Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,187

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#184634 Mar 26, 2013
akpilot wrote:
How sad is it that there are generally 6-8 people who have no life, and spend their lonely days trolling the thread to post judge-it's not based on the content of the post, but based on the name attached to the post?
How much sadder would it be if there was only 1 person?
Seriously, look at the judge-its. With near 100% accuracy you will see page after page, 6-8 judge-it's.
So sad.
Amen!

It simply exposes the ignorant bigotry of their position. A mindless opposition to anyone who disagrees with their demands. Childish and silly.

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#184635 Mar 26, 2013
akpilot wrote:
How sad is it that there are generally 6-8 people who have no life, and spend their lonely days trolling the thread to post judge-it's not based on the content of the post, but based on the name attached to the post?
How much sadder would it be if there was only 1 person?
Seriously, look at the judge-its. With near 100% accuracy you will see page after page, 6-8 judge-it's.
So sad.
endocannabanoid system wrote:
<quoted text>
you are right here with, us mr. pursuit of liberty for all...
He is not 'right here with us', he makes one of the most reasoned, respectful and thoughtful responses found here.

No matter what he says, there are 6 to 8 'judgits' that deem it 'hate'. Mindless responses like yours that simply reveal bigotry.

Grow up.

Smile.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#184636 Mar 26, 2013
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
You are so confused.
DOMA has already failed in court, and the basis for that decision was the the RIGHT to REGULATE and DEFINE marriage rested with the STATE!!! The SCOTUS upholding that decision would AFFIRM that the STATES have the power to REGULATE and DEFINE marriage. It would do NOTHING to help your argument.
You really should stop pretending that you understand the legal system.
The Supreme Court has already once impacted the state's ability to regulate marriage in 1967 when decided in the Loving v. Virginia case. It overturned not only Virginia's law against interracial marriage, but it also overturned its own 1883 decision, Pace v. Alabama, in which a ban on interracial marriage was upheld.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#184637 Mar 26, 2013
Baker v Nelson is US Supreme Court precedent for a State's right to define marriage as one man and one woman. Proposition 8 was a legal amendment to define marriage as one man and one woman. If SCOTUS doesn't rule for the people of California, it will have voided its own precedent.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#184638 Mar 26, 2013
KiMare wrote:
akpilot wrote:
How sad is it that there are generally 6-8 people who have no life, and spend their lonely days trolling the thread to post judge-it's not based on the content of the post, but based on the name attached to the post?
How much sadder would it be if there was only 1 person?
Seriously, look at the judge-its. With near 100% accuracy you will see page after page, 6-8 judge-it's.
So sad.
<quoted text>
He is not 'right here with us', he makes one of the most reasoned, respectful and thoughtful responses found here.
No matter what he says, there are 6 to 8 'judgits' that deem it 'hate'. Mindless responses like yours that simply reveal bigotry.
Grow up.
Smile.
Oh please, Kim... You are on about 10 (or more) of these gay themed forums. You've posted hundreds (thousands?) of comments over the past 3 years.

And you've most recently taken to outright LYING about epigenetics. You claim that science has reached the conclusion that an epigenetic marker "mistake" has been located. You say that there is no doubt. And you KNOW this is not true.

When you come on here and LIE, you continue to lose credibility.

Those who might support you do not like to be associated with a liar.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#184639 Mar 26, 2013
"Marriage Ruling Could Save Same-Sex Couples Thousands"
By Blake Ellis, CNN Money March 26, 2013

Should the Supreme Court overturn a federal law that defines marriage as solely between a man and a woman, some married same-sex couples will save $8,000 or more in income tax, a new analysis finds.

This week, the court will hear a case challenging the Defense of Marriage Act, a 1996 law that prevents same-sex couples from receiving more than 1,000 federal benefits that opposite-sex married couples receive.

This includes the right to file federal taxes jointly -- which, depending on income, gives some married filers a "bonus" of thousands of dollars, while penalizing others.

A same-sex couple with combined income of $100,000, in which one person earns $70,000 and the other makes $30,000, currently pays an extra $1,625 per year by filing separately rather than jointly, according to an analysis H&R Block conducted for CNNMoney. The calculations assume a standard deduction, no children and no tax credits.

The extra tax liability jumps to nearly $8,000 when one spouse earns all $100,000 and the other reports no income. In this case, couples filing jointly owe tax of $11,858, while a same-sex couple filing separately owes $19,585 -- a 65% difference.

Another major tax issue at stake in the DOMA case is the estate tax. Currently, surviving spouses in federally-recognized marriages don't have to pay taxes on their deceased spouse's estate, while same-sex widows pay a 35% estate tax on anything in excess of a $5 million exemption.

(read more here: http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/26/pf/taxes/same... )

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#184640 Mar 26, 2013
Let's reform taxes and entitlements, not rewrite marriage laws for everyone.

Same sex marriage is bad because propaganda dissuades low information voters against their natural allies, the conservatives.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#184642 Mar 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Let's reform taxes and entitlements, not rewrite marriage laws for everyone.
Same sex marriage is bad because propaganda dissuades low information voters against their natural allies, the conservatives.
This is the 21st century, we can multitask, we can remove the entitlements for the wealthy in the form of their entitlement tax breaks while at the same time promoting justice and equality for same sex couples by allowing them to marry.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#184643 Mar 26, 2013
akpilot wrote:
<quoted text>
If you buy this nonsense you really need to get your head checked.
If the "far right" had the clout you claim Romney would have never made it to NH in the Primary.
We all watched Romney jump way to the right in order to be nominated, it was really amusing watching him say things that he never ever even indicated before, to get himself nominated.

We all saw it, maybe you were on vacation, you donít remember the comments played over and over about how you say this to get nominated, and then have to backtrack in order to get elected? It was in all the media except the Faux News of course.

And the things he did and said, lost him the election against someone that could have easily been beaten if he had remained the moderate he was before running for office.

His problem was, once saying the right wing fringe stuff in the primary, it is recorded and played back during the general.

Every Republican nominee is going to have the same issue until the republican party moves back to the center.

Until they do, I donít see a way around the problem the Republicans have.
Rant

United States

#184644 Mar 26, 2013
What happen to the Roman Empire when they accepted same sex as an ok thing to do. The empire fell shortly after that is a fact. Also same sex or gays are nearly one hundred more times likely to pass along hepatitis because of anal bleeding. Odd don't you think. It wasnt meant to be. You have a disease and attempting to poison the US is not right in anyway. You will all have to be quarantined if this goes through then executed and your remains burned in order to cleanse the earth of your filth the Supreme Court must vote you out and put an end to this once and for all. Rule it FINAL NO with no appeal and to never be brought up again.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#184645 Mar 26, 2013
Rant wrote:
What happen to the Roman Empire when they accepted same sex as an ok thing to do. The empire fell shortly after that is a fact. Also same sex or gays are nearly one hundred more times likely to pass along hepatitis because of anal bleeding. Odd don't you think. It wasnt meant to be. You have a disease and attempting to poison the US is not right in anyway. You will all have to be quarantined if this goes through then executed and your remains burned in order to cleanse the earth of your filth the Supreme Court must vote you out and put an end to this once and for all. Rule it FINAL NO with no appeal and to never be brought up again.
Actually Rome fell not long after becoming a Christian empire.

You have to go to actual school, not sunday school to learn about history.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#184646 Mar 26, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Baker v Nelson is US Supreme Court precedent for a State's right to define marriage as one man and one woman. Proposition 8 was a legal amendment to define marriage as one man and one woman. If SCOTUS doesn't rule for the people of California, it will have voided its own precedent.
The Supreme Court has reversed its decision on at least 10 occasions over the years. In the 1830's the Supreme Court upheld a lower court's decision to ban interracial marriage. Then in 1967 it overturned that decision.

Since: Dec 09

Knoxville, TN

#184647 Mar 26, 2013
Rant wrote:
What happen to the Roman Empire when they accepted same sex as an ok thing to do. The empire fell shortly after that is a fact. Also same sex or gays are nearly one hundred more times likely to pass along hepatitis because of anal bleeding. Odd don't you think. It wasnt meant to be. You have a disease and attempting to poison the US is not right in anyway. You will all have to be quarantined if this goes through then executed and your remains burned in order to cleanse the earth of your filth the Supreme Court must vote you out and put an end to this once and for all. Rule it FINAL NO with no appeal and to never be brought up again.
The Roman Empire fell for numerous reasons. It's a myth to say that it fell due to an acceptance of homosexuality.

Most historians believe that the Empire fell primarily because it became so large that it could not defend itself, from a monetary standpoint and a lack of manpower.

Regarding "diseases", you have to understand that these illnesses do not care about the orientation of the person when it transmits itself from one person to another. They are opportunistic infections that simply find the easiest way to stay alive and grow.

And if you want to talk about a "deadly disease", let's talk about how you straight people abort 40,000,000 babies each year. In a little over seven and a half years, that's about the number of people who live in the U.S.

You guys cause much more death on the planet than gay men.

And lesbians are less likely than even heterosexuals to develop HIV.

So, your comments about disease and the gay community is just false.
MoneyWasters

La Puente, CA

#184648 Mar 26, 2013
This sounds like a direct connection tot he Glendora, California "stupid" file being played out in court.

Oh that's right eh city of Glendora, Ca. lost (3) times and used tax payers money to defend it's self, yet at the same time or out of the other side of their neck they said in city council meetings.

We are not involved?

More lies coming from the city council member's, city attorney and city manager;

Joseph Santoro

Gene Murabito

Judy Nelson

Karen Davis

Douglas Tessitor
gubbub

Pittsburgh, PA

#184649 Mar 26, 2013
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Judge Gay is why
Grovers crazy

La Puente, CA

#184650 Mar 26, 2013
Grover Norquist is and always sounded like a "muslim brotherhood" member, since his wife are Muslim's.

Grover Norquist has called for the destruction of America, time for this nasty, filthy piece of trash to be arrested deported to a muslim country of his choice.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#184651 Mar 26, 2013
veryvermilion wrote:
<quoted text>
The Roman Empire fell for numerous reasons. It's a myth to say that it fell due to an acceptance of homosexuality.
Most historians believe that the Empire fell primarily because it became so large that it could not defend itself, from a monetary standpoint and a lack of manpower.
Regarding "diseases", you have to understand that these illnesses do not care about the orientation of the person when it transmits itself from one person to another. They are opportunistic infections that simply find the easiest way to stay alive and grow.
And if you want to talk about a "deadly disease", let's talk about how you straight people abort 40,000,000 babies each year. In a little over seven and a half years, that's about the number of people who live in the U.S.
You guys cause much more death on the planet than gay men.
And lesbians are less likely than even heterosexuals to develop HIV.
So, your comments about disease and the gay community is just false.
The problem is they are learning about history in Sunday school

Rome was a Christian empire when it fell, had been for 150 years. are they saying that Christians used to accept homosexuality and then changed their minds?

They donít like to remember the Rome fell as a Christian empire, so they just leave that part out.

Now I am not saying that their being a Christian empire is the why they fell, but it was another drop in the bucket.

The empire had sustained itself through conquest, and plunder of the surrounding kingdoms, once that conquest slowed, even stopped, it started collapsing on itself.

That and the fact that after Augustus, the line of rulers got pretty bad pretty fast.

The religious conflicts over time also added to it, Constantine finally gave up and converted to Christianity to quell the violent Christian riots. Before long Christianity was THE religion of Rome, there is a reason the head of the church was and is in Rome but they donít like to remember why.

Rome was a Christian empire as it fell, and they really donít like to be reminded of that.
Grovers crazy

La Puente, CA

#184652 Mar 26, 2013
Grover Norquist is and always sounded like a "muslim brotherhood" member, since his wife are Muslim's.

Grover Norquist has called for the destruction of America, time for this nasty, filthy piece of trash to be arrested deported to a muslim country of his choice.

He of course is the darling and leader of the Tea Party aka; muslim brotherhood (USA branch).. Beware of him and his tea party members.
Rant

United States

#184653 Mar 26, 2013
Sorry the truth hurts. And yet another failed attemp to lie and read things to your own selfish needs to try and make others believe your lies.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#184654 Mar 26, 2013
It is interesting to think, that a hundred years from today, and beyond, they will be talking about today.

This is a landmark day in American history

As will the day in June when the decision is released.

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