Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,187

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188185 Apr 11, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Okay Big D put down the "cigarette". Time for your nap.
Big D is not quite ready for the Modesto comedy clubs.

I don't know if you've ever been to Modesto but I have had that unfortunate unpleasantness due of course to an evil she-woman. Screw her and her dusty little sh!thole town! Sorry. Got carried away.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#188186 Apr 11, 2013
Big D

Modesto, CA

#188187 Apr 11, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Okay Big D put down the "cigarette". Time for your nap.
Now this is America we treat all beliefs equally under the law

Xemu is just as sacred as Odin or Jesus or the Volcano

We have a smorgasbord of belief systems here
LittleFatty3

Covina, CA

#188188 Apr 11, 2013
Chinese officials described the regime in the North as behaving like a "spoiled child North Korea's Kim Jong Un."

North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, for leading his country to disaster and the world close to war.

Kim is derided as "Little Fatty" or "Fatty the Third."
Pietro Armando

Hartford, CT

#188190 Apr 11, 2013
Big D wrote:
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Now this is America we treat all beliefs equally under the law
Xemu is just as sacred as Odin or Jesus or the Volcano
We have a smorgasbord of belief systems here
Fine....we'll make "Odin's Day" a federal holiday
RepublicansSuck

Covina, CA

#188191 Apr 11, 2013
A secret recording of a campaign strategy session between U.S. Senator Mitch McConnell and his advisors was taped by leaders of thee own Tea Party gangster's.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#188192 Apr 11, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Fine....we'll make "Odin's Day" a federal holiday
Big D will fight you if you tell kids about Odin.

RepublicansSuck

Covina, CA

#188193 Apr 11, 2013
A secret recording of a campaign strategy session between U.S. Senator Mitch McConnell and his advisors was taped by leaders of there own Tea Party gangster's.

There should be a law against them all.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#188194 Apr 11, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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Fine....we'll make "Odin's Day" a federal holiday
We already have Thor's day ( Thursday ) once a week, that is as much recognition as any other religion and more than most.

we need a Xemu holiday
Anonymous

United States

#188195 Apr 11, 2013
poledancer45 wrote:
<quoted text>ouch... so i take it you don't like me // well take a number and have a seat with the other biatchs that don't and when i give a fluck i'll call your number
with love
Sparkle
If only I cared enough to do so!...too bad!

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#188196 Apr 11, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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All that, most of irrelevant, to the simple questioned I posed? Oh Madone! Why not just offer an opinion as to why, instead all that "....impacting...producti ve lives..." stuff?
You know why I won't stoop to answering the question "Why are there gay people?" It implies that there must be something wrong-a question that need answering--a great mystery to unravel.

The way I see it is if my attraction to me doesn't bother me, then why should it bother you? Why must you understand it?

Why do some guys like blondes? Why do some women like guys with blue eyes? Why do I like cabbage but not kraut? Why do I love the color red, but hate the color navy blue?

Do any of these questions require an answer for them to just be accepted?

I, personally, can't understand why guys are attracted to women. I've never experienced it. I've never even had the slightest crush on a woman. It completely baffles me. I like women. I don't hate them. But I am not attracted to them in the least.

However, I'm able to just accept that you like women and leave it at that.

You need to do the same for homosexuality. Stop asking "why". Just accept that we are the way we are.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#188197 Apr 11, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Big D will fight you if you tell kids about Odin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =Q2l4bz1FT8UXX
I wonder if kryptonite will work on him?
Klneex

Covina, CA

#188198 Apr 11, 2013
This is because most if not all Republican's are filthy wankers.

They got this McConnell recording they told me because of the tackiness and the horrible things that McConnell was discussing.... That is why I think they recorded it.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#188199 Apr 11, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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All that, most of irrelevant, to the simple questioned I posed? Oh Madone! Why not just offer an opinion as to why, instead all that "....impacting...producti ve lives..." stuff?
VV never wins a debate, he bores you to death with gay twirl pontification.

Smirk.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#188200 Apr 11, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
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Why do you bother asking these questions? I wasn’t aware that these other sexual orientations were considered disorders.
I never said they were.
You’re wandering away from the purpose of getting a marriage license.
Quite simple, its to be legally recognized as husband and wife. It also ensures that any children born into the marital relationship, unless there is evidence to the contrary, are presumed to be the husband's, the legally reconized father of the children. Presumption of paternity.
One desires to be married to the partner of their choosing and reaping the benefits of such an arrangement.
According to the state, that "partner of one's choosing" is still dicated by the state, legally that is. The state determines from what categories, one may choose, or not choose. A man may wish his brother to be his "partner of one's choosing", but the state's says "no bennies for you"! If its okay for opposite sex first cousins to marry, but not siblings because of the possibilty of sexual reproduction, why would such a prohibition be appled to same sex siblings who want to marry, or perhaps just get the bennies?

The problem is you wish to use the "partner of one's choosing" line to support SSM, but either are unwilling, or unable to see the possible ramifications from that argument.
I do believe couples who marry are more apt to stay together than couples who simply cohabitate.
It has been shown that men and women who marry tend to stay together longer than those who cohabitate.
Another question you need not ask. The answer should be obvious. Legal contract, yes. Religious, maybe but not necessarily. Nationwide recognition so the legal aspects are uniform across the country.
Each state determines its marriage laws. States do not have to honor licenses granted by other states. For example a license to practice law, or carry a firearm.
Yup, or husband and husband or wife and wife.
Except, at least legally in 32 plus states, and most countries. Of those states that have legal SSM, does the state actually pronounce the SSC, "husband and husband", or "wife and wife"?
He’s gay, that makes it a lie
Makes what a "lie"? So if a self identified gay man marries a woman, or a self identified lesbian marries a man, they're both lying? Even if both parties are aware? I wonder if Mr & Mrs. Josh Weed know?
Which state? Mine, yours, someone else’s?
Here's what I wrote:

A state could grant two same sex adult siblings a license too. The state can grant any license it so chooses.
What matters is that they have the desire to marry. Because they want to make a life long commitment to each other.
Again so what? Why does it matter, to the state/society that two men/women wish to make a commitment to each other? Why does it matter that the state call a personal intimate sexual relationship between two men/women "marriage"? As oppossed to a civil union? Or even recognizing it at all.
Animal behavior. In several species a new male may enter a social group and if he’s big enough and bad enough he kills off the previous dominant male and all of his offspring, making room for his own. Cats are a prime example. At one time in our development it is likely that something similar was rather commonplace. But we’ve advanced continuously to the point we’ve reached today and will continue to advance. Most of us don’t think conquering a village and enslaving the survivors & taking the women as mating partners is okay. I hope.
Did this happen a often in American history? If so when and where? Pre colonial times? Colonial times? Post?

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#188201 Apr 11, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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You know why I won't stoop to answering the question "Why are there gay people?" It implies that there must be something wrong-a question that need answering--a great mystery to unravel.
The way I see it is if my attraction to me doesn't bother me, then why should it bother you? Why must you understand it?
Why do some guys like blondes? Why do some women like guys with blue eyes? Why do I like cabbage but not kraut? Why do I love the color red, but hate the color navy blue?
Do any of these questions require an answer for them to just be accepted?
I, personally, can't understand why guys are attracted to women. I've never experienced it. I've never even had the slightest crush on a woman. It completely baffles me. I like women. I don't hate them. But I am not attracted to them in the least.
However, I'm able to just accept that you like women and leave it at that.
You need to do the same for homosexuality. Stop asking "why". Just accept that we are the way we are.
Hence the difference between marriage and ss couples.

Smile.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#188202 Apr 11, 2013
Big D wrote:
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We already have Thor's day ( Thursday ) once a week, that is as much recognition as any other religion and more than most.
we need a Xemu holiday
Thor's day/Thursday if a federal holiday? Is Christ mass a federal holiday? Just curious.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#188203 Apr 11, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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You know why I won't stoop to answering the question "Why are there gay people?"
Uhhhhhhh.....I didn't ask that.
It implies that there must be something wrong-a question that need answering--a great mystery to unravel.
Did I say it was wrong? Just puzzling, that's all. Why is a woman who is sexually attracted to a women, attracted to a woman who has the appearence of, and mannerisms of a man, if she is not sexually attracted to men? I suppose the same question could be posed of gay men. No implication of wrong, or disrespect.

There was a show called "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy", but no corresponding female version, like a "Butch Pal for the Straight Gal".......Oh boy...now you're gonna get all mad and say something about a "how people live their lives" or something like that.
The way I see it is if my attraction to me doesn't bother me, then why should it bother you? Why must you understand it?
Easy there VeeVee....it doesn't bother me. Are we not trying to understand each other, for straight people to understand and accept gay people? My wife and I were friends with a lesbian couple years ago, and I can tell you one of the women clearly had some masculine mannerisms, and thought processes. She had been with men, and even stated she liked "a sausage now and then". But there no mistaking she prefers innies to outies.
Why do some guys like blondes? Why do some women like guys with blue eyes? Why do I like cabbage but not kraut? Why do I love the color red, but hate the color navy blue?
Theses are minor chacteristics. Not apparent contradictions.
Do any of these questions require an answer for them to just be accepted?
There ya go again. They're just questions, no requirement necessary.
I, personally, can't understand why guys are attracted to women. I've never experienced it. I've never even had the slightest crush on a woman. It completely baffles me. I like women. I don't hate them. But I am not attracted to them in the least.
Never? Not even a crush on a teacher in school as grade school student?
However, I'm able to just accept that you like women and leave it at that.
Okaaaaaaaay....so you never asked male friends, relatives, coworkers, etc., of the straight persuation why they like women, or what is it about women that they like?
You need to do the same for homosexuality. Stop asking "why". Just accept that we are the way we are.
Easy now...you're taking this way too serious. Homosexuality is what it is, that is acceptance, or perhaps part of it.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#188204 Apr 11, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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VV never wins a debate, he bores you to death with gay twirl pontification.
Smirk.
They're just questions, no disrespect intended. Its a simple "why'. Why does the one woman of the lesbian couple wear a tuxedo on their wedding day? Do gay men wear wedding dresses? Maybe just Dennis Rodman.:)

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#188205 Apr 11, 2013
Equality 4 all

http://www.unmarriedamerica.org/column-one/09...

Joyce and Sybil Burden keep pressing their case for equal rights.

The sisters, both in their eighties, feel they should be exempt from inheritance tax when once of them dies -- just like married couples and registered same-sex partners are under British law.

Joyce and Sybil never married. They jointly own the family home they have lived in all of their lives.

When one of them dies, the government will impose a hefty inheritance tax on the survivor. The tax is so substantial that it might force the survivor to sell the home in order to raise the necessary funds.

The British government provides no method for siblings to gain a tax exemption, no matter how interdependent they are or how long they have lived together. Close relatives are prohibited from entering into a civil partnership or marriage.

The sisters wrote to the British Chancellor before every Budget since 1976 asking for exemption for family members from inheritance tax.

Two years ago, Joyce and Sybil also wrote to the European Court of Human Rights. They were surprised when the court agreed to hear their case.

The sisters found a lawyer to represent them. He argued that the tax is discriminatory and violates the sisters' rights under the Human Rights Convention of the European Union.

After all, he pointed out, a surviving party in a marriage or a civil partnership would pay no tax at all. In contrast, Joyce or Sybil might have to sell their home in order to pay the tax after one of them dies.

Last year, a divided panel of judges ruled against them in a 4 to 3 vote.

Reacting to the court's decision, Joyce Burden told a British newspaper, "If we were lesbians, we would have all the rights in the world. But we are sisters, and it seems we have no rights at all."

So the sisters filed an appeal, asking for a rehearing by the court's Grand Chamber. A panel of 17 judges, from 17 different nations, heard the case on September 12. A decision may be handed down as early as December.

The lawyer representing the Burden sisters argued that the Civil Partnership Act of 2004 infringes on their right to own property and their right to be free from discrimination under the region's Human Rights Convention. Their relationship is more solid and longer lasting than most same-sex partnerships and yet, solely because they are blood related, the sisters are prevented from registering as civil partners.

An attempt to extend the exemption to close relatives who had lived together as adults for at least 12 years was overturned by the House of Commons when the Civil Partnership Bill was in debate.

The sisters are understandably angry. Joyce told a British newspaper that she would rather burn down the house than to have to sell it to pay taxes to the British government.

"They have taxed us all our lives," Joyce added, "and we have never claimed any benefits, apart from our pensions which we paid into."

Sybil also had a few choice words to say.

"We are looked down upon for being single," she told The Times. "We just want to be treated as equal citizens and given the rights we deserve."

Sybil pointed out that she and Joyce "saved the Government thousands by caring for our elderly sick relatives till they passed away and have never claimed a penny apart from the pension."

If they lose their case before the 17-member court, the battle will turn from legal to political.

"The whole issue of inheritance tax needs to be revisited so that relationships outside of marriage or civil partnership are recognized," said Neil Parish, a conservative member of Parliament. "Inheritance tax should only apply if property is passed down from one generation to the next, not between the same generation.

"Sybil and Joyce Burden deserve to have their 80 year partnership as sisters recognized by the law," he added. "I will lobby the government to change this grossly unfair law."



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