Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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The U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 1878 that plurality of wives (polygamy), as originally permitted by the Mormon religion, violated criminal law and was not defensible as an exercise of religious liberty. The Latter-day Saints renounced polygamy in 1890, but the practice has persisted among some, although it has been rarely prosecuted.
Why don't you quote some of the old laws against same sex marriage? You don't like them as much as you like the ones against poly?

Is it your argument that polygamy should stay illegal because of tradition jackass? Or like Rose_NoHo and X-box insist, polygamy is not allowed because it's illegal!

SSM was once illegal too dummy, still is in most states. You won't go to jail for it, but you cannot do it. Shall I post those laws?

What is your point in telling me polygamy is illegal jackass?
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<quoted text>Like I said Frankie, its against the law. Face it, you where never in the service. You are full of shat.
I am a decorated two tour combat veteran. You are a punk.
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I am a two tour Vietnam combat veteran punk. How dare you say I am not an American.
Your lies have been bad enough.
You can't win an argument with me so your resort to insulting a disabled veteran?
That's what he's got.
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I am a two tour Vietnam combat veteran punk. How dare you say I am not an American.
Your lies have been bad enough.
You can't win an argument with me so your resort to insulting a disabled veteran?
Don't let Jody bother you.
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<quoted text>Jefferson wanted to change the penalty, he did not make the existing law double illegal.
I was placing your claim of: "used to be legal" into its proper context.
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SSSB - Acronyms and Abbreviations - The Free Dictionary
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Acronym, Definition. SSSB, Stiftelsen Stockholms Studentbostäder (Swedish: Stockholm Student Housing Foundation). SSSB, Small Solar-System Body ...
Making shiet up does not make it true
There are many definitions of the abbreviated initialization "SSSB", in this forum, it is used to denote Same Sex Sexual Behavior. You appear to be "Contextually Challenged".
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<quoted text>Bull shat, you stole the Vietnam vet story from Old Swift Boater. If your disabled its not due to combat, perhaps its from being a constant wanker.
I think that you have terribly debilitating issues. You should try to enlist, and see how long you last. Probably get blanket parties thrown for you from week 1.
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Mystery Texas killings 'solved': Disgraced court official to be charged with murders of Texas district attorney, his wife and assistant DA after they convicted him of theft.

Eric Williams, 46, set to be charged with three murders.

DA Mike McLelland and his wife Cynthia were killed at their Texas home last month, and ADA Mark Hasse was shot dead in January.

Authorities reportedly zeroed in on Williams after emails sent to other county officials were linked to him.

Williams had been convicted of theft by McLelland and Hasse two years ago.

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<quoted text>No it did not. The laws in Cali already existed and have not been changed. You can't make something double illegal . Gays had the right to marry, Prop 8 was to deny them that right. Its all in the legal brief all you have to do is read it. Look if people want to have more that one spouse, file a damn law suit.
The people of California voted to clarify the definition of legal marriage in 2000, as union of one man and one woman. Apparently some folks were confused so the added that definition to their constitution via vote. Yet again......

So what makes u think polygamy can't be legalized?
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I think that you have terribly debilitating issues. You should try to enlist, and see how long you last. Probably get blanket parties thrown for you from week 1.
Jizzy told a war story once. Said he's been "shot at".

Probably caught stealing some old farmers watermelons or something. Then the old coot fired in the air. Jizzy claims combat status.

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Explain that one will ya?
Probably not. I think he sees stuff on bathroom walls and regurgitates it in here. He has never been able to give any kind of detailed explanation for his slogans.
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Probably not. I think he sees stuff on bathroom walls and regurgitates it in here. He has never been able to give any kind of detailed explanation for his slogans.
I saw something on the men's room wall it said "for a good time call Jizzy".
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No. Prop 8 didn't mention space aliens marriage dummy.
It only mentioned ONE man and ONE woman marriage. Effectively banning BOTH polygamy and same sex marriage. You know it banned them EQUALLY.
Hope I simplified it enough for you, but it is a very simple concept. I'm very surprised your superoir brain cannot grasp it.
Nor did it mention Polygamy, but it also failed to mention any of the 5 sexes of Vega, or 2 of the 3 sexes of Centauris

I am with you, Same sex marriage was just a sideline effect of their working to make Poly and Space alien marriage "more illegal"

We can’t say it banned them because they were already banned, we have to use the legal term "more illegal" :D
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Just another day in California.

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Try another time waster. Is the thing to the left of the rear wheel on my dirt bike a sprocket or a cog or a gear?
Or..... is this a veggie burger or a hamburger? Soooooo....in states where SSM is legal, what pronouncement does the state make? "Husband and husband", "wife and wife", "spouses for life", "I prounounce you married",etc?
Why are they marrying?
Uhhhhh....they want to. For love, companionship, create and raise children, money, etc. DOes it matter to anyone but the two people involved as long as they're consenting adults? No state, as far as I know, requires a statment of orientation prior to issuance of a marriage license. Perhaps it should so as to prevent people marrying outside their orientation.
A gay man will, more than likely, want to marry another gay man, not some lesbian.
More than likely. Gay men don't seem to marry at the same rates as lesbians though.
You might have married your wife just to stay in the country,
Actually so she could, I was born here.....that's silly we both were but thanks for asking.
but most of us would prefer to marry a person for the sake of love.
What kind of love? Romantic? Platonic? Friendship? etc. Suppose a couple were only marrying for the sake of "like" would the state still issue a marriage license?
And a state could grant two opposite sex adult siblings a license. The state can grant any license it so chooses………….
….. As long as it complies with state laws. s
Laws can and do change, sometimes by court order. Please explain how barring an opposite sex pair of siblings from marrying based on the possiblity of sexual reproduction, should be applied to same sex siblings when no such possibility exists?
It ain’t society so much as the doors it opens for the couple.
Thanks for the honesty, appreciated it. However, there is no compelling state interest. Society can function without men marrying men/women marrying women, and has throughout the history of the republic. If marriage is nothing more than a means by which two people, or more live thier intimate personal sexual lives with government recognition and benefits, then there's no reason to deny "marriage" to a variety of consenting adult relationships.
It not so much that it matters to the state. It matters to the couple. This isn’t really as difficult as you wish to make it. I’m married. It was done in Maryland nearly two decades ago. It is recognized anywhere I go in the US.
As with my marriage, except I was married in a different state.
My nephew was married in the same state a couple years ago. It is recognised in Maryland. See the difference? Do you honestly need to be told the difference between a marriage and a state sanctioned civil union AGAIN?
Marriage is a legal, cultural, historical, traditional, conjugal, and/or relgious, union of husband and wife, recognized in all fifty states, and by the federal government, and around the world. It's creation dates back thousands of years, and is evident in some form, as a male female relationship, in virutally all human societies throughout history. A Civil union is a modern western legal relationship structure created to accomodate same sex pairings/couples. Yes, I know the difference.
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What grand fools the Republicans make of themselves!

Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW), a nonprofit government watchdog, has asked the Senate ethics committee and the Federal Bureau of Investigation to probe whether aides to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell improperly conducted political opposition research on federal government time.
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Nor did it mention Polygamy, but it also failed to mention any of the 5 sexes of Vega, or 2 of the 3 sexes of Centauris
I am with you, Same sex marriage was just a sideline effect of their working to make Poly and Space alien marriage "more illegal"
We can’t say it banned them because they were already banned, we have to use the legal term "more illegal" :D
Prop 8 prohibits polygamy.

What part of "ONE man ONE woman" don't you understand? Please answer, maybe we can get to the bottom of your refusal to admit prop 8 bans polygamy.

It's a simple concept really. One man One Woman means exactly what it says.

So lets have a quiz. Does One Man One Woman mean that 2 men and one woman can marry Big D?

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On the March 7, 2000 primary election, Proposition 22 was adopted by a vote of 61.4% to 38%, thus adding § 308.5 to the Family Code, largely replicating the 1977 enactment. The one-sentence code section explicitly defined the union of a man and a woman as the only valid or recognizable form of marriage in the State of California.

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Nor did it mention Polygamy, but it also failed to mention any of the 5 sexes of Vega, or 2 of the 3 sexes of Centauris
I am with you, Same sex marriage was just a sideline effect of their working to make Poly and Space alien marriage "more illegal"
We can’t say it banned them because they were already banned, we have to use the legal term "more illegal" :D
Did it mention Martians and Venusians? Why yes it did! Because men are from Mars, women are from Venus, and you're from Uranus!

I just couldn't resist.:)

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SSSB - Acronyms and Abbreviations - The Free Dictionary
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Acronym, Definition. SSSB, Stiftelsen Stockholms Studentbostäder (Swedish: Stockholm Student Housing Foundation). SSSB, Small Solar-System Body ...
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http://www.ejssb.org/4.html

Empirical Journal of Same-Sex Sexual Behavior

The claims and interests of those engaging in samesex sex (SS) roil Western civilization. Effective, clearheaded public policy requires sound empirical information about this behavior, including the psychology and demographics of those who practice SS, medical and public health aspects of SS, social and cultural ramifications of SS, etc. Though there are scientific journals that publish some empirical studies and reviews about human SS, no journal is solely dedicated to its empirical study. The Empirical Journal of Same-Sex Sexual Behavior (EJSSB) aims to fill this void.

EJSSB was conceptualized by Dr. Paul Cameron and Dr. George Rekers in late 2006. Both felt that a pall of censorship had descended upon academia, and an unbiased peer-reviewed journal — editorially, neither dedicated to, nor in opposition to, gay rights — was needed. A clear illustration of this censorship occurred in the on-line version of Pediatrics. When Drs. Paul and Kirk Cameron first submitted ‘Problems With Pawelski, et al’s Article on the Well-Being of Children of Homosexuals’ to Pediatrics ( aappublications.org/cgi/eletters/118/1/349 , 2006), it was published immediately and remained on the website for a couple of months. A member of the American Academy of Pediatrics submitted another critique and it too was published — briefly. Both then disappeared. After multiple attempts to get these articles reinstated — as per the claimed policy of Pediatrics — it became clear that inclusion of facts not in accord with the pro-gay rights stance of the journal (indeed, generally better facts) would not be permitted. This kind of censorship is diametrically opposed to what science and free inquiry are all about. Further, in this instance, professionals dealing with children were exposed to a one-sided, prohomosexual set of poor research. Not telling the ‘whole truth’ has consequences for any society.

Being empirical rather than theoretical, studies published in EJSSB will generally use descriptive rather than diagnostic or political language. We agree with Ludwig von Mises that:“...as long as we do not know how external facts — physical and physiological — produce in a human mind definite thoughts and volitions resulting in concrete acts, we have to face an insurmountable methodological dualism.…“Reason and experience show us two separate realms: the external world of physical, chemical, and physiological phenomena and the internal world of thought, feeling, valuation, and purposeful action....“Identical external events result sometimes in different human responses, and different external events produce sometimes the same human response. We do not know why.…“Human action is one of the agencies bringing about change. It is an element of cosmic activity and becoming. Therefore it is a legitimate object of scientific investigation. As — at least under present conditions — it cannot be traced back to its causes, it must be considered as an ultimate given and must be studied as such.”(Human Action, 1949)

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