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Blue

Mesa, AZ

#21 Dec 22, 2013
CHRIS wrote:
Is this city water?, if so who's the supplier? Eastern Municiple?(EMWD)
Yes it is city and yes it is Eastern Municipal Water District.
CHRIS

Murrieta, CA

#22 Dec 23, 2013
just curious,have you replaced the shower head and(or)faucets?
Blue

United States

#23 Dec 25, 2013
CHRIS wrote:
just curious,have you replaced the shower head and(or)faucets?
I changed the shower head after the discovery of this black stuff. In fact I just unscrewed the massage/multiple settings shower head and it is still sitting in the pitcher caked with that black stuff. Prior to I switched it about 18 months ago.

The kitchen faucet it has been about 3 yrs I think since it was installed.

You know what I find odd after all of this...I still have not gotten an answer as to what this stuff is? I mean if the water company tested it and was so baffled by it than doesn't it seem odd that I can not get an answer to even an educated guess.

And what is it exactly that has this kind if reaction when it is introduced to bleach?

Just seems like I can't be discoverying something completely foreign and unknown.

Crazy mystery that I hope will be identified soon.
Thanks again for your time. Happy holidays!
CHRIS

Murrieta, CA

#24 Dec 26, 2013
Table 4: Common Aesthetic Water Quality Problems and Solutions
Problem
Cause
Solutions
Individuals on sodium-restricted diets should consult their physician before drinking artificially softened water. Iron and manganese can also be removed by a softener, provided the water is not too hard.

Hard water (scales/deposits in kettles and water heaters) Excess calcium Water softenersIndividuals on sodium-restricted diets should consult their physician before drinking artificially softened water. Iron and manganese can also be removed by a softener, provided the water is not too hard.
Reverse osmosis
Distillation
Rusty (red to brown) staining of fixtures and laundry and/or metallic taste Excess iron Chlorination-filtration
Greensand filtration
Aeration-filtration
Distillation
Black staining of fixtures and laundry and/or metallic taste Excess manganese Chlorination-filtration
Greensand filtration
Aeration-filtration
Distillation
Rotten egg smell Hydrogen sulphide Chlorination-filtration
Greensand filtration
Aeration-filtration
Water has laxative effect Excess sulphates Reverse osmosis
Distillation
Turbidity/grittiness Mud/silt/clay/sediment in water Sediment filters
Organic (tea) colour Tannins Chlorination-filtration
Ozonation-filtration
CHRIS

Murrieta, CA

#25 Dec 26, 2013
I'm thinking probably high manganese, which a chlorination filtration is recommended, But I would be on EMWD Until they give you some anwser's,
Blue

Mesa, AZ

#26 Dec 29, 2013
CHRIS wrote:
I'm thinking probably high manganese, which a chlorination filtration is recommended, But I would be on EMWD Until they give you some anwser's,
Thanks Chris...I wish there was someone there at EMWD or somewhere that could tell me what it is and how it may effect the health of my pets and myself.

If I asked you to rate this on a scale of 1-10 ten being the highest concern what would be your answer?

I am in total shock that no one else seems to take me seriously or can step in here and make something happen. Not even the landlord!

I sincerely appreciate your time Chris it is very valuable.
CHRIS

Murrieta, CA

#27 Dec 30, 2013
Blue wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks Chris...I wish there was someone there at EMWD or somewhere that could tell me what it is and how it may effect the health of my pets and myself.
If I asked you to rate this on a scale of 1-10 ten being the highest concern what would be your answer?
I am in total shock that no one else seems to take me seriously or can step in here and make something happen. Not even the landlord!
I sincerely appreciate your time Chris it is very valuable.
I wouldn't drink it i would use bottled water
Blue

United States

#28 Jan 16, 2014
CHRIS wrote:
<quoted text>I wouldn't drink it i would use bottled water
Hi Chris,
Well it seems that my landlord isn't taking this matter with any worth. Seems to think that there isn't a situation since he has not addressed it after sending photos and test results to him.
EMWD says its the property owners resoonsiblity since water coming into home tested fine.
So I ask these questions, who do I contact to get something done?
I noticed this morning that the dirt under the rock in the backyard is black and moist in areas and there has not been any rain nor has that hose been turned on in weeks. Specifically about 10ft straight out from where the hose bib is on the back wall. That back wall has discoloration in a portion of it from the ground up and th stucco is bubbled and flakes off in those areas where it seems there is water being soaked up the wall.
From what I understand those are signs that there could be a broken pipe. That back wall where the black moist dirt is and hose bib is also the location of both bathrooms.
I wonder if there is any information out there that supports the reaction that I got, the black substance, when just adding bleach to the water and soaking the water fixture?
Since I removed the old showerhead and replaced it with another when I discovered this I wonder if I will get the same results if I soak the new showerhead in bleach and water today?
Something has to be done. I fear that if I should move it will not be addressed and the next tenant will come into to an unknown situation that is really not visible unless you know what I do. I mean seniors, children, and even pets would drink it and cook and bath in it just like I did for 2 years and never think that there is a water issue here.
Blue

Los Angeles, CA

#29 Jan 17, 2014
Today I put the new showerhead that I just put on about 2-3 months ago in water and bleach. Bingo! Got the same result as I did with previous showerhead. Looking down the hose the black stuff is stuck to the walls of the hose. It's a white hose with white rubber rings.
What I would give to just know what in the world this black stuff is. Ugh!
Chris

Murrieta, CA

#30 Jan 20, 2014
Well It sound's like you have a real winner of a landlord, first I would Ask A Question of how much your willing to go through versus moving.I Agree,If You move It Will Ultimately Become someone else's problem. But One Place to start Is The Department of consumer affairs http://www.dca.ca.gov/ or the department of fair housing http://www.dfeh.ca.gov/FairHousing101.htm Good Luck!
James Marple

San Diego, CA

#31 Jan 25, 2014
the two sites Chris provided are good.

John Hunneman of the Press-Enterprise may help your cause.

The Better Business Bureau websites may also.

Someone at this site should answer your qestions.

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic/drinkingwater/...

We pay them very well to provide us with expert advice.

jamesmarple66 at yahoo.com
BLUE

Menifee, CA

#32 Jan 27, 2014
James Marple wrote:
the two sites Chris provided are good.
John Hunneman of the Press-Enterprise may help your cause.
The Better Business Bureau websites may also.
Someone at this site should answer your qestions.
http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic/drinkingwater/...
We pay them very well to provide us with expert advice.
jamesmarple66 at yahoo.com
Thank you so much for time and very valuable information. I am shocked that my landlord has NOT addressed the serious matter. I just hope that someone will pursue this and enforce stiff penalties.

Any additional assistance would be greatly appreciated. I can't stand up to deep pockets and/or question answers that I receive when I don't know if its a correct answer. It had to come to this for me to say hey I brought this to your attention last year and you blew me off saying something about its just a breakdown of a seal...Its nothing. I trusted that answer and continued to drink this stuff and feed it to my animals....daily...but always mixed it with like crystal powder flavor drink mix.
yuck! Makes me wonder if it is a living thing since it bubbles and kinda moves the mass throughout the hose line.

I will keep you posted....wish me luck I need all I can get.
Chris

Murrieta, CA

#33 Feb 4, 2014
I wouldn't recommend drinking that water, get some 5 gal sparkletts type bottles, and fill them,That's what I do.Even with a fresh re-pipe my water is really hard right out of the tap. Another good site James I agree, Well Good Luck Blue,Let us know how it goes.
James Marple

San Diego, CA

#34 Feb 9, 2014
Blue

We of the Citizens for Responsble Watershed Management
would like to see your post that was deleted.
jamesmarple66 at yahoo dot com
During the '90s our comments to public forums were routinely
trashed by persons identified by computer techs and title
companies as agents of private sponsors who sought to
disrupt discussion of land-water-energy issues.

Major newspapers allowed this and when we persisted in
presenting falcts-figures made our membership too
diffucult to maintain.
A private online forum in Lake Elsinore was targeted by a
fatal virus when we discussed the hazard generated by the
850 billion gallons of water in Diamond Valley Lake. But our
effort was not wasted. MWD reduced the capacity of that
reservoir by 50 billion gallons as our engineers recommended,
so it became less likely to cause catastrophic flooding when
the overdue "Superquake" hits the San Jacinto fault.

The apparent lack of interest from your landlord and water district
has opened the door for a successful lawsuit but they are confident
that their insurance company lawyers will defend them.
Judges have been known to allow punitive damages for neligence
that cause insured persons significant pain, however.

Water district managers are not much concerned because they have
public money to burn and are certain the public wont become agitated
enough to vote politicians out of office for allowing mismanagement
that causes everyone's water bill to rise.

A note to your landlord's insurance company will cause its agents
to take interest if they are normally capable and conscientious. Unfortunately, if they raise his rates for knowing disregard of a
health hazard he can raise your rent to cover it.

And for certain do not drink, tub-bathe in or swim in your water.
It is contaminated by MWD-imported water bearing sewage effluent
from miillions of homes plus complex chemical compounds, as
we've detailed on San Diego's Union=Tribune political forum.
Fitz

Torrance, CA

#35 Apr 8, 2014
I first looked at these comments because I have a parent living near these city's and he is very sick. Doctors have done every kind of test. He has now been diagnosed with MDS. He has lost so much weight in the past year and had many transfusion and hospital stays. The information and comments from Chris have given some hope that maybe I can find out the cause of my fathers illness. I am thinking its in his water. I will call a contractor and ask more questions. If anyone has more input about any sickness possible related to the water in the area I would like to know them.
Chris

Murrieta, CA

#37 Apr 30, 2014
It's odd how this topic disappears,and re-appears? I'm curious, if you found out anything blue?
James Marple

San Diego, CA

#38 May 3, 2014
This topic does not please the local power structure.
That may have something to do with its disappearances.

Two decades ago a local land developer bought five SE County newspapers in order to use the threat of transferring advertising to them to keep the Californian from publishing a series of articles written for it by the Citizens for Responsible Watershed Management.
These papers were used to politically assassinate primary members of CRWM while a corrupted Supervisor and Chief Engineer trashed its Comprehensive Watershed Management Plan that federal and state officials were formulating to provide a plentiful, reliable supply of pure water to all homes at less than they were paying at the time.

The Rancho and Murrieta water district managers were pushed out of office with false accusations and baseless rumors in these papers because they were cooperating fully in this planning.
So now all residents use grossly contaminated river water of MWD because their aquifers are not kept recharged by their own rainwater.

Massive extortion of local wealth was achieved by the persons who gained control of Southeastern Riverside County's water supply and now the perps are pushing for unnecessary flood control planning
that would be wholly unnecessaary if federal planning is used.

RivCo DA Zellerback did not enforce State law requring that all storm waters be guided into aquifers with LID and BMP planning. Why not?
That's all it would take to provide ample pure water to all homes
and fix problems like Blue is faced with.
Subee

Menifee, CA

#39 Aug 3, 2014
We having dark water come today August 3. 2014. Our hous is almost nine years old. We have plastic type pipes. We're in Barrington Heights / Ashton Hills homes.
James Marple

San Diego, CA

#41 Aug 4, 2014
Subee
My last comment in error.
One of my persons removed last post from queue to be sent.
Your black water may be doe to any ov several factors discussed
on this thread. Disconnetiing inlet pipe from meter and flushing
back through each faucet with a non-toxic but powerful
"algae-killer for an "extended time" may fix this a plumber
tells me. Followed by lengthy running of water through each
faucet one at a time of course.

Electing competent, honest officials and then keeping them
supplied with facts and figures to counteract the garbage data
they get from agency manager and PR people of local water
districts would bring you plentiful cheap pure wellwater within
as soon as a year, according to the Professional Engineers
who advise me. A tech would be sent out to correct your
water problems if capable politicians directed the agency.

Our PEs point out that Riverside County, city and water district
'experts' do whatever they can to keep 220,000 residents of your
area too confused, distracted and badly informed to be able to
choose competent, honest officials. Good politicians would
jeopardize their income and job security. News sources are
wittholding critical information and spinning news stories to
keep 'politically correct' politicians in control of local affairs.

Good government that reverses the upward trend of your tax and
costs will only come when enough citizens sit down and inform
themselves of the basics from sources outside of California.
The costs of water/energy should be going down because of
more efficient equipment-methods now available, but entrenched
agency managers do their level best to preserve the status quo
of outdated planning to prevent reduction of their influence and to
please the business secotr that collaborates with them to keep
the public and politicians dumbed down so that their wealth can
be stolen through governemnt.

Every public information source has been compromised, presents
only what the land-water-energy profiteers want voters to see, so
if you and neighbors want pure water and good service at less cost
then you'll have to form a body of tough concerned citizens to find
and evaluate information in cooperation with universtiy experts and
federal officials. The guy with the best data wins, and that requires
a dozen sensible people who form committees to reseaarch each
angle, discuss their findings, and summarize these to the others.

Its a lot to ask of anyone, but kids do not deserve to be born with
damaged brain cells replicating themselves for life.(Toxins in
imported water accumulate in the brain of a new fetus after passing
through the skin a a mother-to-be). A single particle damaging DNA
in a cell will cause this to be replicated in very celll that follows.

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