I would have to say I admired Mary when she was much younger, but was a terrible queen.<quoted text>
Thank you for clarifying, they are not scapegoats or whipping boys here as we all know, they are funding the campaigns opposed to equal rights, and they are the ones carrying signs and putting placards on their lawns.
Thank you for clarifying that is not what I am doing
I have not said anything about "white guilt" I said slaves, I didnt say anything about color. You have a problem with white guilt? Ok... I dont.
Yes we had slaves in this country, yes other countries had slaves, yes slaves have been of a variety of races in different times and places.
It is a good example of.... Just because something was historically true... does not make it a good thing.
I dont want to go back to slavery because it used to be common in many cultures
I dont want to go back to burring people at the stake because they believed in this religion or that religion
I dont want to go back to the time when Alcohol was illegal in the US
I dont want to go back to the time when Women were not allowed the vote
and I dont want to go back to the time when marriage was not allowed to same sex couples as it is today, recognized in 12 states ( and one district ) and performed in 10 states and that number is growing every year.
Just because something used to be true, does not make it a good thing.
which is why I give no credit at all to the Historically or Traditional arguments.
Elizabeth was not beyond reproach either, however was a MUCN better queen.
One of my favorite quotes about her was from Raleigh ( if I recall, this is out of memory so not sure ), "her majesty did everything in halves"
LOL, she frustrated a lot of people, but still Elizabeth was perhaps my favorite English monarch, there are a couple others I admire. Henry the 2nd for example, although I dont have a favorable opinion of any of his sons. Particularly not the 2nd eldest Richard or the youngest John, both disasters.
Was it Churchill that mentioned we owe more to John's vices than the best behavior of any other king.( or something like that ) ( chuckle )