Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 200,968

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Changes

Monrovia, CA

#180020 Feb 16, 2013
Does it have to get to Bell's level before anyone notices.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#180022 Feb 16, 2013
Changes wrote:
I thought they were told, must not understand nor can they read either.
Who was told?
What were they tol?

Like you, are "they" not able to express clear ideas?
Changes

Monrovia, CA

#180023 Feb 16, 2013
More than your little mind can fathom.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#180025 Feb 16, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>No, women weren't assigned to combat units, they've been assigned to support units. There are no women combat infantry troops because they can't pass the training tests.
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<quoted text>Many male support troops have died too, that doesn't mean they are qualified for combat.
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<quoted text>When you change the standards, to put women in front line combat troops, you change the conditions everyone knew when they volunteered, and create a different standard, they didn't volunteer for.
Putting women in combat troops will cause more death and injuries for all our troops, that's why I oppose gender equality in our armed forces.

Gender equality is ersatz equality, since no man can bear a child and no women can fertilize an ovum.
So what?
Many women can't bear a child, and many men can't fertilize an ovum. Our rights shouldn't depend on our reproduction abilities. Sterile people should be able to vote.

The physical standards for the military should be practical, and they should not be lowered just to allow some people in. I don't know what the current standards are, but I'm sure there are some women who can pass them, and many men who can't. Bet you can't.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#180026 Feb 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
So you are asserting that all government legislation is sane and legal?
All the states originally disallowed calling gay couples married. Were they ignorant as well?
Or, how about every culture in history?
Even if that's true (Can you name every culture in history?), it doesn't matter. You're just appealing to tradition and popularity. Logical fallacies.
KiMare wrote:
Smile.
Ignorance is bliss.
KiMare wrote:
Clearly you tried to stop and think. You failed, but I appreciate the effort...
You are confusing the action by an element of a culture (a legislative or legal body) with the culture as a whole. That also usually encompasses the whole history of that culture from start to end.
I simply noted that while marriage has been practiced and accepted from start to finish in every single culture in human history. Gay couples being acknowledged as such has yet to have that acceptance in a SINGLE culture in all of human history.
Snicker.
Yep, ignorance is bliss.
Da level

Monrovia, CA

#180027 Feb 16, 2013
The Glendora, California city council was shamed and slammed to the floor during their own "dog and pony" show the put on for the public at least twice a month.

The intelligence level doesn't raise much above the 3rd grade level.

February 12, 2013 at 7:00 P.M..

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#180028 Feb 16, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
Awwwwww.....that's so sweet Trollette....calling me "stupid"......but enough forplay....exactly. All men are treated the same as are all women.
<quoted text>
But men and women aren't treated the same. That's the issue, dummy.
Pietro Armando wrote:
Sigh.....Rosie....Rosie....Ro- seeeee.....the point is, which you already know, is there's no need to put urinals in the ladies room, or tampon dispensers in the men's room. Just because men and women are equal in the eyes of the law, doesn't mean everything needs to be the same.
Whatever.
That has nothing to do with the issue.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#180029 Feb 16, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
Even if that's true (Can you name every culture in history?), it doesn't matter. You're just appealing to tradition and popularity. Logical fallacies.
<quoted text>
Ignorance is bliss.
<quoted text>
Yep, ignorance is bliss.
Rosie No Ho Ho Ho Ho.....Merry Christmas.

It's an appeal to biology. Quite logical actually. No matter what acceptance there was, or is, of same sex sexual relations,in various places, it didn't automatically translate into marriage or other recognition of same sex unions.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#180030 Feb 16, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
So what?
Many women can't bear a child, and many men can't fertilize an ovum. Our rights shouldn't depend on our reproduction abilities. Sterile people should be able to vote.
As they can. Gay folks can marry too, just like everybody else. See equal treatment.
The physical standards for the military should be practical, and they should not be lowered just to allow some people in. I don't know what the current standards are, but I'm sure there are some women who can pass them, and many men who can't. Bet you can't.
Nor should the standards for marriage be lowered.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#180031 Feb 16, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
But men and women aren't treated the same. That's the issue, dummy.
When was your last prostate exam? If you haven't had one, by gosh, by golly, you call your doctor tomorrow, and demand one. Tell'em the President wants you to be treated equally.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#180032 Feb 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Not at all, only when it is related to research related to their own orientation. A clear conflict of interest that has proven to be biased.
Another example would be two lesbian researchers doing research on lesbian family studies. We all know where that led...
Smile.
By your "logic" any research done by straight people related to their own orientation is biased. There is a clear conflict of interest, right?
Frankie RIzzo

Union City, CA

#180034 Feb 16, 2013

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#180035 Feb 16, 2013
Rose_NoHo wrote:
<quoted text>
By your "logic" any research done by straight people related to their own orientation is biased. There is a clear conflict of interest, right?
Hardly, the lack of scientific methodology simply confirmed their bias.

Ho, Ho, Ho.
Neil Andblowme

Hoboken, NJ

#180036 Feb 16, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
Nor should the standards for marriage be lowered.
tsk, tsk, tsk.... that certainly doesn't sound pro polygamy.
Neil Andblowme

Hoboken, NJ

#180037 Feb 16, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
When was your last prostate exam? If you haven't had one, by gosh, by golly, you call your doctor tomorrow, and demand one. Tell'em the President wants you to be treated equally.
Right after you get a pap smear and a mamogram...
Neil Andblowme

Hoboken, NJ

#180038 Feb 16, 2013
Pietro Armando wrote:
<quoted text>
Do u expect adult insults with the moniker you've chosen?
I have no expectations for someone stupid enough to write: "after all there are just as many races as there are genders." You're just a garden variety dumbass.
Neil Andblowme

Hoboken, NJ

#180039 Feb 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
The Regnerus study was challenged and found to be the largest, most scientific study to date.
The study I noted was disqualified by peer review, not just for a small and selective study group with no comparisons, but with extremely dubious information collecting methods.
Here is a challenge; Find me a study that lists it's study methods and challenges the Regnerus findings.
Smile.
Oh puh-leez. The Regnerus' "study" is a textbook case of methodology mistakes.
Frankie RIzzo

Union City, CA

#180040 Feb 16, 2013
Neil Andblowme wrote:
<quoted text>Right after you get a pap smear and a mamogram...
You just made his point.

http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php...

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#180041 Feb 16, 2013
Neil Andblowme wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no expectations for someone stupid enough to write: "after all there are just as many races as there are genders." You're just a garden variety dumbass.
Isn't he great ladies and gentlemen....living proof that Darwin was right. Why would you think, assuming you can and that you haven't exhausted your limited intellectual storage conjuring up that clever moniker, why anyone, with any semblance of intelligence, would care what "Neil Andblowme" has to say?
de leveled

Monrovia, CA

#180042 Feb 16, 2013
I was told they plowed these "out of towners" BS under along time ago.

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