Should The City of Hemet Outsource their police department?

Created by Tom B on Aug 4, 2011

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Jon

United States

#104 Dec 22, 2012
five o wrote:
<quoted text>you sound like an RSO groupie or cheerleader....jeez. and as for your physical fitness statement if you knew anything you would know they are the same, and most HPD officers went through san bernardinos academy which is harder than RSO's. numbnutt
Actually, no. Lol! Stop acting like you know the scoop.
five o

Los Angeles, CA

#105 Jan 8, 2013
Jon wrote:
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Actually, no. Lol! Stop acting like you know the scoop.
I grew up living in the City of Hemet for 16 years, and have been a cop for 22 years now, that combined with having started my career with RSO "i know the scoop"
JR

Hemet, CA

#106 Jan 8, 2013
five o wrote:
<quoted text>I grew up living in the City of Hemet for 16 years, and have been a cop for 22 years now, that combined with having started my career with RSO "i know the scoop"
You're also a douche bag
five o

Los Angeles, CA

#107 Jan 10, 2013
JR wrote:
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You're also a douche bag
yep, i was used by your moma and your sister, Junior
JR

Hemet, CA

#110 Jan 11, 2013
JRs daddy wrote:
<quoted text>I got out of hemet son, I guess you were not able too, have fun and good luck in the hood! dumbazz
Five 0 is playing secret agent. Changing his name...you should change your name to Dumbo Columbo ya fathead.

And speaking about 'hood', you're posting from Los Angeles. Big step up out of Hemet. You got family in Compton?

At least you are posting from your home computer. I would hate to think OUR tax money is paying for your pompous ass to play on Topix.
dumbo columbo JR

Los Angeles, CA

#111 Jan 14, 2013
pompous ass, wow big words for an Allesandro drop out
seed

United States

#112 Jan 14, 2013
Word of advice: don't bite the hand that feeds you. Not many cops have your background
KevS

United States

#113 Jan 14, 2013
Yes it should be outsourced to RSO. Hemet PD officers are a lazy bunch. Fire them all and go with sheriffs. Not much better, but better than nothing.
RSO-covered-LOL

Hemet, CA

#114 Jan 14, 2013
KevS wrote:
Yes it should be outsourced to RSO. Hemet PD officers are a lazy bunch. Fire them all and go with sheriffs. Not much better, but better than nothing.
I honestly hope you are just trying to "stir things up" here. Because you have ZERO idea of what you are talking about. Give me one instance of HPD being "lazy", and give me an example of how RSO's thinly-stretched, reduced force would be "better" for Hemet. Did you see the article in the paper about RSO layoffs and hiring freezes?
I live in an RSO "covered" area, and I might as well wait for the next ice age when it comes to RSO response times here. No problem. I have already notified RSO that I will call the Coroner to clean up any potential "mess" of a burglary/robbery/theft/whateve r at my home, versus waiting for an RSO "sherrif" to show up. I haven't even seen one patrolling in the last 3 PLUS months.
Come on

Hemet, CA

#115 Jan 15, 2013
RSO-covered-LOL wrote:
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I honestly hope you are just trying to "stir things up" here. Because you have ZERO idea of what you are talking about. Give me one instance of HPD being "lazy", and give me an example of how RSO's thinly-stretched, reduced force would be "better" for Hemet. Did you see the article in the paper about RSO layoffs and hiring freezes?
I live in an RSO "covered" area, and I might as well wait for the next ice age when it comes to RSO response times here. No problem. I have already notified RSO that I will call the Coroner to clean up any potential "mess" of a burglary/robbery/theft/whateve r at my home, versus waiting for an RSO "sherrif" to show up. I haven't even seen one patrolling in the last 3 PLUS months.
Doesn't work the same way. Cities pay for officers with RSO, can't compare a county area which only gets minimal coverage versus a city who pays for how many cops they want. Nice try though.
taxpayer

United States

#116 Jan 15, 2013
Has HPD found the people who stabbed that poor 16 year old? No? Ok we'll just wait.
Police

Los Angeles, CA

#117 Jan 16, 2013
taxpayer wrote:
Has HPD found the people who stabbed that poor 16 year old? No? Ok we'll just wait.
why would hemet PD handle? it happened in the unincorporated area, RSO's handle. you should shut up if you don't know what you are talking about.

and to use a poor youths death for your own agenda against HPD is really sad.
insaneclown

Hemet, CA

#118 Jan 17, 2013
Come on wrote:
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Doesn't work the same way. Cities pay for officers with RSO, can't compare a county area which only gets minimal coverage versus a city who pays for how many cops they want. Nice try though.
My point is this...if RSO can't effectively cover unincorporated areas of RivCo anymore, how can anyone expect them to cover Hemet? RivCo's budget is WAY farther in the red than Hemet's, HPD officers have taken paycuts, reduced benefits, and are paying more for their retirement. All in an effort to save their department.
Not sure about what RSO officers have given to save their jobs.
Look at San Jacinto and Temecula...both have recently had ideas to drop RSO due to increased costs (or decreased services), and start their own PD's again. Why would Hemet follow their mistakes? Times are hard now, the economy sucks, and "non-violent" prisoners are being released early (at an alarming rate) due to overcrowding in State prisons. Is this REALLY the time to sign on with a financially struggling County agency? I do not think that would be in Hemet's best interest. HPD officers know the streets, know the "elements", and have "been there, done that" for a long time. New HPD officers are on the street, training with FTO's right now. There are more in the Academy. HPD should have a couple new cops on the beat within the next month or two. And a few more again by August or so. I know that seems like a long time away, but training new officers is not an overnight deal. HPD is "rebuilding", and has earned the right to a fair chance before disbanding and paying MORE for LESS with RSO. Just my opinion, and not putting down RSO officers. The tactics of RSO's leaders are what I would question. They "take over" with a short initial contract, then raise the price or cut services in the next contract. The same can be said for CalFire.
RSO-covered-LOL

Hemet, CA

#119 Jan 17, 2013
I should have changed my name "insaneclown" back to "RSO-covered-LOL" before posting the last comment. Sorry. At least I admit to changing my name according to the topic at hand. And I have no idea how to change my location...have tried, no luck.
jeff stones greedy

Los Angeles, CA

#120 May 15, 2013
RIVERSIDE — Riverside County supervisors Tuesday signed off on a sheriff’s department request to hike the rates charged to cities and other contract entities for the use of patrol deputies and other personnel.

In a 4-0 vote, with Supervisor Jeff Stone absent, the Board of Supervisors approved the rate increases, retroactive to July 1, 2012, which sheriff’s officials say are needed to recoup higher operational costs incurred by the department over the past year.

Under the revised rate schedule, the cost of a sheriff’s patrol deputy will rise from $126.74 per hour to $132.69 — a 4.69 percent jump from the previous fiscal year.

The increase reflects higher labor expenses and the costs associated with support functions, including supervisors and administrators. The cost of staff benefits are also priced into the figures.

Higher extra-duty pay rates for other sworn and non-sworn personnel were included in the revised rate schedule. According to sheriff’s officials, cities and other contracting parties will only be billed for those expenses if they choose to expand their public safety staffs beyond the number called for under their law enforcement services agreements.

According to the plan, the cost of an additional sheriff’s patrol corporal will increase from $135.53 per hour to $141.15 per hour, or about 4.15 percent; an additional sheriff’s investigator from $69.13 to $73.17, or 5.84 percent; and an additional school resource officer from $68.22 to $73.51, or about 8 percent.

In several instances, costs for contingency personnel will go down. The hourly rate of a sheriff’s captain will fall from $120.51 to $116.23 per hour, a 3.5 percent drop; a lieutenant from $106.03 to $102.96, a 3 percent dip; and a sergeant from $92.39 to $89.45, also 3 percent lower.
brb

Highland, CA

#121 May 15, 2013
lets switch them from traditional pensions and give em 401k's like everybody else.. that should save some cash

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