Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,767

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Big D

Modesto, CA

#186636 Apr 5, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly.
Even child molesting welfare cheating poly marriage doesn't harm you.
Why should it?
Your friends have not harmed me specifically, but I am glad they are being put in prison for their crimes against children.

I think you are wrong assuming all people in Poly relationships are like that. I have never assumed anything of the kind, only pointed out that is what people are seeing and why public support has not grown for that movement.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186637 Apr 5, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
That'll convince her to support SSM! Way to go Biggie!
You are mistaken that I want Cow Grils support, I want her to keep making comments as the poster child for those against same sex marriage, that will do more to support SSM than anything else I could do.

Like Sarah Palin for the Tea Party
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186638 Apr 5, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh for chrissakes any excuse at all to inject religion and murdering Christians for entertainment into the conversation eh Biggie?
I only bring that up when people bring up history and tradition as if following what was done in the past is always a good thing.

Try to keep up Frankie, you need to learn to take posts in the context of what they were responding to.
Station

Covina, CA

#186639 Apr 5, 2013
Call another trash hauling company to haul away D, quick.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186640 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Your friends have not harmed me specifically, but I am glad they are being put in prison for their crimes against children.
I think you are wrong assuming all people in Poly relationships are like that. I have never assumed anything of the kind, only pointed out that is what people are seeing and why public support has not grown for that movement.
Why don't you point out your friends, the gay serial killers whenever someone mentions same sex marriage then?

You bring up child molesting and welfare cheating whenever someone mentions poly marriage.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186641 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I only bring that up when people bring up history and tradition as if following what was done in the past is always a good thing.
Try to keep up Frankie, you need to learn to take posts in the context of what they were responding to.
You bring it up every chance you can get.

You need to learn to take posts "in the context of what they were responding to" (sic).

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#186642 Apr 5, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you know how some Christians like announce over and over again that they are Christian? They have crosses around their necks. They have that "Jesus fish" think on their bumper. They always seem to have a piece of scripture on their tongue. Heck, there are entire network stations devoted to Christianity.
The same can be said for Judaism. The same can be said for Islam.
Are you as frustrated with these folks who seem to always be pushing their religion on you? Do you get as outraged at them when they want to "indoctrinate" your children in public schools or in other public areas?
Here's the thing... The dust will eventually settle down. LGBT people won't always have a need to "come out". At some point in the future--probably long after you and I are gone--being gay will be seen as perfectly normal. There won't be any need for us to make an special effort to make our presence known.
I still think they will always have to come out, because the norm will still be straight, kids will be kids.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186643 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
You are mistaken that I want Cow Grils support, I want her to keep making comments as the poster child for those against same sex marriage, that will do more to support SSM than anything else I could do.
Like Sarah Palin for the Tea Party
Like you, the great Rose_NoHo, and the idiot troll X-Box do for SSM?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186644 Apr 5, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
You bring it up every chance you can get.
You need to learn to take posts "in the context of what they were responding to" (sic).
Only when they bring up "tradition" and "historically" as if they are some kind of magic words, they stop bringing it up, so will I
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186645 Apr 5, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you point out your friends, the gay serial killers whenever someone mentions same sex marriage then?
You bring up child molesting and welfare cheating whenever someone mentions poly marriage.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
I don’t defend any criminals, regardless of their orientation.

None of those criminals that I am aware of have specifically used same sex marriage as an excuse for their crimes.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#186646 Apr 5, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>And there you have it. Marriage to you is a sanctioned fluckfest, a god ordained ticket to procreation. Well good for you. My marriage is about sharing my life with my wife. Any one can have sex you moron, and you damn sure don't need to be married to do so. What a sad life you have.
I'm all for civil unions for your gay friends. Save Marriage for man and woman.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#186647 Apr 5, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly.
Even child molesting welfare cheating poly marriage doesn't harm you.
Why should it?
True and even Harvey Milk dating a teen boy didn't harm him, I don't get his point.

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#186648 Apr 5, 2013
just the facts wrote:
<quoted text>I have a Friend who lives in Amsterdam, in the 12 years that same sex marriage has been legal, his marriage of 20 years has not changed at all. Why should it?
Why don't you bring that up to the Supreme court that you have a gay friend that does this and that...lol

Since: Nov 12

Elk Grove, CA

#186649 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
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I don’t defend any criminals, regardless of their orientation.
None of those criminals that I am aware of have specifically used same sex marriage as an excuse for their crimes.
I take it that you are against having Harvey Milk's name on buildings?

Since: Mar 12

Milwaukee

#186650 Apr 5, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I'm all for civil unions for your gay friends. Save Marriage for man and woman.
So tell me if you are ok with civil unions tell me should they have all of the rights and benefits as a marriage?
Big D

Modesto, CA

#186651 Apr 5, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>I take it that you are against having Harvey Milk's name on buildings?
I really don’t spend a lot of time worrying about it
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186652 Apr 5, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I don’t defend any criminals, regardless of their orientation.
None of those criminals that I am aware of have specifically used same sex marriage as an excuse for their crimes.
Please explain to us how polygamists "use polygamy to commit their crimes".
heartandmind

Moline, IL

#186653 Apr 5, 2013
MessNotWithMe wrote:
"Fisting" and "rimming" are filthy practices not equivalent to heterosexual marriage in any way. The CDC fact sheet for Sept. 2011 states men who have sex with men are 44 times more likely than other men to contract HIV. And, the children are NOT all right, since studies by the Witherspoon Institute show children raised by homosexuals fare worse socially, psychologically and physically than people raised in other family arrangements. The children of parents who at some point had a same-sex partner were more likely to be on welfare, have a history of depression, have less education and reported 3 times as often as children of intact biological families that they were forced to have sex, the study found.
Here is what an honest gay activist found: "To be fully formed, children need to be free to generously receive from and express affection to parents of both genders. Genderless marriages deny this fullness.
There are perhaps a hundred different things, small and large, that are negotiated between parents and kids every week. Moms and dads interact differently with their children. To give kids two moms or two dads is to withhold from them someone whom they desperately need and deserve in order to be whole and happy. It is to permanently etch “deprivation” on their hearts."
you cite the witherspoon institute? seriously? to begin with that's a religious based think tank so of course you'll get biased information.
secondly....the study you refer to, in 2012, the Witherspoon Institute drew public attention for having funded a controversial study—called the "New Family Structures Study" (NFSS)—concerning LGBT parenting, conducted by Mark Regnerus, an associate professor of sociology at the University of Texas at Austin - which was found to be severely flawed in an audit conducted by the publisher of the study Social Science Research, and was criticized by major professional scientific institutions and associations as well as other sociologists at the University of Texas. The American Sociological Association formally condemned the NFSS for being invalid in a brief to the United States Supreme Court. The University of Texas conducted an inquiry into the publication and declined to conduct a personal investigation stating that ordinary errors are not considered personal misconduct. Documents from the University of Texas at Austin show that Mark Regnerus requested payment authorizations, for assistance in data analysis, to William Bradford Wilcox, associate professor of sociology at the University of Virginia, a member of the James Madison Society at Princeton University, the director of the National Marriage Project at the University of Virginia, and fellow (at that time) of the Witherspoon Institute. William Bradford Wilcox no longer appears on the official website for the Witherspoon Institute. Although the Witherspoon funding was part of the controversy, these documents show direct involvement in the study by the Witherspoon Institute. The methodology of the study has received criticism.

keep trying lil' buddy.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186654 Apr 5, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Why don't you bring that up to the Supreme court that you have a gay friend that does this and that...lol
YUK!YUK!YUK!

Yeah, and he lives in Amsterdam!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#186655 Apr 5, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>True and even Harvey Milk dating a teen boy didn't harm him, I don't get his point.
Big D is really against polygamy but cannot express that because it will reveal his hypocrisy.

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