Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

Aug 4, 2010 Full story: www.cnn.com 201,189

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#177810 Jan 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes. It's arbitrary, discriminatory and an indefensible denial of individual choice just like gender.
Instead of implying "It's not! you're dumb!" tell us why it is not, Miss Thing.
Look up the word arbitrary, dipshit.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#177811 Jan 31, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly where are polygamists granted "equal rights," except in your mind?
They are NOT granted equal rights Miss Thing. That is what I am trying to get into your thick head!

You are such a dummy!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#177812 Jan 31, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>
Look up the word arbitrary, dipshit.
No need. I know what it means. Let me use it in a sentence! Specifying number in a marriage is just as ARBITRARY as specifying gender.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#177813 Jan 31, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell you what, let me read the text of the case you are bringing to the supreme court and I will weigh in on it.
Or heck, the case you are bringing to any state legislature?
Or Ballot measure
do you have that? Or are you a long nut on an internet forum?
Again, in your dopey head there has to be a case before SCOTUS in order to believe people should have equal rights?

That's a dopey argument.

There will be some day.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#177814 Jan 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Proposition 8 places the force of law behind stigmas against gays and lesbians, including: gays and lesbians do not have intimate relationships similar to heterosexual couples; gays and lesbians are not as good as heterosexuals; and gay and lesbian relationships do not deserve the full recognition of society.
Let's replace "gays and lesbians" with "polyamorists" and see how it looks-
Proposition 8 places the force of law behind stigmas against polyamorists, including: polyamorists do not have intimate relationships similar to monogamous people; polyamorists are not as good as homosexuals; and poly relationships do not deserve the full recognition of society.
Do you agree with that?
That isnít a ballot measure or text of a court case

show me the official stuff you are representing, ballot measure, or court case text.

I am not going to agree with something like that until I see the official text you are bringing to court.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#177815 Jan 31, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
You just wish you were a child!
( I wish I was one too )
No one cares jackass. Least of all me.

To get back on topic, on what grounds and by what logic do you insist on the traditional, arbitrary and discriminatory number of two?
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#177816 Jan 31, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
That isnít a ballot measure or text of a court case
show me the official stuff you are representing, ballot measure, or court case text.
I am not going to agree with something like that until I see the official text you are bringing to court.
Again. Your insistence there must be a court case in order to discuss the legality of poly is stupid.

Your hobby is astronomy. Do you talk about space travel with your friends? Stop it. That's not allowed! You are not traveling in space so you cannot discuss it!

What a dope!
Big D

Modesto, CA

#177817 Jan 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
Proposition 8 places the force of law behind stigmas against gays and lesbians, including: gays and lesbians do not have intimate relationships similar to heterosexual couples; gays and lesbians are not as good as heterosexuals; and gay and lesbian relationships do not deserve the full recognition of society.
Let's replace "gays and lesbians" with "polyamorists" and see how it looks-
Proposition 8 places the force of law behind stigmas against polyamorists, including: polyamorists do not have intimate relationships similar to monogamous people; polyamorists are not as good as homosexuals; and poly relationships do not deserve the full recognition of society.
Do you agree with that?
I will tell you that I have no problem with it in principal, but I am very untrusting of some of the most vocal adherents of it.

It through no fault of its own, has a steeper hill to climb than Homosexual marriage in the public eye, because of the activities of the most vocal, and the most fierce adherents of it. The religious overtones of it, and their defiance of our nations laws.

I honestly do not think anything will come of it for the next couple of decades, not because it is inherently wrong, but because of the activities of most adherents of it.

The concept I have no issue with, as long as everything is consensual.
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#177818 Jan 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
They are NOT granted equal rights Miss Thing. That is what I am trying to get into your thick head!
You are such a dummy!
Ok.... maybe if I type slowly....

Where in the Constitution is the guarantee of equal rights?
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#177819 Jan 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
No need. I know what it means. Let me use it in a sentence! Specifying number in a marriage is just as ARBITRARY as specifying gender.
Arbitrary: Based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.

Are you really going to sit there and say that the reason polygamy is illegal is arbitrary? Even though the topic was adjudicated by SCOTUS? Maybe you don't like the reason SCOTUS gave, but that hardly makes it arbitrary.
Big D

Modesto, CA

#177820 Jan 31, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>Ok.... maybe if I type slowly....
Where in the Constitution is the guarantee of equal rights?
I donít know why we are humoring him on this... it has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at hand, and the courtís decision will have no effect on this.

I am not complaining at you, I am doing it to... why are we humoring him on this?
SmackoS

Monrovia, CA

#177821 Jan 31, 2013
The double S for you too.
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#177822 Jan 31, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I donít know why we are humoring him on this... it has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at hand, and the courtís decision will have no effect on this.
I am not complaining at you, I am doing it to... why are we humoring him on this?
I get a good laugh from reading his ridiculous replies.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#177823 Jan 31, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
That isnít a ballot measure or text of a court case
show me the official stuff you are representing, ballot measure, or court case text.
I am not going to agree with something like that until I see the official text you are bringing to court.
I'm not bringing a text to court jackass. But since you wish you could make it a requirement to allow me to discuss marriage rights, show me the official text YOU are bringing to court.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#177824 Jan 31, 2013
Jane Dodo wrote:
<quoted text>I get a good laugh from reading his ridiculous replies.
YUK!YUK!YUK!

That's a real dopey dodge! Try harder.

Why do you feel poly marriage doesn't deserve the same consideration as same sex marriage?

Please don't say "because it's illegal"! That is a ridiculous reply.
The hooders

Monrovia, CA

#177825 Jan 31, 2013
An aide to Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi claims that the Holocaust was a hoax.

This is what you get for letting the muslim brotherhood take control.
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#177826 Jan 31, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I donít know why we are humoring him on this... it has nothing whatsoever to do with the subject at hand, and the courtís decision will have no effect on this.
I am not complaining at you, I am doing it to... why are we humoring him on this?
I dunno. Please tell us. Is it because you're too stupid to respond intelligently? Yeah. That's it!
Frankie Rizzo

Union City, CA

#177827 Jan 31, 2013
Big D wrote:
<quoted text>
I will tell you that I have no problem with it in principal, but I am very untrusting of some of the most vocal adherents of it.
It through no fault of its own, has a steeper hill to climb than Homosexual marriage in the public eye, because of the activities of the most vocal, and the most fierce adherents of it. The religious overtones of it, and their defiance of our nations laws.
I honestly do not think anything will come of it for the next couple of decades, not because it is inherently wrong, but because of the activities of most adherents of it.
The concept I have no issue with, as long as everything is consensual.
I'm not asking you when you think it will go to court. Or who objects to it.

And I'm not asking you to relate your ignorance and bigotry, it shows in your ignorant bigoted comments about "it's adherents". That does give a good hint about your opinion of it's legalization though.

I am asking you if you support equality for poly MARRIAGE the same as you support equality for SAME SEX MARRIAGE.

It's a simple question. You and Janey Doody have evaded it and dodged it and straw manned it for way too long. Do you believe in equality or not? Spill the beans Big Dope!
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#177828 Jan 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
I dunno. Please tell us. Is it because you're too stupid to respond intelligently? Yeah. That's it!
How would you know? You have shitty reading comprehension.
Jane Dodo

Hoboken, NJ

#177829 Jan 31, 2013
Frankie Rizzo wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not asking you when you think it will go to court. Or who objects to it.
And I'm not asking you to relate your ignorance and bigotry, it shows in your ignorant bigoted comments about "it's adherents". That does give a good hint about your opinion of it's legalization though.
I am asking you if you support equality for poly MARRIAGE the same as you support equality for SAME SEX MARRIAGE.
It's a simple question. You and Janey Doody have evaded it and dodged it and straw manned it for way too long. Do you believe in equality or not? Spill the beans Big Dope!
Why are you so intent on hijacking this thread?

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