Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>maybe you 2 should find eachother and meet up. Maybe go out to dinner at the red velvet walrus!
No dinner with Jizzy for me.(Like he'd invite me!).

I heard Jizzybird ("just the facts") is a real slob. Picking food off other people's plates, yelling, drinking too much, chewing with his big yap open, burping and passing wind in the restaurant.

He throws chicken bones over his shoulder when he's done gnawing on a piece. Then he says "Cool Beans! Get a whiff of this!" and rips one off.

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay#section_1

The word had started to acquire associations of immorality by 1637[1] and was used in the late 17th century with the meaning "addicted to pleasures and dissipations."[9] This was by extension from the primary meaning of "carefree": implying "uninhibited by moral constraints." A gay woman was a prostitute, a gay man a womanizer and a gay house a brothel.[1]

The use of gay to mean "homosexual" was in origin merely an extension of the word's sexualised connotation of "carefree and uninhibited", which implied a willingness to disregard conventional or respectable sexual mores. Such usage is documented as early as the 1920s, and there is evidence for it before the 20th century,[1] although it was initially more commonly used to imply heterosexually unconstrained lifestyles, as in the once-common phrase "gay Lothario",[10] or in the title of the book and film The Gay Falcon (1941), which concerns a womanizing detective whose first name is "Gay." Similarly, Gilbert and MacDermott's music hall song of the 1880s, "Charlie Dilke Upset the Milk" - "Master Dilke upset the milk/When taking it home to Chelsea;/ The papers say that Charlie's gay/Rather a wilful wag!" - referred to Sir Charles Dilke's alleged heterosexual impropriety.[11] Well into the mid 20th century a middle-aged bachelor could be described as "gay", indicating that he was unattached and therefore free, without any implication of homosexuality. This usage could apply to women too. The British comic strip Jane was first published in the 1930s and described the adventures of Jane Gay. Far from implying homosexuality, it referred to her free-wheeling lifestyle with plenty of boyfriends (while also punning on Lady Jane Grey).

A passage from Gertrude Stein's Miss Furr & Miss Skeene (1922) is possibly the first traceable published use of the word to refer to a homosexual relationship. According to Linda Wagner-Martin (Favored Strangers: Gertrude Stein and her Family (1995)) the portrait, "featured the sly repetition of the word gay, used with sexual intent for one of the first times in linguistic history," and Edmund Wilson (1951, quoted by James Mellow in Charmed Circle (1974)) agreed.[12] For example:

They were ...gay, they learned little things that are things in being gay,†... they were quite regularly gay.
óGertrude Stein,†1922
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>Oh no trust me it didn't offend me! The meaning of gay and its use get thrown around a lot. But you gays are overly sensitive. Admit it, when someone says gay now its just as bad as a white guy saying the N word! Lighten up!
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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Me too! 36 beers $20. WOO-HOOOO!
there's nothing wrong with saving a buck with those roll-back prices;)

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<quoted text>maybe you 2 should find eachother and meet up. Maybe go out to dinner at the red velvet walrus!
Well I'm sure the conversation would be better than on here with you.

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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>"Off topic" is code for "You're winning this argument.".
Not at all. I'm winning and I'm on topic.

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just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>We will repeat it over and over untill you fundie homophobic freaks understand that you are wrong.
Why would anyone have a fear of homogenized milk?
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Not at all. I'm winning and I'm on topic.
Winner winner chicken dinner. There's no winning here.

But you go get 'em anyway Jared8! I'm rooting for you.

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If anyone on here is still ignorant enough to think being gay is a choice try this. Choose to be gay for a while you will see that you can't. You should be able to if its as simple and choosing to turn right or left at a stop sign. Go ahead choose to be gay for a week. This will prove to all of you that it's not a choice.
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Jaredb8 wrote:
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Well I'm sure the conversation would be better than on here with you.
No dinner with Jizzy for me.(Like he'd invite me!).

I heard Jizzybird ("just the facts") is a real slob. Picking food off other people's plates, yelling, drinking too much, chewing with his big yap open, burping and passing wind in the restaurant.

He throws chicken bones over his shoulder when he's done gnawing on a piece. Then he says "Cool Beans! Get a whiff of this!" and rips one off.

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Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>Denial of what? Why marriage exists in the first place? Why it developed as a male female, either monogamous or polygamous, relationship? Why SSM is virtually a modern Western creation?
But SSM does exist.

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Could someone, a SSMer, please explain where do we, as a society, draw the line, in defining marriage? At what point, does it become pointless?

Monogamous conjugal marriage proponents advocate maintaining the legal definition of marriage as a union of husband and wife.

SSM proponents advocate defining marriage as a union of (two) spouses for life, regardless of gender composition.

Plural conjugal marriage practitioners advocate for the inclusion of plural marriage in the legal definition.

Polyamorists, incest.....

Where is the line drawn?

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Jaredb8 wrote:
If anyone on here is still ignorant enough to think being gay is a choice try this. Choose to be gay for a while you will see that you can't. You should be able to if its as simple and choosing to turn right or left at a stop sign. Go ahead choose to be gay for a week. This will prove to all of you that it's not a choice.
What difference should that make for your argument about gay marriage? How about the person that can go both ways? Yes the one you never talk about, the "bi" sexual, let's be fair and allow them to marry one of each. I surely don't want to discriminate against the Bi. Do you? After all, they were born that way...right?
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<quoted text>there's nothing wrong with saving a buck with those roll-back prices;)
Hell yeah, and I can stick it in what's her names g-string later when I have my Wally World beer goggles on!

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If anyone on here is still ignorant enough to think being gay is a choice try this. Choose to be gay for a while you will see that you can't. You should be able to if its as simple and choosing to turn right or left at a stop sign. Go ahead choose to be gay for a week. This will prove to all of you that it's not a choice.
Assuming that "being gay is not a choice", what are the ramifications, societal obligations, personal responsibilities, etc.?

Why not just a societal "so what"? It is what it is. Why does that mean marriage redefinition? SSSB is not new, why does it require redefinition of legal marriage?

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RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>What difference should that make for your argument about gay marriage? How about the person that can go both ways? Yes the one you never talk about, the "bi" sexual, let's be fair and allow them to marry one of each. I surely don't want to discriminate against the Bi. Do you? After all, they were born that way...right?
So you like all others that don't understand gay or bisexual people think that it's all about sex.
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<quoted text>REALLY? Wow thanks for clarifying that! Its amazing, that one went way over my head! Please, go look at other threads and you tell me if they are on topic! The discussion flops around and gets twisted into a bunch of different topics! Now go find something else to do because you are a bore!
"just the facts" just felt the need to go off topic and tell you that you are off topic.

He does that to me too. He's silly like that. Silly!

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KiMare wrote:
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1. Never seen a liberal closeted politician caught playing around with a boy-toy?
Of course there has. It is just funnier when some self righteous bible thumpin' gay basher gets caught getting his back doors bashed in. Almost as funny as watching Rush Lamebrow bungle his way through making his drug addiction less "wrong" than anyone else's.

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<quoted text>Entertainment my dear! That's all it is. But I wonder why these people stay up all night just to post the same comments over and over again! How many times can you repeat yourself?
It's a little insulting to us that you find our situation amusing.

I'm guessing that if the shoe were on the other foot--if someone tried to deny your rights to bear arms or worship in the way you feel appropriate, you'd be on here trying to change minds, just like us.

And I'm guessing that you would get frustrated and angry if anyone made fun of your situation.

We're not here for your entertainment.

In some of your posts you indicate that you are a Christian person. Your words and actions are not those of Christ.

Here's a little tip... Before you get ready to hit the "post comment" button below, ask yourself, "Is this something that Christ would say? Is this how he wanted us to act when he commanded us to "love your neighbor as you love yourself"?
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Why would I support a brand (K Mart) that is on the decline and will cease to exist soon. I prefer to shop at successful retailers that will still be around if I have a problem with a purchase in the future.
Well excuuuuuuse me!

K Mart's been around probably over 50 years, don't write the obituary just yet. Great fishing tackle. Ammo.
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<quoted text>Do you understand the topic of this thread? Here is a clue its not about the bible, jebus or how, where and why gay people have sex.
Give us one more clue Jizzy!

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