New Precedent Set in Episcopal Church...

New Precedent Set in Episcopal Church Property Settlement Wars

There are 26 comments on the www.virtueonline.org story from Dec 23, 2010, titled New Precedent Set in Episcopal Church Property Settlement Wars. In it, www.virtueonline.org reports that:

In a landmark decision, the Episcopal Diocese of New Jersey has settled out of court with St. George's Helmetta allowing the parish to leave the Episcopal Church, keep its property and join with another Anglican jurisdiction.

Details are sketchy, but it is understood from a source that a down payment of $30,000 was made by the parish with periodic payments to be made over the next several years ...

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“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#1 Dec 23, 2010
from virtueonline:

"The parish will retain all its church buildings and tangible property with complete independence from The Episcopal Church (TEC). The congregation has affiliated with the Convocation of Anglicans in North America (CANA) under Missionary Bishop Martyn Minns and the Anglican Church in North America (ACNA) under Archbishop Robert Duncan."

Since: Jun 07

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#2 Dec 23, 2010
They figured out the Thou Shalt Not Steal part...very good. Progress has been made.

“... truth will out.”

Since: May 08

Stratford, Connecticut.

#3 Dec 24, 2010
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
They figured out the Thou Shalt Not Steal part ...
No, they took their cue from the Lutherans and Presbyterians, not TEC PB and her lawyers.

And they did it just in time for Christmas.

“Ecce! Sic transit gloria mundi”

Since: Oct 10

I See New Jerusalem From Here.

#4 Dec 27, 2010
This suggest that the property may be in the process of being sold by TEC to the non-Episcopalian group.

In time, this will all end up in front of the US Supreme Court. On that day, the Church of Rome will side with TEC and fight to make sure the a 'diocese' or 'congregation' can't walk away with 'church' assets.

Be afraid Joe! They robbers are coming your way. If these rulings are used by the dissatisfied members of your own Church of Rome against your bishops can you imagine the chaos? Oh happy day when the shoe is on your foot! LMAO
Think Again

Raeford, NC

#5 Dec 27, 2010
T McCabe wrote:
This suggest that the property may be in the process of being sold by TEC to the non-Episcopalian group.
In time, this will all end up in front of the US Supreme Court. On that day, the Church of Rome will side with TEC and fight to make sure the a 'diocese' or 'congregation' can't walk away with 'church' assets.
Be afraid Joe! They robbers are coming your way. If these rulings are used by the dissatisfied members of your own Church of Rome against your bishops can you imagine the chaos? Oh happy day when the shoe is on your foot! LMAO
The structure of the RCC is quite different from TEC. The diocese of the RCC hold the deeds to the parishes. TEC made a land grab back in 1979 of their own but many individual parishes still hold the deeds.

Apples and oranges.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#6 Dec 28, 2010
Think Again wrote:
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The structure of the RCC is quite different from TEC. The diocese of the RCC hold the deeds to the parishes. TEC made a land grab back in 1979 of their own but many individual parishes still hold the deeds.
Apples and oranges.
They are all fruit, did you miss that part in your kentucky creation class?

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#7 Dec 28, 2010
I wonder why the split between CANA and ACNA?

You mean the 'orthodox' and 'conservatives' can't agree?

LMAO!

“Ecce! Sic transit gloria mundi”

Since: Oct 10

I See New Jerusalem From Here.

#8 Dec 28, 2010
MiddleWay wrote:
I wonder why the split between CANA and ACNA?
You mean the 'orthodox' and 'conservatives' can't agree?
LMAO!
It is those Purity Codes that get them every time!

Truly the devil is in the detail.

LMAO!
Think Again

Raeford, NC

#9 Dec 28, 2010
MiddleWay wrote:
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They are all fruit, did you miss that part in your kentucky creation class?
Yes but one is citrus and one is pome. Different families and different tastes.
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Raeford, NC

#10 Dec 28, 2010
MiddleWay wrote:
I wonder why the split between CANA and ACNA?
You mean the 'orthodox' and 'conservatives' can't agree?
LMAO!
They are still "ministry partners," similar to being in communion with one another.
Think Again

Raeford, NC

#11 Dec 28, 2010
T McCabe wrote:
<quoted text>
It is those Purity Codes that get them every time!
Truly the devil is in the detail.
LMAO!
Not purity codes but women's ordination.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#12 Dec 29, 2010
Think Again wrote:
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Not purity codes but women's ordination.
You'd better brush up on the prophecy of Joel, also repeated in ACTS:
JOEL 2
28 ďAnd afterward,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and **********daughters will prophesy,
your old men will dream dreams,
your young men will see visions.
29 Even on my servants, both men **********and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days.
30 I will show wonders in the heavens
and on the earth,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
31 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.
32 And everyone who calls
on the name of the LORD will be saved;
for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem
there will be deliverance,
as the LORD has said,
even among the survivors
whom the LORD calls.

You're nothing but a misogamist, STILL..........

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#13 Dec 29, 2010
Think Again wrote:
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They are still "ministry partners," similar to being in communion with one another.
But why aren't they together?
Think Again

Raeford, NC

#14 Dec 29, 2010
MiddleWay wrote:
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But why aren't they together?
I told you, women's ordination.

“The Kingdom of God Begins NOW!”

Since: May 07

The Mountain Empire

#15 Dec 29, 2010
Think Again wrote:
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I told you, women's ordination.
WHAT?

One side accepts it and the other doesn't?

How in the world can they be in communion when they both pick and choose what is important to them while disregarding the most important command, to LOVE ONE ANOTHER.

And yet they BOTH claim orthodoxy and conservative-ship.

What a hypocritical joke..........
Think Again

Raeford, NC

#16 Dec 29, 2010
MiddleWay wrote:
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WHAT?
One side accepts it and the other doesn't?
How in the world can they be in communion when they both pick and choose what is important to them while disregarding the most important command, to LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
And yet they BOTH claim orthodoxy and conservative-ship.
What a hypocritical joke..........
That is the answer. Whether I agree or disagree with one side or the other, that is the reason for the split.

I am beginning to believe there is no orthodoxy in Anglicanism at all.
Think Again

Raeford, NC

#17 Dec 29, 2010
MiddleWay wrote:
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How in the world can they be in communion when they both pick and choose what is important to them while disregarding the most important command, to LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
The same reason TEC was/is in communion still with those provinces that do not prescribe to their innovations. This concept of communion is not new why should it surprise you?

Since: Jun 07

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#18 Dec 29, 2010
Think Again wrote:
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I told you, women's ordination.
Then move along...because we value women for their full potential.

“Ecce! Sic transit gloria mundi”

Since: Oct 10

I See New Jerusalem From Here.

#19 Dec 29, 2010
Think Again wrote:
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That is the answer. Whether I agree or disagree with one side or the other, that is the reason for the split.
I am beginning to believe there is no orthodoxy in Anglicanism at all.
Bingo! There is no 'orthodoxy in Anglicanism'. Perhaps you are trainable after all.

Thanks be to God!
Think Again

Raeford, NC

#20 Dec 29, 2010
Selecia Jones- JAX FL wrote:
<quoted text>Then move along...because we value women for their full potential.
Perhaps, following the entire thread would be helpful before you comment. Just a thought.

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