Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Pietro Armando wrote:
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Its been said that marriage developed as a means of dealing with the products, children, of the make female union. If human reproduction wasn't sexual, why would it matter who married who? Why prohibit siblings from marrying? Why does it matter to the state that men marry men/women marry women?
You didn't answer my question. Do you think reproduction is the ONE and ONLY State interest in marriage?

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Yeah, right. And that's why you attack people in favor of gay marriage, and tea bag those against it.
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I said you are on the losing side.
I don't attack anyone for their position on gay marriage.

I know that you feel attacked because I point out your ignorance, but that has nothing to do with your position on this issue.

In fact, it is the side of me that is in favor of same sex marriage that wishes you would shut up, you certainly aren't helping the cause with your ignorant nonsense.

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Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Not my fault you can't remember your posts.
But, I said you don't have to be able to reproduce in order to marry. You claimed that I disagree with the courts. That implies you're saying the courts say you have to be able to reproduce in order to marry.
That is your answer to your inability to back up your accusations with actual fact?

You really are a mental midget, I wouldn't be surprised if you have a post it note on your monitor reminding yourself to breath.

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LOL. Actually, the don't matter at all. They are worm poop now, and have been for centuries. Things have changed. Slavery is no longer allowed, 13th Amendment. Women can vote, 19th Amendment.
You're right, when I want to understand the meaning of the Constitution and the 14th Amendment I should come to Rose for an explanation and not Jacob Howard, Lyman Trumbull, John Bingham, Thaddeus Stevens, Henry Deming, Benjamin G. Brown, Ignatius Donnelly etc..

My guess- you have never heard of any of those people.

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Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Wonder how they would have felt about Loving v VA.
Doesn't matter, what mattered was how the Supreme Court felt about it in 1967.
Perhaps if you took the time to educate yourself you might know how many of them would have felt.

"It were doubtless to be wished, that the power of prohibiting the importation of slaves had not been postponed until the year 1808, or rather that it had been suffered to have immediate operation. But it is not difficult to account, either for this restriction on the general government, or for the manner in which the whole clause is expressed. It ought to be considered as a great point gained in favor of humanity, that a period of twenty years may terminate forever, within these States, a traffic which has so long and so loudly upbraided the barbarism of modern policy; that within that period, it will receive a considerable discouragement from the federal government, and may be totally abolished, by a concurrence of the few States which continue the unnatural traffic, in the prohibitory example which has been given by so great a majority of the Union. Happy would it be for the unfortunate Africans, if an equal prospect lay before them of being redeemed from the oppressions of their European brethren!"-- James Madison

"The augmentation of slaves weakens the states; and such a trade is diabolical in itself, and disgraceful to mankind."-- George Mason

"There is not a man living who wishes more sincerely than I do, to see a plan adopted for the abolition of [slavery]."-- George Washington

"Every measure of prudence, therefore, ought to be assumed for the eventual total extirpation of slavery from the United States ... I have, throughout my whole life, held the practice of slavery in ... abhorrence."-- John Adams

"It is much to be wished that slavery may be abolished. The honour of the States, as well as justice and humanity, in my opinion, loudly call upon them to emancipate these unhappy people. To contend for our own liberty, and to deny that blessing to others, involves an inconsistency not to be excused."--John Jay

Now educate yourself so you can stop looking so damn stupid.
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Rose, why do you have a woman's name when everyone knows you a gay man?
Robert
Does that mean moho is gay even after the operation?
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commonpeeps wrote:
<quoted text>Does that mean moho is gay even after the operation?
Absolutely

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commonpeeps wrote:
<quoted text>Does that mean moho is gay even after the operation?
Did it happen after your operation?
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Yup, you're obviously gay also. If someone keeps calling you out on it, there's usually a good reason. I don't change my name, unlike you. How many different names do you use? A bunch, I'm sure. All you closet cases love to hide your true self. It's ok for you to endorse homosexuality but not good enough for you to admit you're also gay. You're sad and pathetic.
Robert
Nah,wrong again moron! You see I believe that there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay,and I've been married to the same women for 35 years with 3 grown kids! I have many gay friends who to the person are kind,decent,loving human beings and that's why I support them wholeheartedly! You on the other hand sound mighty suspiciously guilty and your self hatred is evident! What's the matter,feeling so guilty and filled with such self hatred that you have to stay in that closet and keep remodeling it to make people think your not gay? It's OK little buddy,come on out,you'll be surprised at all the help that's there from the gay community!So again,are you gay also,I see many people accusing you of it so your post says the same about you! Are you gay? LOL
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Nah,wrong again moron! You see I believe that there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay,and I've been married to the same women for 35 years with 3 grown kids! I have many gay friends who to the person are kind,decent,loving human beings and that's why I support them wholeheartedly! You on the other hand sound mighty suspiciously guilty and your self hatred is evident! What's the matter,feeling so guilty and filled with such self hatred that you have to stay in that closet and keep remodeling it to make people think your not gay? It's OK little buddy,come on out,you'll be surprised at all the help that's there from the gay community!So again,are you gay also,I see many people accusing you of it so your post says the same about you! Are you gay? LOL
Is your gay cousin gonna do you up the butt today?
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Friend of Bill wrote:
<quoted text>Is your gay cousin gonna do you up the butt today?
No,but he told me you asked him to and he also said you were so damn ugly he wouldn't even consider it! Man,you must be one ugly mother!
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No,but he told me you asked him to and he also said you were so damn ugly he wouldn't even consider it! Man,you must be one ugly mother!
Did you know the average gay male consumes 22.68 lbs of fecal matter on an annual basis, kinda sick if you ask me?!?!
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<quoted text>Did you know the average gay male consumes 22.68 lbs of fecal matter on an annual basis, kinda sick if you ask me?!?!
Gays sure don't but we know you sure do! 3 times TOPIX champ running now isn't it? Does mommy know you're up past your bedtime? School in the morning!
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Gays sure don't but we know you sure do! 3 times TOPIX champ running now isn't it? Does mommy know you're up past your bedtime? School in the morning!
If you happen two see my buddy from Livermore, please tell him I said it's ok for him to come out of the closet and live his Chosen lifestyle as a gay man.

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Kimare...
Firstly, I doubt that any scientist ever said, "...a stubborn epi-marker from a parent may stick around and get passed on to an opposite-sex child, instilling Mom's fashion sense in Raul or Dad's baritone in Suzi."
Secondly, neither you nor I know for certain that epigenetics create homosexuality. For the time being it is a theory.
Thirdly, even if epigenetics do somehow play a role in making a child gay, that DOES NOT mean that the epi-gene "malfunctioned" in some way. For all you know, it could be just as natural as any other process that goes into creating human beings.
Fourth, you bring up the negative historical and cultural responses to gays--how one day you guys may be vindicated once you believe a "cure" (I use quotations to indicate how ridiculous such a concept is) is found.
As I said earlier, you're the kind of person who wants everyone to be the same. You want purity and harmony. You ARE Hitler.
In your narrow little world, there isn't any room for diversity. If a gay person pops up, you want to stamp him into non-existence by way of a scientific or religious cure.
Slave owners and segregationists also wanted a cure. They wanted those pesky blacks to know their place--to embrace their positions in life.
They prayed for it. They beat blacks into submission. They strung them up by their necks to set examples.
You are no different than any of them.
I don't say these things to be unkind. Rather, I say them to get your attention!
Fifth; to say that normally people want grandchildren is one of the most egotistical and self-centered comments you have made. Who gives a damn about what you may want? Once your children have become adults, it's simply none of your business how they proceed in life.
A TRUE parent loves their child REGARDLESS of how they turn out. A TRUE parent wants what their child wants; not what the parent wants.
And finally, you DO NOT quote what the scientists say. You're the one who has coined the terms "epi-marker defect" and "epi-marker mistake". You are the one who is putting words into scientist's mouths by saying that this epi-genetic theory represents a "birth defect".
Just because something is "abnormal" does not make it a mistake. Being red headed is "abnormal". Being left-handed is "abnormal". Being 6'10" is "abnormal". But these are not "birth defects".
A defect is something that negatively impacts a person's life. Being gay does not do that. Gay people exist all around your and carry on day-to-day lives without any trouble at all (except when they run into the likes of you).
You and people like you are the ones who try to characterize certain behaviors with a negative connotation.
Do you REALLY think that you glorify God when you attempt to marginalize gays and stir up anti-gay sentiment?
You judge us, even though you are commanded not to do so. You make conclusions about our lives, even though that is not the true Christian way.
Leave us alone. We're not bothering you. You're fighting a battle inside your head. No one is trying to "gay marry" you. No one is trying to convert you to homosexuality. We are not bothering you. Just let us live our lives and we'll all be much happier.
First, your argument isn't with me, take it up with MSNBC.

Second, everyone knows you have no argument when you resurrect Hitler and make ridiculous assertions about what I believe (slander).

Third, any true believer knows that love and truth are inseparable in the Christian faith. Again, if you were a professional social worker, you would understand the impact of denial.

Fourth, leave marriage and children alone. Imposing an imposter relationship on marriage will not fix your unhappiness.

Smile.

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Well its about freakin time these bigots finally woke up, and got a freakin job. If a man wants to marry another man i totally support that w all my heart and soul. Don't try to tell me what gay ppl can or can't do!!! These morons make me wanna throw up but I can't because I got a lot more threads I gotta let loose on, plus most of them are also about GAY RIGHTS DAMNIT!!!!!!....just wait til tomorrow u damn bigots ill be back to unleash a fiery hell that until tomorrow u could of only dreamt of.

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There you go again... Trying to sound all scientific. And you always seem to fail.
When you look up the term "epi marker abnormalities" this is what you get on google "No results found for "epi marker abnormalities".
Please stick to what you know best. You have already proven multiple times that you're no scientist; that you don't know what you're talking about.
You so badly and unsuccessfully attempt to explain these THEORIES that you only end up repeatedly making a fool of yourself.
Normally, things that aren't normal, are abnormal. This is why scientists are trying to understand homosexuality. It is also why no culture in human history has fully accepted homosexuality as normal.

How are you going to understand scientific information if you can't understand something as simple as that???

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Normally, things that aren't normal, are abnormal. This is why scientists are trying to understand homosexuality. It is also why no culture in human history has fully accepted homosexuality as normal.
How are you going to understand scientific information if you can't understand something as simple as that???
Snicker.
I'm on a fake profile here because I'm pretty sure the real ricardo fire annoys everyone on this forum. I just got done reading your arguments w this other person and I gotta say I would usually never get involved in someone else's beef, but this person is owning u so bad its pretty funny. You're not on the same intelligence level so y r u trying to sound intelligent. U think that by writing smile or snicker at the end of ur post that somehow it makes it better? U sound like u have a very low self-esteem and ur trying ur hardest to prove that you're right, but deep down inside u know that you're totally being owned. You're beef isn't w this other person, its with yourself homie. What about u is so insignificant, that other peoples sexuality, and rights threaten who u r? U should probably think hard about what is the actual root of your insecurities, and figure out how you're going to change that.

Snicker (nah jk I'm not as insecure as u r....Smile haha)
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<quoted text>Nah,wrong again moron! You see I believe that there is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay,and I've been married to the same women for 35 years with 3 grown kids! I have many gay friends who to the person are kind,decent,loving human beings and that's why I support them wholeheartedly! You on the other hand sound mighty suspiciously guilty and your self hatred is evident! What's the matter,feeling so guilty and filled with such self hatred that you have to stay in that closet and keep remodeling it to make people think your not gay? It's OK little buddy,come on out,you'll be surprised at all the help that's there from the gay community!So again,are you gay also,I see many people accusing you of it so your post says the same about you! Are you gay? LOL
You've been in the closet that long? Sweet. But you really do need to come out. It'd be a big weight lifted off your heart. As for me, I'm not in the closet, stupid, I'm openly gay. Come on out and play. LOL.

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I Love my PARTY. The Teaparty will support gays and lesbains doing what they need to do as long as dress right and you join us and agree to stopping all the damn give-aways and recognize the nTEAPARTY as the savior of the HOME land. When we dump the giveaway buffet out and force all the old sick bums to do the work they are given instead of waiting for $$$ and Drs and pilss ans surgery and godless social security and evil education above your given station in life and stop taxing the top dogs as they are top dogs cause they are top dogs. Once we have the whyte house back and the vote is in the bag, then no more free stuff ever. That is gods will. We will pass nothing nothing nothing until 2017 when we are back forever. Arm everyone and then we are equal. We need to see the election results on this pope thing.

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