Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,146

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185680 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
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exactly, it was passed with Obvious bias, and the court recognized that fact..
thus DOMA will liley be struck down....along with prop 8, which has already been found unconstituional by the california supream court.
or were you refering to another federal law that you think usurps rights unfairly...??
Yes. The laws against poly and incest marriage are EQUALLY unconstitutional.

Geez, tough guy. Grammar. At least try. Relax. Take your time.
Anonymous

Alexandria, VA

#185681 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
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Not even the lawyers who defended DOma or prop HATE(8)
could give the court a reason to ban gay marraige that WASNT based on prejudices, politics and personal belief.
he himself admitted that it was passed under such conditions.
The constituion clearly states that religious belifes are not to influence law making!!
we base our laws on the constittuion, not the bible..
sorry.
this isnt a nation founder by god to be run by jesus and his confused diciples...
You my dearest sunshine are confused! Are you gay? How does it work, is there a wife man and a husband man? Do you switch roles, and positions?

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#185682 Mar 30, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
Go try to get a license. Go ahead. They need another lunatic in the asylum.
XBox

Frankie raises a valid point. If the opposite sex requirement is no longer to be maintained because it is considered discriminatory, by what reasoning do we maintain the prohibition against blood relatives from marrying? Or limit the number of spouses to two? Both of them are discriminatory.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#185683 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
Not even the lawyers who defended DOma or prop HATE(8)
Prop 8 against poly mate?

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could give the court a reason to ban gay marraige that WASNT based on prejudices, politics and personal belief.
[/QUOTE]

Same can be said about polygamy, and marriage between relatives. Fair is fair.
he himself admitted that it was passed under such conditions.
The constituion clearly states that religious belifes are not to influence law making!!
we base our laws on the constittuion, not the bible..
sorry.
this isnt a nation founder by god to be run by jesus and his confused diciples...
Exactly....no reason to ban marriage between any consenting adults.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#185684 Mar 30, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
XBox
Frankie raises a valid point. If the opposite sex requirement is no longer to be maintained because it is considered discriminatory, by what reasoning do we maintain the prohibition against blood relatives from marrying? Or limit the number of spouses to two? Both of them are discriminatory.
XBox is very bigoted against polygamy.(S)he once posted an angry hissy-rant against it, including "What about the children?!"

But of course Rose_NoHo ignored the flagrant violation of her dopey "Rose's Law". Still, according to Rose's Law, XBox is a moron.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185685 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
so you HAVE to wait until you are 18, even IF YOU KNOW your gay to date an older guy...??
ive seen alot of younger men with older guys.... they LOVE older guys
it never really peaks my freak meter...
JERRY was with LITTLE boys......hardly comparable to a teen who knows he is totally gay...
lets see what GAY people have to say??
you and i arnt that qualified to judge a situation like that..
it is certainly in the border lands.....good call mother superior...
ill think on that..
comparing him to a child molester isnt really fair though...
try harder next time...
Refreshing, to see that you have found a way to justify pedophilia. I see that it isn't pedophilia, if the younger boy seeks the company of the older man, that seems to exonerate the older man. Nice.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185686 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
so you HAVE to wait until you are 18, even IF YOU KNOW your gay to date an older guy...??
ive seen alot of younger men with older guys.... they LOVE older guys
it never really peaks my freak meter...
JERRY was with LITTLE boys......hardly comparable to a teen who knows he is totally gay...
lets see what GAY people have to say??
you and i arnt that qualified to judge a situation like that..
it is certainly in the border lands.....good call mother superior...
ill think on that..
comparing him to a child molester isnt really fair though...
try harder next time...
Your intellect is truly.......dizzying. Let's see what the other gays have to say, shall we? If anything. They might stay strangely silent on this issue, although I would use the phrase "closing ranks"...
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185687 Mar 30, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
<quoted text>
You should wake up from your bigotry and realize the world evolves.
Yes, indeed, this post DOES clarify the difference between polygamy and SSM. Truly edifying.
Tommy cochrane

Anderson, CA

#185688 Mar 30, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
Prop 8 against poly mate?
<quoted text>
Same can be said about polygamy, and marriage between relatives. Fair is fair.
<quoted text>
Exactly....no reason to ban marriage between any consenting adults.
I never said there was..
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185689 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
mr.Reichardo...the bigot.
when you see a older man and a youger man together in harmony and love??
you see a child molester....
because that is what you want to see.
whe i see a 16 year old who really loves his older man??
i say "be careful" ...only as i would anybody dating someone that much older...
16 year old women date 30 year old men all the time..
some of them want their daddies??
mabey?
whatever....
it is a pretty permissive society when it comes to sexuality....
at the one I live in...
Riccardo sees clearly, as do I, that this is defined as pedophilia. The judge will also. So, you believe that you live in a society that is permissive enough to allow pedophilia, do you? We call that "Chicken-hawking", don't you? You HAVE heard that term before, haven't you? You are deranged, and perverted, to think that we would allow that.
Tommy cochrane

Anderson, CA

#185690 Mar 30, 2013
Country-Girl22 wrote:
<quoted text>You my dearest sunshine are confused! Are you gay? How does it work, is there a wife man and a husband man? Do you switch roles, and positions?
I get that alot...

I passionatle speaks up for civil rights for gay and lesbians??

so i naturally must be gay....

sorry to rain on your parade....

i come from a tolerant family...... thats all...

you know.
Tommy cochrane

Anderson, CA

#185691 Mar 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes. The laws against poly and incest marriage are EQUALLY unconstitutional.
Geez, tough guy. Grammar. At least try. Relax. Take your time.
when the time is right?

mabey you will have your wish...
Tommy cochrane

Anderson, CA

#185692 Mar 30, 2013
Randy -Rock- Hudson wrote:
<quoted text>
Riccardo sees clearly, as do I, that this is defined as pedophilia. The judge will also. So, you believe that you live in a society that is permissive enough to allow pedophilia, do you? We call that "Chicken-hawking", don't you? You HAVE heard that term before, haven't you? You are deranged, and perverted, to think that we would allow that.
what judge??

what case??

'chicken hawks" are people like bush and cheney....
who pound the drums of war.
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185693 Mar 30, 2013
sheesh void of hate wrote:
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In any dispute of such magnitude you'll find all sorts of malcontents on both sides of the fence. Why let that detail get in the way of reason and fact? I have presented the same argument about inheritance and end of life issues as marriage relates to them. The difference is I am not gay so I cannot deliver from his perspective.
I'm surprised that, in spite of having known and been friends with numerous homosexuals, veryvermilion is the one who made you think you could change your tune.
I believe the difference is that very few (at least in here) have the ability to drastically personalize the issue, as VV had done. I was rather surprised, too.
:D
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185694 Mar 30, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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But it does make one a criminal in California. And potentially a felon.
Hey! Welcome back, it wasn't the same without you.
:D
You O.K.?
Tommy cochrane

Anderson, CA

#185695 Mar 30, 2013
Jaredb8 wrote:
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Great comment!!!
thank you, I appreciate it Jared!
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185696 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
there are fanatics in all cultures...
just make sure you dont end up one!!
I hope it isnt too late already
were here to preach tolerance and acceptance of people who arnt like us....
who ever we may be..
try to not come across as a paranoid xenophobe.
it makes you look like an antique..
Let me see if I have this right....a paranoid xenophobe is one who believes that pedophilia is wrong, and a fanatic is someone who doesn't agree with your justification of it, and you're the practical, sensible one that believes that pedophilia is acceptable, if the older man is not a "bad influence", as defined by you, of course. Did I get that right?
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185697 Mar 30, 2013
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>What part of statutory rape confuses you?
Why, the ideology and specifications, of course....
Tommy cochrane

Anderson, CA

#185698 Mar 30, 2013
as soon as were two pages down the road...

dummies like rock head, cant find my original post on 16 year olds dating someone twice their age.

GIrLS do it all the time.

and there are worse evils in the world, than a 16 year old, hot for 32 years olds....who aLREADY knows he is super GAY.

I agree with the law...I never said i wasnt in full agreement.

what about denying a whole class of people their civil rights?? based on nothing but ignorance, bigotry and personal religious beliefs.??

not a peep from you, randy rednecker...

what about launching a pre-emptive war on bogus intelligence and based on lies to the public?

likely not a peep.

how pathetic
Randy -Rock- Hudson

Wooster, OH

#185699 Mar 30, 2013
Tommy cochrane wrote:
<quoted text>
which part of my post confused you??
it must have been the part where i said I agree with the law...
You didn't confuse anyone. You said that pedophilia is acceptable, if the older man is not a bad influence. Crystal clear. We read you, loud and clear, wing-nut.

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