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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201862 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Since: Mar 09

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#187847 Apr 9, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
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The line has already been drawn by the gay rights lobby, and its right at their feet, with traditional marriage on their side of the line, and the rest of the perverted concepts of marriage on the other. Don't question them or challenge them because they are the ones that have the self appointed authority to dictate to the rest of us what we can and cannot believe. You must accept their argument, because it's their argument, and they are always right. Just ask them.
You're free to think gay couples shouldn't be married. Just like the Klan is free to think blacks are inferior. But someday you'll have to accept that they can marry legally in this country, just like the dullards in the Klan have to accept that the average person, black or white, is bound to possess a superior intellect compared to the average Klan member.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187848 Apr 9, 2013
Big D wrote:
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You are calling yourself a hypocrite
You arenít out getting signatures
You arenít out protesting with signs
You claim to support it, but you donít actively support it
so answer you own question, why are you such a hypocrite?
You're a riot Big D. So dramatic!

Since: Mar 09

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#187849 Apr 9, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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You are a trip! You compared all those situations to redefining marriage. Lame dodge, but ya didn't answer the question. Why is there a sudden need now to call a personal intimate same sex, male or female, sexual relationship, "marriage"? How the heck did our republic survive into the 21st century with the quaint notion that marriage is an exclusive monogamous relationship of husband and wife? Did men suddenly become pregnant? Women impregnating other women with sperm their own bodies produced?
It is because the human race has come to realise that homosexuality isn't a mental disorder or a disease (note that a lot of people still think it is) and that as living social beings they're entitled to find a partner for life. Marriage celebrates this accomplishment.

All those things (slavery, religious persecution, etc.) are pertinent for comparison because they represent the same type of social progress. Sorting out authentic right from genuine wrong.

Since: Mar 09

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#187850 Apr 9, 2013
Big D wrote:
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The ace you have up your sleeve is exactly what you mentioned, it harms no one, affects no one in a detrimental way.
It certainly gets some people's knickers in a twist! I suppose that is the harm that Brian_G keeps blathering on about.

Since: Mar 09

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#187851 Apr 9, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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The norms of the times are decided by the people of the times.
You got that right! Ya might want to brace yourself for a few changes in the future.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#187852 Apr 9, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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You're a riot Big D. So dramatic!
answer the question you asked

You are calling other people, that act like you do a hypocrite

so... why are you a hypocrite?

You claim to support it, but you are not willing to get signatures, you donít make donations, you donít work for the cause.. why are you being a hypocrite... according to you.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#187853 Apr 9, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
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It certainly gets some people's knickers in a twist! I suppose that is the harm that Brian_G keeps blathering on about.
The shocker for them is just how much I and the rest of America donít care that their knickers are in a twist.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#187854 Apr 9, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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For the nth time, I don't want to wheel out and get signatures or carry signs (is that what you're doing today?), I simply wish to discuss marriage equality.
so you are the hypocrite that you are calling others because they are not doing that.

It is nice that it isnít me calling you a hypocrite, but you calling yourself one.

There is something we can agree on :)
Big D

Modesto, CA

#187855 Apr 9, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
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So let's go all Californication, at let it all hang out.
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The norms of the times are decided by the people of the times.
Yes

and the times now are clearly deciding same sex marriage is normal.

What the future will decide on your other concerns are up to them
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187856 Apr 9, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
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It certainly gets some people's knickers in a twist! I suppose that is the harm that Brian_G keeps blathering on about.
Yes. It engenders emotions. For example it makes Big D get all puffed up and climb the mountain to pontificate to us dummies down below.
No Speak

Covina, CA

#187857 Apr 9, 2013
Never mind it appears I'm dealing with a bunch fanatical North-Korean's.

China better get it's fat as in gear and stop it's little step-child bas rd cousins before they give each other black eyes.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#187858 Apr 9, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Yes. It engenders emotions. For example it makes Big D get all puffed up and climb the mountain to pontificate to us dummies down below.
It does put me in danger of a heart attack from laughing my behind off and the way people twist and turn trying to find any thread to hang onto to try and stop same sex marriage.

You have the trophy so far though, calling people a hypocrite for not actively supporting something you claim to support, although you donít actively support it either and act exactly the same as those you call a hypocrite

It is hilarious how you have to tie yourself in a pretzel trying to get someone... anyone to change their views, and you fail miserably

Personally I donít need anyone to change their views, I already have the majority of Americans on our side.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187859 Apr 9, 2013
Big D wrote:
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answer the question you asked
You are calling other people, that act like you do a hypocrite
so... why are you a hypocrite?
You claim to support it, but you are not willing to get signatures, you donít make donations, you donít work for the cause.. why are you being a hypocrite... according to you.
Don't be so silly. Are you doing those things? Really?

And can I not discuss my support for something without actively doing those things? Why not?

As if I have to ask your permission. You are a real piece of work!

Too funny!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187860 Apr 9, 2013
Big D wrote:
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so you are the hypocrite that you are calling others because they are not doing that.
It is nice that it isnít me calling you a hypocrite, but you calling yourself one.
There is something we can agree on :)
When did I "call out others who are not doing that"? Don't start lying again Mighty D.

I can discuss marriage equality without going out and gathering signatures etc. That's what this forum is for dummy!

I submit that your real problem is you have no argument against mine and it frustrates you.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187861 Apr 9, 2013
Big D wrote:
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The shocker for them is just how much I and the rest of America donít care that their knickers are in a twist.
Sure.
Trench coats

Covina, CA

#187862 Apr 9, 2013
I noticed that Loud mouthed D. Tedford didn't put his foot in his fat mouth with an editorial's about how great his running buddy Steve Herfert was and all the Racist comments he made during a public West Covina, California City Council meeting in 2013.

But has anyone has been taking notice of, George Ogden has kept his big fat racist mouth shut as of late, there are NO article or letters from the public being allowed in the SGVExaminer.com anymore.

Must be a lot of hate letters piling up on George Ogden's desk or shopping cart parked in front of his West Covina, Ca. driveway.

Event he SGVTribune.com n has had to shut down the letters being sent in concerning the Racists comments Steve Herfert made during a Februarys 05, 2013 west Covina city council meeting.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

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#187863 Apr 9, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
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It is because the human race has come to realise that homosexuality isn't a mental disorder or a disease (note that a lot of people still think it is)
Okaaaaaaay...so what? There's also bisexuality, pansexuality, etc.
and that as living social beings they're entitled to find a partner for life.
"Entitled"? No one need gov't sanction to "find a partner for life".
Marriage celebrates this accomplishment.
Marriage acknowledges the union of husband and wife, which the state recognizes and privelges.
All those things (slavery, religious persecution, etc.) are pertinent for comparison because they represent the same type of social progress. Sorting out authentic right from genuine wrong.
Social progress doesn't change the facts of life, and biology, nor the state's interest in marriage as a union of husband and wife. We don't put urinals in the women's locker room in the name of "social progress". Some things just don't proh gross.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187864 Apr 9, 2013
Big D wrote:
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It does put me in danger of a heart attack from laughing my behind off and the way people twist and turn trying to find any thread to hang onto to try and stop same sex marriage.
You have the trophy so far though, calling people a hypocrite for not actively supporting something you claim to support, although you donít actively support it either and act exactly the same as those you call a hypocrite
It is hilarious how you have to tie yourself in a pretzel trying to get someone... anyone to change their views, and you fail miserably
Personally I donít need anyone to change their views, I already have the majority of Americans on our side.
You're lying again.

Try and relax. This is a discussion forum. You are not discussing, you are dictating, accusing and lying.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#187865 Apr 9, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Sorry. It is some o=polyamorists' fight. You don't get to dismiss it just like people against SSM don't get to dismiss your fight.
When I think of people who support SSM but not poly marriage, the first thing that comes to mind is "hypocrite". But perhaps you have a valid reason to deny marriage equality that I haven't heard yet?
so... you are saying that he is a hypocrite because he is not out fighting for poly marriage, he is not out getting signatures and putting signs on his lawn like you do.

Or... oh yeah... you donít either

so the first thing that comes to mind when you think about people that act like you do is... "hypocrite"

if you forget again I can post it again for you, I forgot that you donít like to ever look at previous posts and cannot even remember what you said a page or so ago.
Anonymous

United States

#187866 Apr 9, 2013
Cat Purrs wrote:
<quoted text> Well if it isn't Spankie Frankie. What's the matter, did you get kicked out of the Cafe again?
Are you one of those lonely, creepy ladies that has like 50 cats. You know the ones that stink like ammonia cause they never clean the litter box and they just let the cats sh!t and p!ss all over the house? Yeah I think you are, here's some advice, replace all of your filthy cats with a dog! Or maybe clean yourself up and brush the rats nest out of your hair and go find a man! If one will have you!

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