Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,387

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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sparkle

United States

#187725 Apr 8, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>LOL:) nicotine
not so smart is ya
Pietro Armando

Windsor, CT

#187726 Apr 8, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
To them, marriage is all about sex
It sure isn’t to me... she means a lot more to me than that.
The more I think about it their marriages are a lot more fragile if sex is all it is about for them.
sad
Its the reason marriage exists in the first place. There are two sexes, that have sex, and babies are conceived. Otherwise, why would it mattered who married who, or didn't marry who. Why bar blood relatives from marrying? Beeeeeeeeecuz they might have SEX, and a baby might result.

If SSSB is acceptable, SSM is legal, same sex first cousins can marry (in a state where both SSM and FCM is legal), why then should same sex siblings be prohibited from marrying?

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#187727 Apr 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
For all the gay twirl, the fact remains that Judaism understood homosexual sex to be an abomination all through history.
Which happens to agree with medical science; Anal sex is inherently harmful, unhealthy and demeaning.
Smile.
Isn't it funny how a "harmful, unhealthy, and demeaning" behavior has managed to remain for eons? You'd think that we'd be gone by now. But here we are. What's up with that?
really

AOL

#187728 Apr 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Hasn't been a problem.
If it is, it makes more sense to take them away, then to add a relationship that never qualifies, doesn't it.
Smile.
Who says it never qualifies? YOU??? Your book??? For a man of God you sure pick and choose what you want to believe from that book, don't you? What do you think God thinks of your deceit, anger, hatred and bitterness posted here daily? How many minds do you think you have changed posting here? How many people have you drawn closer to God? I will tell you, NONE! What is your intent? What do you wish to accomplish? Marriage equality will happen, your whining about it is not going to stop anything.

Why don't you go pray about it...

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#187729 Apr 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
SCOTUS did no such thing.
Interracial marriages are as old as human history.
It certainly wasn't legal in the ancient Hebrew culture. And it certainly wasn't legal from colonial days through 1967 in this territory.
Sparkle

Seattle, WA

#187730 Apr 8, 2013
yea sure wrote:
did anybody notice that the mainstream press has not said a single WORD about this case ?
----they dont want us to know about it ----
The case of a same-sex Connecticut couple accused of repeatedly raping and abusing two of their nine adopted boys is headed for trial.
Married couple George Harasz and Douglas Wirth of Glastonbury were supposed to be sentenced Friday in Hartford Superior Court under a plea deal, but instead withdrew from their agreement with prosecutors. The men had already pleaded no contest in January to one felony count each of risk of injury to a minor — a reduction from even more serious charges related to sexual assault.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/gay-con...
Maybe because there are thousands of hetero child molestation cases everyday... dumbazz jizzhead
Sparkle

Seattle, WA

#187731 Apr 8, 2013
yea sure wrote:
did anybody notice that the mainstream press has not said a single WORD about this case ?
----they dont want us to know about it ----
The case of a same-sex Connecticut couple accused of repeatedly raping and abusing two of their nine adopted boys is headed for trial.
Married couple George Harasz and Douglas Wirth of Glastonbury were supposed to be sentenced Friday in Hartford Superior Court under a plea deal, but instead withdrew from their agreement with prosecutors. The men had already pleaded no contest in January to one felony count each of risk of injury to a minor — a reduction from even more serious charges related to sexual assault.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/gay-con...
do you really want me to start cutting and pasting all the hetero guys who molest little girls.... Do you wanna play
Sparkle

Seattle, WA

#187732 Apr 8, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
SCOTUS did no such thing.
Interracial marriages are as old as human history.
so are same sex marriages... google it dumbazz
Sparkle

Seattle, WA

#187733 Apr 8, 2013
yea sure wrote:
did anybody notice that the mainstream press has not said a single WORD about this case ?
----they dont want us to know about it ----
The case of a same-sex Connecticut couple accused of repeatedly raping and abusing two of their nine adopted boys is headed for trial.
Married couple George Harasz and Douglas Wirth of Glastonbury were supposed to be sentenced Friday in Hartford Superior Court under a plea deal, but instead withdrew from their agreement with prosecutors. The men had already pleaded no contest in January to one felony count each of risk of injury to a minor — a reduction from even more serious charges related to sexual assault.
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/gay-con...
oh look heres one now

"Wisconsin Stepmother Pleads Guilty In Starved, Tortured Stepdaughter Case"

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#187734 Apr 8, 2013
heartandmind wrote:
<quoted text>
so, if marriage IS about sex....then everytime we see a married couple, we're supposed to visualize them having sex? is that it? is that what you do?
or, if marriage is about sex, then perhaps is a public declaration of one's sexuality - what one prefers.
Orrrrrrrrr...."there's an opposite couple, my mom and dad are/were an opposite sex couple, and they had sex and made me"
i don't know about you, but my relationship with my partner / spouse isn't all about sex. there's far more to our relationship than a physical act can express.
I don't know about u, but if my mom and dad hadn't had sex, I wouldn't be here.
if sex is all i wanted i wouldn't be in stable, long term and monogomous relationship.
If no one wanted sex, would marriage exist?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#187735 Apr 8, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
It certainly wasn't legal in the ancient Hebrew culture. And it certainly wasn't legal from colonial days through 1967 in this territory.
But it was in other parts of the U.S.

'A superior colored man ... and a Scotch woman': interracial marriages in New York City, 1850-1870.
When interviewed by a pension official in 1893, Ellen Davis stated that she was fifty-nine years old, employed as a washerwoman, and that she was born in Scotland. The widow spoke affectionately of her husband John Davis, a veteran of Company G of the 26th United States Colored Infantry who had passed away in 1887 at the age of seventy. The two had married at their home in Brooklyn in 1879 and settled down to raise Ellen's three children from her previous marriage. She recalled, "I had three children by my first husband [.H]is name was James Ronald [and] he was a Scotsman. I married him in Chanden, Scotland in 1859. We went to Australia within two weeks after we were married.... and lived on a sheep farm.... I lived there two years when his health began to fail and we moved back to Scotland." Her husband died soon thereafter and Ellen Davis moved to New York City in 1874 to stay with her cousin. Three years later, she met John Davis who worked as a sawyer in a mill. The Davis couple was well-liked in their neighborhood. According to a local official, "He was a superior colored man, a sawyer by trade, and was considered an honest and truthful man....[she] is a Scotch woman [who] speaks with a strong Scotch accent [and] appears to [be] honest and truthful." (1)
The marriage of John and Ellen Davis was one between a white woman and an African-American man, a Scottish immigrant and a native New Yorker, and two working class laborers. While one might assume that such relationships were rare in the nineteenth century, a close examination of United States Manuscript Census Records in New York City for 1850, 1860, and 1870 indicates that such interracial, cross-cultural marriages constituted five to seven percent of married couples living in predominantly black neighborhoods. The number of interracial marriages varied over the twenty year period under investigation but skyrocketed following the Civil War. Census records indicate that there were 29 interracial marriages in 1850, 19 in 1860, and 116 in 1870. The vast majority of such relationships occurred between black men and white women often between an African-American male born in the United States and a woman who had immigrated from Europe, most of whom were Irish, Scottish, or English.(2) While mixed-race couples in different regions and in different eras faced tremendous resistance, such couples were not uncommon in mid-nineteenth-century New York City. Interracial couples often married in black churches in New York, worked in the city, sent their children to local African schools, and successfully interacted with government institutions, including pension officials, local court representatives, and census takers.
This article examines why such interracial relationships were not unusual to New York City from 1850 to 1870.
Old Time Surfer

Whittier, CA

#187736 Apr 8, 2013
I don't care what people do behind closed doors. I can not understand how a Judge can over rule what we voted for. I know I can't see how a moron would change a voted law and passed can in his or her mind override law. So they can't be law abiding folks when they go willy nilly and do what a minority wants.

My mind can't understand how they can't abide in what we as a people voted on. It hurts to know we have people taking things that are right and just doing what ever suites them.

I have family members more them one living a homosexual, do I love them without a dough I love them the same as the rest. They know I can't approved in the life style. And they also in the same way they love me as well. There is not one thing I would anything for any my family THEIR IS NO DEFERENCE IN MY EYES. But they also know the word of GOD never ever changes. I was a enemy of GOD as well.
Sparkle

Seattle, WA

#187739 Apr 8, 2013
Old Time Surfer wrote:
I don't care what people do behind closed doors. I can not understand how a Judge can over rule what we voted for. I know I can't see how a moron would change a voted law and passed can in his or her mind override law. So they can't be law abiding folks when they go willy nilly and do what a minority wants.
My mind can't understand how they can't abide in what we as a people voted on. It hurts to know we have people taking things that are right and just doing what ever suites them.
I have family members more them one living a homosexual, do I love them without a dough I love them the same as the rest. They know I can't approved in the life style. And they also in the same way they love me as well. There is not one thing I would anything for any my family THEIR IS NO DEFERENCE IN MY EYES. But they also know the word of GOD never ever changes. I was a enemy of GOD as well.
Well there olde dude... to begin with the constitution was written to protect minorities from the tieriny of a majority and you just don't vote away a persons civil rights... Number two no one gives a fluck about your god or his 2000 year old comic book and we don't pass laws based on a mythical superstition... I'm sorry your an old bigot... but that is your choice and we don't give you SPECIAL RIGHTS to impose your hate on others... Thanks for playing... you will find a concellation prize at the door on the right as you leave
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187740 Apr 8, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Oh buddy, you are way wrong.
That picture he sent wasn't really his tits Jizzy, you big dope.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187741 Apr 8, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>Not hardly, very much perky. Nice pink nipples.
Thanks Jizzy!
Anonymous

Richmond, VA

#187742 Apr 8, 2013
Sparkle wrote:
<quoted text>do you really want me to start cutting and pasting all the hetero guys who molest little girls.... Do you wanna play
Well of course a gay guy isn't going to molest a little girl! So hateful against the heteros aren't you, your name to me is no longer lilith or sparkle or pole dancer. From now on you are to go by the name Jeffrey Domer!

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#187743 Apr 8, 2013
really wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do those married couples that don't have children get the same benefits?
[QUOTE]

Why not? Why is this an issue now?

[QUOTE]
Should they be taken away?
On what grounds? Are they still husband and wife? If yes, they keep the benefits.
Sparkle

Seattle, WA

#187744 Apr 8, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>Well of course a gay guy isn't going to molest a little girl! So hateful against the heteros aren't you, your name to me is no longer lilith or sparkle or pole dancer. From now on you are to go by the name Jeffrey Domer!
ooooh ok marlboro man

Since: May 09

New York, NY

#187745 Apr 8, 2013
Old Time Surfer wrote:
I don't care what people do behind closed doors. I can not understand how a Judge can over rule what we voted for. I know I can't see how a moron would change a voted law and passed can in his or her mind override law. So they can't be law abiding folks when they go willy nilly and do what a minority wants.
My mind can't understand how they can't abide in what we as a people voted on. It hurts to know we have people taking things that are right and just doing what ever suites them.
I have family members more them one living a homosexual, do I love them without a dough I love them the same as the rest. They know I can't approved in the life style. And they also in the same way they love me as well. There is not one thing I would anything for any my family THEIR IS NO DEFERENCE IN MY EYES. But they also know the word of GOD never ever changes. I was a enemy of GOD as well.
So what you are basically saying is that you have to think what your imaginary friend dictates to you..........wow..........

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#187746 Apr 8, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
But it was in other parts of the U.S.
'A superior colored man ... and a Scotch woman': interracial marriages in New York City, 1850-1870.
When interviewed by a pension official in 1893, Ellen Davis stated that she was fifty-nine years old, employed as a washerwoman, and that she was born in Scotland. The widow spoke affectionately of her husband John Davis, a veteran of Company G of the 26th United States Colored Infantry who had passed away in 1887 at the age of seventy. The two had married at their home in Brooklyn in 1879 and settled down to raise Ellen's three children from her previous marriage. She recalled, "I had three children by my first husband [.H]is name was James Ronald [and] he was a Scotsman. I married him in Chanden, Scotland in 1859. We went to Australia within two weeks after we were married.... and lived on a sheep farm.... I lived there two years when his health began to fail and we moved back to Scotland." Her husband died soon thereafter and Ellen Davis moved to New York City in 1874 to stay with her cousin. Three years later, she met John Davis who worked as a sawyer in a mill. The Davis couple was well-liked in their neighborhood. According to a local official, "He was a superior colored man, a sawyer by trade, and was considered an honest and truthful man....[she] is a Scotch woman [who] speaks with a strong Scotch accent [and] appears to [be] honest and truthful." (1)
The marriage of John and Ellen Davis was one between a white woman and an African-American man, a Scottish immigrant and a native New Yorker, and two working class laborers. While one might assume that such relationships were rare in the nineteenth century, a close examination of United States Manuscript Census Records in New York City for 1850, 1860, and 1870 indicates that such interracial, cross-cultural marriages constituted five to seven percent of married couples living in predominantly black neighborhoods. The number of interracial marriages varied over the twenty year period under investigation but skyrocketed following the Civil War. Census records indicate that there were 29 interracial marriages in 1850, 19 in 1860, and 116 in 1870. The vast majority of such relationships occurred between black men and white women often between an African-American male born in the United States and a woman who had immigrated from Europe, most of whom were Irish, Scottish, or English.(2) While mixed-race couples in different regions and in different eras faced tremendous resistance, such couples were not uncommon in mid-nineteenth-century New York City. Interracial couples often married in black churches in New York, worked in the city, sent their children to local African schools, and successfully interacted with government institutions, including pension officials, local court representatives, and census takers.
This article examines why such interracial relationships were not unusual to New York City from 1850 to 1870.
So, what you're saying is that it was legal in some states, but not recognized in others? Hmmmm... That sounds vaguely familiar.

And I'm guessing that the happy couples you talked about didn't honeymoon in Mississippi.

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