Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,822

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#187919 Apr 9, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Same-gender marriage is nothing new either. Couples have been trying to have their marriages legalized for over 40 years.
And I'm sure that when interracial marriage started here in the U.S. it was considered unthinkable to the vast majority of citizens--just like you think same-gender marriage is unthinkable.
Now we don't even give interracial marriages a second thought.
Marriage laws have evolved in this country. There is no denying that.
At one time it in the U.S. was legal for people to marry as young as 12 years old. And in some parts of the developing world, that's still possible.
You guys seem to think that marriage has been static and unchanging for thousands of years. But you know that isn't the case.
Whether it's been between one man and one woman, one man and multiple women, one woman and multiple men, a man and a man, a woman and a woman, one man (or woman) and deceased people (look up "ghost marriages"), arranged marriages--the fact of the matter is that marriage has looked very different over time and throughout the different cultures on this planet.
That we are evolving marriage to include same-gender couples is just another example of the changes in the definition of marriage.
40 years? You are wwwaaaayyy short VV!

ss couples have clearly covertly existed since human history began. However, for some reason, not a single culture ever accepted them from start to finish. No where did calling ss couples 'married' pop up, establish itself and spread.

The other examples you list? Been around and practiced in many places.

Quite an astounding difference.

Smirk.

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#187920 Apr 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Moses was married to a black woman. Pretty ancient Hebrew culture...
Smile.
Apparently never heard of the Lemba. They're cohenim! lol

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#187921 Apr 9, 2013
Big D wrote:
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It doesnít ultimately matter what SCOTUS does, if they do the right thing and prop 8 is overturned... it is over
If they do the wrong thing and Prop 8 is upheld, we easily pass a ballot measure overturning Prop 8 wiht the majority of voters in California supporting same sex marriage.. and it is over
It is going down the toilet one way or the other... only a matter of time now.
What it won't change is this;

They can't be married. It is impossible.
It is visibly obvious they are only ever a senselessly duplicated half of marriage. A desecration of sacred design. A barren imposter relationship that is always a devastating deprivation of family imposed on a child for the sake of an illusion. A violent imitation of sexual intimacy.
There is nothing, at any level that equates a ss couple to marriage.

If you call the tail on a dog a leg, what is it?

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#187922 Apr 9, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Those who are fighting for same-gender marriage recognition have drawn the line at just that. To my knowledge, no major group in the LGBT community is promoting plural marriage. And I'm 100% certain that no one is promoting incest.
That is where we in the LGBT community are drawing the line.
Problem is, when you draw the definition that low, anyone can qualify.

You pretend that isn't important, but only one thing is important to you.

Smile.
Anonymous

United States

#187923 Apr 9, 2013
poledancer45 wrote:
me and my freind are drunk lol/... so hi people
Be carefull with that heavy lifting, you don't want to do anything you may regret in the morning. Oh wait... there's nothing you won't regret, you don't set the bar high enough to ever be dissappointed with what you do! Yug,yug,yug,yug,yug:)LOL

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#187924 Apr 9, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I have no desire to
You contradict yourself.

Your desire for 'legal' definition, by your own admission redefines it for everyone.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#187925 Apr 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I don't argue faith with faithless people. Hence the scientific disqualification of ss couples; At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.
But since you brought up one of my vocations, Jesus offers marriage or abstinence;
Matthew 19:4-12 (NJB)
really wrote:
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You know nothing of my faith...I am just taking you to task for yours. You can not demand all live by one part of the Bible when you so clearly disregard the most important message in it. That makes you a hypocrite!
Why are you not a eunuch? You by your own definition do not qualify for marriage. Shouldn't you have chosen the life of a eunuch? Or is that just another one of your many lies?
You don't know my faith.

I simply pointed out a clear scientific fact and a clear Biblical quote by Jesus Christ describing marriage and disqualifying ss couples.

You have nothing but gay troll attacks.

Smile.
momentarynow

Chico, CA

#187926 Apr 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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40 years? You are wwwaaaayyy short VV!
ss couples have clearly covertly existed since human history began. However, for some reason, not a single culture ever accepted them from start to finish. No where did calling ss couples 'married' pop up, establish itself and spread.
The other examples you list? Been around and practiced in many places.
Quite an astounding difference.
Smirk.
Grin

Thing's change and right now

We're all becoming

One

Grin

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#187927 Apr 9, 2013
snyper wrote:
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Apparently never heard of the Lemba. They're cohenim! lol
Says who?

What does that have to do with Moses being married to a black woman destroying another one of VV's lies?

Smile.
really

AOL

#187928 Apr 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
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You don't know my faith.
I simply pointed out a clear scientific fact and a clear Biblical quote by Jesus Christ describing marriage and disqualifying ss couples.
You have nothing but gay troll attacks.
Smile.
What are your attacks called...biblical troll attacks? Do you ever answer the questions you are asked? Twirl twirl twirl!

Smirk

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Milwaukee

#187929 Apr 9, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>All the technological advances doesn't change the facts of life, and biology. Its quite simple actually.
What does biology have to do with it. I've seen male dogs hump other male dogs so don't say it's abnormal. It happens with many species

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#187930 Apr 9, 2013
really wrote:
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What are your attacks called...biblical troll attacks? Do you ever answer the questions you are asked? Twirl twirl twirl!
Smirk
Quoting Jesus is a troll attack?

Silly stupid.

Smirk.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#187931 Apr 9, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
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What does biology have to do with it. I've seen male dogs hump other male dogs so don't say it's abnormal. It happens with many species
They eat and roll in shit too. Oh wait, you are saying gays do that too.

Smirk.

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#187932 Apr 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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They eat and roll in shit too. Oh wait, you are saying gays do that too.
Smirk.
Ouch! Point, and counter point.

“Vita e' Bella.”

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#187933 Apr 9, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
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What does biology have to do with it. I've seen male dogs hump other male dogs so don't say it's abnormal. It happens with many species
Dogs? Are u implying gay men are like dogs humping each other? So one would be the humper, the other, the humpee? One dominant, one submissive?

This what I wrote:
All the technological advances doesn't change the facts of life, and biology. Its quite simple actually.

So Dad never had "the talk" with you, is that why you're confused?

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#187934 Apr 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Moses was married to a black woman. Pretty ancient Hebrew culture...
Smile.
Moses was married to a Hebrew... Are you saying that Moses was a lily white Caucasian? I'll bet you have a blonde haired, blue eyed painting of Jesus somewhere in your house.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#187935 Apr 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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You contradict yourself.
Your desire for 'legal' definition, by your own admission redefines it for everyone.
no

I am not for telling you that you have to believe one thing or another, I am for telling you that you donít have the right to tell others what to believe

You can not accept same sex marriage all your life and it wont bother me or anyone else one tiny little bit as you are not that important, as long as our government treats all people the same under the rule of law.

You are telling others what they can and cannot do.. not I

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#187936 Apr 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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They eat and roll in shit too. Oh wait, you are saying gays do that too.
Smirk.
Heterosexuals eat and roll in shit when they hit the back-door. I love how you always think that gays have the market cornered on certain types of sex.

That your mind is races to anal sex says SO MUCH about you.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#187937 Apr 9, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Problem is, when you draw the definition that low, anyone can qualify.
You pretend that isn't important, but only one thing is important to you.
Smile.
Show me where any attorney who fought against Prop. 8 or DOMA is arguing in favor of incestuous or plural marriage.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187938 Apr 9, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
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Moses was married to a Hebrew... Are you saying that Moses was a lily white Caucasian? I'll bet you have a blonde haired, blue eyed painting of Jesus somewhere in your house.
Yes. Moses a white guy. Looked like Charlton Heston.

Jesus was a good looking white guy with long hair and a beard looked kind of like Brad Pitt.

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