Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 | Posted by: Topix | Full story: www.cnn.com

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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<quoted text>Gender segregated institutions would be forced to deal with same sex marriage among staff and inmates; consider the consequences. We already have too much prison rape; same sex marriage could bring much worse; forced prison marriage. In our prisons, regulations control behavior. Those rules were created to keep sex out of prisons by gender segregating inmates.
Consent is problematic, at best, among the imprisoned and institutionalized. Not all marriage is based on love, people marry for economic and social advantage too. Don't bring more harm than good, out of legitimate sympathy for gay couples. Use your head, not your heart or random other parts...
So, let us know when members of the Ravens will be forced to marry each other! You did claim that members of professional sports teams would be forced to marry each other.
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What ever possed you to post something dum like that?
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He did. Next he'll counter with something entirely insane like "why don't you marry your gerbil while you're at it."
It never fails.
We just want to marry the person we love, and they have to bring in plural marriage because they have no argument against SSM, other than the fact that they find it "creepy"?
As for me, Kimare won't even let the missus look at me; he's afraid she'll turn lesbo when she sees me.
I'm sure that you are very funny in the real world, but not here... I said nothing about a gerbil, why would you ? Marriage is an institution that is reserved for 1 man and 1 woman. If we are to redefine marriage at all, why not alter the number of partners that are allowed ? Is it because your crowd doesn't care about true equality ?
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Yeah "they" sure are jackasses! You can't marry gerbils. They're for butts! But you should be allowed to marry who you want.
You aren't insisting on the traditional, arbitrary and discriminatory number of two while at the same time insisting gender is irrelevant. Are you?
Yes, they are. These biased, low IQ types pretending to be intelligent make me laugh my ass off. Supposedly intelligent discussions with chimps, that's all this is. If they weren't so wrapped up in acting superior, they might be able to see the true nature of equality insists on absolute freedom of choice(s)...Even now, they argue that SSM is the only valid form of marriage that counts as discriminated against. Forget having them be fair and unbiased about incest.....Only need 2 partners for that....Fits their parameters...But they would call THAT creepy....
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Frankie Rizzo wrote:
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Big D only whines when he considers my posts off topic. He is my personal topix cop. Ever vigilant!
He attempts to censor my posts because he doesn't like me. And that's all he's got since he cannot effectively rebut my posts. He gets frustrated and angry. Too funny!
...Angry midgets are hilarious....
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YUK!YUK!YUK!
No, you are wrong...You meant "hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha........hahaha "
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I am giving you one last chance. I am defending you against Rose, so you best not rile it up!
Look, man, I like it when you dog Chongo, but as to riling it up ? Collossall hilarity there. If you could just stick to one side, you might earn a couple of supporters, but you paste everyone. so get what you give. I warned you about that before...stick to one side and enjoy some camaraderie...
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I am defending him from Rose!
Randy -Rock- Hudson: 50.
Largelanguage: 59.
Rose_Noho: 56.


I appreciate the effort, but I require no protection from Chongo. I would rather you picked one side and stuck to it...Chongo (rose_no_ho) is insane.
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I suppose you aren't a child, as most kids would normally collapse after I've said those biting words! I will kill you off soon though!
But, please, you aren't going to kill anyone off.
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Yes, they are. These biased, low IQ types pretending to be intelligent make me laugh my ass off. Supposedly intelligent discussions with chimps, that's all this is. If they weren't so wrapped up in acting superior, they might be able to see the true nature of equality insists on absolute freedom of choice(s)...Even now, they argue that SSM is the only valid form of marriage that counts as discriminated against. Forget having them be fair and unbiased about incest.....Only need 2 partners for that....Fits their parameters...But they would call THAT creepy....
One man, one woman. Many SSM advocates insist the "man, women" part is irrelevant, but the "one" part is relevant. That seems hypocritical to me.

I support eliminating both restrictions. But they say I don't really, I am just trying to trick them!

The even more paranoid among them think I am a secret FUNDIE!

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<quoted text>Gender segregated institutions would be forced to deal with same sex marriage among staff and inmates; consider the consequences. We already have too much prison rape; same sex marriage could bring much worse; forced prison marriage. In our prisons, regulations control behavior. Those rules were created to keep sex out of prisons by gender segregating inmates.
Consent is problematic, at best, among the imprisoned and institutionalized. Not all marriage is based on love, people marry for economic and social advantage too. Don't bring more harm than good, out of legitimate sympathy for gay couples. Use your head, not your heart or random other parts...
You keep repeating unfounded rubbish about forced same sex marriages in prison with out one shred of supporting evidence that they would actually happen. Once again, give us some supporting argument that they'd actually occur. Kindly refrain from using your usual methods (bumper sticker slogans).
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Prove this is marriage's most basic essence.....what is your source for this 'fact'?
Otherwise state it clearly as your personal opinion/ wishful thinking.
1: Marriage is not a "right", it's a benefit society gives to a certain class of people.

2: Society gives the benefits of marriage to heterosexual couples because long experience shows that marriage of heterosexual couples carries a great number of benefits to society (for example: it civilizes men, making them more productive, and less foolhardy (and therefore less destructive)(see lowered car insurance rates for young males who marry)).

3: There is no evidence that homosexual marriage provides similar benefits to society.

4: Following the age old principle that intelligent agreements give benefits to both sides, it is therefore not in society's interest to give homosexual couples benefits that they haven't "earned".

Marriage is a contract. It's a contract between the people getting married. It's also a contract between, that couple. and the State. Valid contracts require that both sides get benefits. What is the benefit to society of giving a marriage contract to homosexual couples?

Until that's answered, there's no rational reason to give homosexual couples such a contract.
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No, you are wrong...You meant "hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha........hahaha "
For a minute there I thought you were Janey Doody!

He laughs just like that except I don't think his laugh is a real laugh.
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Same sex marriage in prison might cut down on prison rape.
Doubtful, since rape is a control issue, and prison is filled with dysfunctional people... Personally, I am leaning towards isolation cells for the duration of the term of any rapists...
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I don't get it. I thought the answer would be because it feels good.
I don't get the one about lions licking their asses either.
Or the one about morons and children.
That's because there's nothing to get...
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Jane Dodo wrote:
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You are certifiably insane.
Hey, Bovis, that's funny, coming from you....Mr.(or is it Ms.?) "Hahahahaha..Etc.."
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You clearly have NO idea who I am! Clearly just more of your wishful thinking....
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You are the dolt claiming your opinion is a 'basic fact' so you are the ONLY one who has any burden of proof. Get with it already....
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Yes, indeed.
It doesn't matter who you are, you are ignoring mating and evolutionary practices... So, you might as well admit that you are the dolt. Dolt. The burden of proof lies with you. We have biology and anatomy on our side. You have the burden to disprove the purposes of both.....Get busy, b!tch...

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1: Marriage is not a "right", it's a benefit society gives to a certain class of people.
2: Society gives the benefits of marriage to heterosexual couples because long experience shows that marriage of heterosexual couples carries a great number of benefits to society (for example: it civilizes men, making them more productive, and less foolhardy (and therefore less destructive)(see lowered car insurance rates for young males who marry)).
3: There is no evidence that homosexual marriage provides similar benefits to society.
4: Following the age old principle that intelligent agreements give benefits to both sides, it is therefore not in society's interest to give homosexual couples benefits that they haven't "earned".
Marriage is a contract. It's a contract between the people getting married. It's also a contract between, that couple. and the State. Valid contracts require that both sides get benefits. What is the benefit to society of giving a marriage contract to homosexual couples?
Until that's answered, there's no rational reason to give homosexual couples such a contract.


The litmus test is simply this: when same sex couples can marry, what do heterosexual couples lose? Really, how is your marriage any less valid?

That's why this is called marriage equality, because everyone wins and nobody loses.

I could easily argue your other points, bit there's really no reason to do so. Besides, it's going to happen anyway.

Just ask my Kimare.
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<quoted text>Then imagine how same sex marriage might change power dynamics in a witches coven, if you can get your mind away from thinking of lesbian sex. Same sex marriage would change society in a big way; convents and covens used to be refuges from sex and marriage but gender segregation marriage brings that issue home.
Not all lesbians favor redefining marriage; some like it the old fashioned way, the way it was for their mom and dad.
Perhaps, but they have always been much more than that...
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Forced prison marriages? Use YOUR head, Brian. There's no such thing as forced prison marriages. It's a figment of your demented imagination.
And I suppose that prison b!tches are all consensual, as well, right ? As well as this forum being fair and balanced, right ? As well as you being the smart one in the room, right ? That's about as much bullshit as anyone can type....You're a grade "A" moron and anyone can see that, from the sheer volume of bullshit that you type.

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