Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

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A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Anonymous

Southbridge, MA

#187109 Apr 6, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
I've wondered why there was never a "Butch Pal for the Straight Gal" show on cable like the "Queer Eye....". Probably never got off the drawing board.
There is something about the sight of two attractive women who are.....uh....ah....:) It does seem to have a stimulating effect....
Yes, two attractive women.key words there. In real life most lesbians are nasty. They are dirty, butchy gross girls. Most of the time you can't tell if their a girl or man. Sometimes I wonder how a biological woman could look so manly. Its just not right! When me and my friend would mess around to get everyone going we really drew in a crowd:)lol. It was fun! But with starting a family now I can't do stuff like anymore!
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#187110 Apr 6, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes... Coming out is a political statement.
Thought you might take that tack....
"Coming out" is a personal statement about ones own sexuality, and the "political statement" is a call to unite. The "coming out" isn't a call to unite, it is self-serving publicity stunt to attract mates. They are different. Would I be serving a political agenda if I got on TV and announced that I was a Witch?. No. I'd be telling people about my personal business. Would I be serving a political agenda if I got on TV and announced that Witchcraft was a discriminated-against religion? Yes. See? They are different. The difference is that I do not care if some poof wants to be known as available. It's not what we are supposed to use public media for, at least, it didn't used to be, but, as we all know, we know live in self-indulgent times. Keep your personal information to yourself, please, you are making entirely too much noise in my space.
Anonymous

Southbridge, MA

#187111 Apr 6, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
I know! It's terrible, it gets in the way of a good time ....
I'm a lady(obviously) but I have a sense of humor, and I don't take everything to heart, I can joke around with people without getting offended. That is why everyone I know loves me!:)lol

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#187112 Apr 6, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>I don't have a problem with pot! I smoke that too on occasions. When I say drugs, sure it opens it up to a broad spectrum, but I mean the nasty crap like cocaine/meth etc. People who do that is definetly noticeable. It wears your skin out, rots your teeth out, destroys your body and your mind!
It all depends upon frequency and dosage though. As well as the individual's level of addiction.

I smoked as a teen/young adult. I've quit three times and started back twice, each time while dating a woman that smoked. Been away from them for over 20 years now. Each time I quit it was easy, just walked away. Others have great difficulty.

Likewise with alcohol and some of the harder drugs. As I stated earlier they all should be treated as health issues instead of criminal issues.
Anonymous

Southbridge, MA

#187113 Apr 6, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Thought you might take that tack....
"Coming out" is a personal statement about ones own sexuality, and the "political statement" is a call to unite. The "coming out" isn't a call to unite, it is self-serving publicity stunt to attract mates. They are different. Would I be serving a political agenda if I got on TV and announced that I was a Witch?. No. I'd be telling people about my personal business. Would I be serving a political agenda if I got on TV and announced that Witchcraft was a discriminated-against religion? Yes. See? They are different. The difference is that I do not care if some poof wants to be known as available. It's not what we are supposed to use public media for, at least, it didn't used to be, but, as we all know, we know live in self-indulgent times. Keep your personal information to yourself, please, you are making entirely too much noise in my space.
when it comes to homosexuality words and phrases are getting too strict and I think its ridiculous. For example, my little sister is in 5th grade, she got a week of out of school suspension because she said "that's gay" when the tip of her pencil broke off! The teacher said it was discrimatory slander. Gay used to mean happy, now the only time you can say that word without being punished is if you're comming out! I think all of it is ridiculous. People need to relax! The people who are considered "minorities" I believe are bcomming the majority! If a straight guy beats up a gay guy its a hate crime. But if a gay guy beats up a straight guy everyone just looks the other way. What's up with that?

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#187114 Apr 6, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, two attractive women.key words there. In real life most lesbians are nasty. They are dirty, butchy gross girls. Most of the time you can't tell if their a girl or man. Sometimes I wonder how a biological woman could look so manly. Its just not right! When me and my friend would mess around to get everyone going we really drew in a crowd:)lol. It was fun! But with starting a family now I can't do stuff like anymore!
Most are nasty? Manly? That hasn't been my experience at all. I've got a couple living next door. Both attractive and quite nice. I have a few more as clients and some are attractive while some are not. Just like the rest of the world. Take a walk through a mall and get back to me on the state of personal hygiene in this country.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#187115 Apr 6, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Thought you might take that tack....
"Coming out" is a personal statement about ones own sexuality, and the "political statement" is a call to unite. The "coming out" isn't a call to unite, it is self-serving publicity stunt to attract mates. They are different. Would I be serving a political agenda if I got on TV and announced that I was a Witch?. No. I'd be telling people about my personal business. Would I be serving a political agenda if I got on TV and announced that Witchcraft was a discriminated-against religion? Yes. See? They are different. The difference is that I do not care if some poof wants to be known as available. It's not what we are supposed to use public media for, at least, it didn't used to be, but, as we all know, we know live in self-indulgent times. Keep your personal information to yourself, please, you are making entirely too much noise in my space.
Gay people do not come out in order to attract mates. I guarantee you that you are 100% wrong.

When I came out to my friends, I was attempting to let them know about who I am--the real me.

Prior to coming out, so many of the women I worked with either hit on me or were trying to fix me up with their friends. It was uncomfortable for me. And I'm sure it made for some awkward moments for the girls I turned down.

For my family, it was important for them to know. I got tired of the pressure from them to date and marry--to settle down. They needed to know so that they would understand that they had it all wrong.

It is important for my community to know so that others who are struggling in the closet can know that there is a happy, wonderful life that they can experience. It has been helpful for young gay teens to recognize that there is a vibrant and powerful community for them.

During the AIDS crisis the LGBT community galvanized. We marched and protested in an effort to get better care for people who were dying needlessly.

It is helpful for celebrities to come out since they present a "normal" image to the rest of society. For eons, various cultures (including ours) has had a really bad idea about who gay men were. They thought we were lecherous old men who hung around parks and men's rooms--looking for victims.

When a kid or anyone who is struggling with coming out sees a sports figure admit that he or she is openly gay, it helps him or her to have someone to relate to. It goes a long way to helping them understand that they are normal and not alone.

I have yet to see a gay man or woman celebrity come out with the intention of finding a mate. And I've NEVER seen or heard such an interview with a publicly out celebrity that involved lurid details of their sex life.

I've seen plenty of closeted, conservative politicians or other public figures who were caught playing around with a boy-toy. Their hypocrisy is an embarrassment to them and their gang.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#187116 Apr 6, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Thought you might take that tack....
"Coming out" is a personal statement about ones own sexuality, and the "political statement" is a call to unite. The "coming out" isn't a call to unite, it is self-serving publicity stunt to attract mates. They are different. Would I be serving a political agenda if I got on TV and announced that I was a Witch?. No. I'd be telling people about my personal business. Would I be serving a political agenda if I got on TV and announced that Witchcraft was a discriminated-against religion? Yes. See? They are different. The difference is that I do not care if some poof wants to be known as available. It's not what we are supposed to use public media for, at least, it didn't used to be, but, as we all know, we know live in self-indulgent times. Keep your personal information to yourself, please, you are making entirely too much noise in my space.
I would think that coming out has multiple layers.
Homosexuals have been the butt of jokes for as long as I've been around. Gay folks have been ostracised heavily in that same time. I don't think it comes as a surprise that many keep their orientation a secret for a fair portion of their early life. Kids are cruel as hell. Eventually they've got to come out if they're going to be honest with themselves or their families. Political reasons? Sure. Seeking mates? Sure. But is that the sum total of the reasons for coming out? I seriously doubt it. I don't honestly think I can understand what it is to be forced into the closet, much less come out of it, given the way gays have been viewed for a good portion of my life.

I am reminded of my nephew's struggle. Most of us (his extended family) knew he was gay for a long time - since he was quite young. He finally came out after he was caught with a young man about 3 or 4 years older. His biological father disowned him. He didn't speak to another son by a different mother for a few years because he pierced his ear. That wasn't macho and really bothered him. Surprisingly, his stepfather kept an open mind. His mother, was totally surprised by the news and worried the rest of us would shun her. It was a bit messy for her until she got all of our reaction. Mostly, "what, you didn't know before now?" He is now married to his partner of 4 years. He's a quiet polite young man, clean cut and hard working. His mate is similar apart from being a bit more outgoing. His family has been much more supportive of him as far as I know.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#187117 Apr 7, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>when it comes to homosexuality words and phrases are getting too strict and I think its ridiculous. For example, my little sister is in 5th grade, she got a week of out of school suspension because she said "that's gay" when the tip of her pencil broke off! The teacher said it was discrimatory slander. Gay used to mean happy, now the only time you can say that word without being punished is if you're comming out! I think all of it is ridiculous. People need to relax! The people who are considered "minorities" I believe are bcomming the majority! If a straight guy beats up a gay guy its a hate crime. But if a gay guy beats up a straight guy everyone just looks the other way. What's up with that?
Yeah, she should have said.. that is so Christian when things are that stupid.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#187120 Apr 7, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>There is no such thing.

At it's most basic essence, marriage is a cross cultural constraint on evolutionary mating behavior.

ss couples are an evolutionary mistake. A frustrated, fruitless friendship.

Sorry.

Smile.

I just proved it doesn't exist. And you have no argument but denial.

If you call the tail on a dog a leg, what is it?

Smile.
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are clearly in denial.
Words describe reality.

When the word 'leg' comes to describe a tail, what describes the leg?

Moreover, would the tail become the same as a leg? Of course not.

Hence the problem with calling an imposter relationship marriage.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#187121 Apr 7, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
...
I've seen plenty of closeted, conservative politicians or other public figures who were caught playing around with a boy-toy. Their hypocrisy is an embarrassment to them and their gang.
1. Never seen a liberal closeted politician caught playing around with a boy-toy?

Got some hate, denial, bigotry, deceit and ignorance all balled up in one sentence there...

2. I thought you were talking about homosexuality. According to your numerous protestations, gay sex with a minor is pedophilia, not homosexuality.

Another Freudian slip???

Smile.
Ronald

Long Beach, CA

#187122 Apr 7, 2013
Regular readers of this thread are aware that the love I have for my Homosexual friends, the lesbians, and yes even the Africans, is second to none. Even so, I do not approve of "married" Homosexual couples adopting little non-Homosexual children and then raping them over and over.

Source: http://tinyurl.com/cb3n2lf

Ronald
Dorn

La Puente, CA

#187123 Apr 7, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, like your parents. Bet that they still cry themselves to sleep every night. "Oh" they must cry "Oh, if only our son had been normal".
----------
If two bown eyed parents had a blue eyed son would they cry themselves to sleep? It would be because both of them had blue eyeed genes in their background. If they had a homosexual son, it would be because the mother had a homosexual trait on one of her X chromosomes from grandfather or great grandfather or great-great grandfather.
Thomas Wickles

Justice, IL

#187124 Apr 7, 2013
There's no homosexual gene.

Science points to strange brain lateralization, instead.

The Supreme Court was when you hit the wall of reality.

I'm almost sorry for you.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#187125 Apr 7, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Never seen a liberal closeted politician caught playing around with a boy-toy?
Got some hate, denial, bigotry, deceit and ignorance all balled up in one sentence there...
2. I thought you were talking about homosexuality. According to your numerous protestations, gay sex with a minor is pedophilia, not homosexuality.
Another Freudian slip???
Smile.
1.) Not even worth addressing

2.) "Boy Toy" is a term given to a younger man (not a child or minor) who is with someone much older.
And let me ask you a question... If gay sex with a minor is "homosexuality", then what is heterosexual sex with a minor considered? Would it be heterosexuality or just pedophilia?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187126 Apr 7, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, she should have said.. that is so Christian when things are that stupid.
You stayed up until 2 AM just to say that?

Beware! "Stupid" Christians are all around you! Ever vigilant!

Too funny.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187127 Apr 7, 2013
Ronald wrote:
Regular readers of this thread are aware that the love I have for my Homosexual friends, the lesbians, and yes even the Africans, is second to none. Even so, I do not approve of "married" Homosexual couples adopting little non-Homosexual children and then raping them over and over.
Source: http://tinyurl.com/cb3n2lf
Ronald
Ronald.

I do not approve either. This is the same sort of behavior that "Big D" accuses people in polygamous marriages of, he may be shocked that non polygamists are guilty of it. Maybe they are secretly polygamists?

Best Wishes and say hello to your honey for me. Arf!

Frankie Rizzo.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#187128 Apr 7, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
You stayed up until 2 AM just to say that?
Beware! "Stupid" Christians are all around you! Ever vigilant!
Too funny.
No I just work up for a while

You are not bright enough to understand the point I was making but others here are

If what I said was in any way offensive, then so was the other comment

Donít worry there are people here bright enough to comprehend it
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187129 Apr 7, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
No I just work up for a while
You are not bright enough to understand the point I was making but others here are
If what I said was in any way offensive, then so was the other comment
Donít worry there are people here bright enough to comprehend it
I understood it. It was stupid. You are not bright enough to know that.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#187130 Apr 7, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
No I just work up for a while
You are not bright enough to understand the point I was making but others here are
If what I said was in any way offensive, then so was the other comment
Donít worry there are people here bright enough to comprehend it
I work up about an hour ago!

Too funny.

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