reynolds v. United States. In that case the Court upheld the federal law forbidding polygamy in the territories of the United States, and declined to find that the free exercise clause immunizes those who practice it for religious reasons.
Most of the Court’s argument is dedicated to the original meaning of the Constitution’s religion clauses, but also noteworthy is its passing comment on the basis of the law in question, a basis that the Court at that time apparently found unquestionably legitimate:“Polygamy has always been odious among the northern and western nations of Europe .. and from the earliest history of England polygamy has been treated as an offense against society.”
Reynolds has never been overturned and indeed has been cited as an authority by the modern Supreme Court. In it the Court tells us straightforwardly the basis of laws prohibiting polygamy: moral disapproval of the practice. This raises a serious problem for the defenders of same-sex marriage.
A number of the Court’s precedents defending a “right of privacy” have already strongly undermined the idea that the majority’s moral convictions are a sufficient basis for law. If the Court finds a right to same-sex marriage, it will practically dismantle the whole concept of morals legislation. But if moral preference for heterosexual marriage cannot be a reasonable basis on which to afford it a formal recognition denied to other unions, then how can moral disapproval be a reasonable ground on which to forbid and punish polygamy?
Let us turn now from the distinctions Olson overlooked to the ones he emphasized. In the first place, Olson contended that polygamy raises serious concerns about “exploitation,”“abuse,” and “patriarchy” that aren’t relevant to same-sex marriage. Presumably he was referring to the “abuse” and “exploitation” of the children and perhaps wives of plural marriages. Yet, under the constitutional theory of marriage Olson has tried to sell, none of these considerations would be sufficient to forbid polygamy. Olson insists that marriage is a fundamental right. Standard Supreme Court doctrine holds that fundamental rights can only be infringed to defend a “compelling state interest” and that the regulations made to protect that interest must be drawn as narrowly as possible.
Everyone would concede that prevention of abuse and exploitation of children and wives is a compelling state interest. On the other hand, nobody would contend that such abuse and exploitation is the very essence of polygamy. After all, abuse and exploitation can be found in monogamous marriages, too. The most one could say is that these problems are dangers to which polygamous unions are more or less prone. In any case, under the “fundamental rights” doctrine on which Olson relies, the least restrictive means to remedy such dangers would be to recur to already existing laws punishing such abuse and exploitation, rather than going so far as to ban polygamy altogether.
Olson may also have been hinting that the state could reasonably fear that abuse and exploitation of children is more likely to arise in families where the children are not related by blood to all of their parents. This is a reasonable concern, but it could be raised just as easily in relation to same-sex marriages, where at best, only one parent can be biologically related to each child.
Careful, buddy, don't confound them, with irrefutable logic, you'll get banned.
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"Just the facts" accused Rock of making "SSSB" up. I showed it was in use as an abbreviation. "sexual behavior" is too vague. Really, intent to demonize? Paranoid much?
"just the facts" is an idiot.
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just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>I googled it and found not one matching use. I stopped looking after 26 pages
Well that proves it then!

Ah, what is it that you are you trying to prove? That the acronym "SSSB" is not an acronym? How will that help your dumb argument Jizzy?

What a dope!
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Because it speaks to their motivation to lie. Damn, are you completely stupid?
You must be, to tie homosexual behavioralists to lying. It shows what you think of your own. And, illustrates your own propensity, for same.
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<quoted text>n your case, stupify.
How delightfully evasive of you.
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<quoted text>How many guys have you blown?
And you, too. Wonderful show of flagrant irrelevancy. Truly typifying...
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<quoted text>There is the difference. I have never, 99.99 % of all straight guys would have said none and never will. Yet you feel remorse for never trying. Very telling. Hey Framkie its never too late. Did you win any medals for bull shitting?
How can your gay ass claim that it hasn't snorked on some stiffie? Come on, now, be honest, we're all friends in here, it can be our little secret.
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"Just the facts" accused Rock of making "SSSB" up. I showed it was in use as an abbreviation. "sexual behavior" is too vague. Really, intent to demonize? Paranoid much?
Not paranoid, at all. Just a damn liar, is all.
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<quoted text>I googled it and found not one matching use. I stopped looking after 26 pages
Do you mean THESE "non-existent" search results? These, that I CUT-N-PASTED, in a laughably easy manner...These don't exist? ROFLMAO @ your stupid ass. I'm sorry to laugh, but you make it SO easy to laugh...

"SSSB sexual behavior" (goes into the searchbar)

OhioLINK ETD: Corbley, Chad
Participants were also asked about same-sex sexual behaviors (SSSB), sexual orientation identity, and attitudes towards lesbians and gays.
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Components of Sexual Orientation: Attractions, Behaviors, and ...
Participants were also asked about same-sex sexual behaviors (SSSB), sexual orientation identity, and attitudes towards lesbians and gays.
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Oppose WA HB 1515
Will they be taught that same-sex sexual behavior and relationships are ... there is no credible evidence that such feelings or same-sex sexual behavior (SSSB)...
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Safer Sex Skills Building (SSSB)| Best-Evidence ...
Decrease unsafe sexual behaviors; ... Safer Sex Skills Building (SSSB) is a group intervention consisting of 5 sessions, approximately 90 minutes each,...
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Safer Sex Skills Building (SSSB)- NE Florida Counts ...
Ranking: Evidence-Based Practice: Description: The goal of the Safer Sex Skills Building intervention is to decrease unsafe sexual behaviors among heterosexually ...
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Myths vs. Facts
... 22 Brain tissue is actually changed by habitual patterns of behavior, making SSSB sometimes difficult to treat. 14 ... The sexual behavior of men in the United ...
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Healthy San Bernardino :: Promising Practices :: Safer Sex ...
Safer Sex Skills Building (SSSB)... The goal of the Safer Sex Skills Building intervention is to decrease unsafe sexual behaviors. Results / Accomplishments:
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could be classified under the umbrella of same-sex sexual behavior (SSSB), same-sex sexual attraction (SSSA), or a mixture of same-sex desires and/or behavior (SSSAB).
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Healthy Arizona :: Promising Practices :: Safer Sex Skills ...
Safer Sex Skills Building (SSSB)... The goal of the Safer Sex Skills Building intervention is to decrease unsafe sexual behaviors. Results / Accomplishments:
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Well that proves it then!
Ah, what is it that you are you trying to prove? That the acronym "SSSB" is not an acronym? How will that help your dumb argument Jizzy?
What a dope!
As you can see, I felt an obligation to instruct "LilJizzy" to lie better. His slip was showing...
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<quoted text>Run that by Frankie, he has remorse. Why are you into sodmy?
"Sodmy" with the opposite sex is cool beans. "Sodmy" with ones own gender is redundant, and wrong. OK? Clear now?
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<quoted text>Still dreaming up war stories hey Frankie. Stop ridding the coat tails of service men and women. You never served a single day.
I'd serve with him on any front. You...... Well, you'd probably end up somewhere that you shouldn't have gone. Enough said.
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<quoted text>Really, you would. Even if its imaginary? Frankie stole the I served in Nam from Old swift boater. Damn son get a friggin clue
How do you steal "I served in Nam" you sorry ass-ed Jody coward?

I did two tours in Vietnam. And some time in Korea. I got the DD-214 to prove it. I'll meet your Jody ass at the VFW you frikkin coward.

Hope that helped.
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<quoted text>Safer Sex Skills Building (SSSB)
The goal of the Safer Sex Skills Building intervention is to decrease unsafe sexual behaviors among heterosexually ...
I acknowledge your cherry-picking 1 out of many, in order to appear to have disproved my point. But cherry-picking has left all of the rest intact. Weak and lame.
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<quoted text>Really, you would. Even if its imaginary? Frankie stole the I served in Nam from Old swift boater. Damn son get a friggin clue
I throw no insults at SwiftieBill, concerning his service, either. Did you know Frankie, in the 'Nam years (I bet not)? I'll get no clues from you, Jody. You won't offer anything of value. Just as you cherry-picked, in order 'to appear' to have been right. You were revealing yourself there, and you have no credibility with me, sir. I'd bet dimes to dollars that Frank served.
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<quoted text>Really, you would. Even if its imaginary? Frankie stole the I served in Nam from Old swift boater. Damn son get a friggin clue
And even if he didn't, Damnit, I like the cut of his jib.

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