Beer, Wine, Deli Store Approved for North Adams

Apr 10, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: IBerkshires

The Redevelopment Authority approved to allow Steeple City Liquors, Inc., into the former Staples lot on 80 Rear Main St.

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NGolard

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May 13, 2013
 
Hold On wrote:
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Lou, stop lying and pretending that you're this NGolard person. You were not at Jack's, and your store does not have a liquor license. The City shot you down. Your last hope is convincing some city councilor to go to bat for you. That will not happen. You're nothing more than a loudmouthed coward.
As for Neil Ellis, his company's stock trades for $3.00 a share, and he lives in CT, not the Berkshires. He earns about $250k a year. There are billionaires in Williamstown who could buy and sell Ellis in a heartbeat if they wanted to.
But, keep right on lying about what's happening with Steeple City Liquors. It'll be about as successful as your Dad's hot dog stand.
As I have said several times I am not Mr Matney but will be down at the store Wednesday to get a tour and wish you would join me and say half of your lies to his face. As for Mr Ellis it's very interesting as he not only owns a majority of first Harford but 4 news Papers, A Wine Vineyard, and several other businesses. He personally is worth millions. As for the stock going for $3, thats probably more than your welfare a$$ could ever earn.
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#115
May 13, 2013
 
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<quoted text>North Adams doesn't have any licenses to issue! We lost one when Lopardo's closed due to our dwindling population. They will have to buy an existing license to open!
To bad that they will be Opening with a Licence that has already been issued(i.e. Steeple city Spirits facebook page).

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#116
May 13, 2013
 
I personally love the fact that there is new business in this small city!
HIS

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#117
May 13, 2013
 
bummer wrote:
<quoted text>North Adams doesn't have any licenses to issue! We lost one when Lopardo's closed due to our dwindling population. They will have to buy an existing license to open!
They were approved for a beer and wine license, there are no liquor licenses available with out state intervention
cant wait

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#118
May 14, 2013
 
I can't wait for the store to open. I will be first in line to buy my beer from a pregnant looking John Turturro.
Denny Wright

North Adams, MA

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New business is always welcome! Better to have tried and fail,than not try at all. I'm hoping success!
North Adams Power

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New business is always welcome! Better to have tried and fail,than not try at all. I'm hoping success!
Why is any new business welcome? They will hire 1-2 low paid, low skilled, part time employees, and they will just add to the availability of booze in North Adams. I know it's very hard to find a place to get drunk in North Adams, so this will at least alleviate that problem. What do you think their tax contribution to the city will be? Minimal at best.
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North Adams Power wrote:
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Why is any new business welcome? They will hire 1-2 low paid, low skilled, part time employees, and they will just add to the availability of booze in North Adams. I know it's very hard to find a place to get drunk in North Adams, so this will at least alleviate that problem. What do you think their tax contribution to the city will be? Minimal at best.
Then there will be 1-2 people earning some money instead of none and whatever taxes they pay will be used for something that we need, even if it is something small. Is this what you are complaining about?
simpleminded

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there certainly isnt a need for yet another liquor store. you can call it beer and wine but its still gets people just as drunk.

ill agree that at least someone has a job but it only ends up being the opposite effect:

johnA and maryB both buy 1 bottle of wine each
johnA and maryB both get drunk out of their minds
johnA and maryB get in fight and ultimately arrested

final assessment:

while storeA made money off johnA and maryB, employeeA and employeeB is paying for johnA and maryB visit to the local courthouse.

even thought storeA made money and employed employeeA and employeeB with them making money, it still ends up that storeA cause more problems than it cured.

north adams is loaded with banks churches and beer stores, what could one more help?

here is the break down of a day and life of a typical north adams drunk:

wake up, drink beer, run out of beer, go to bank, go to beer store, get drunk, run out of beer, go to bank, go to beer store, run out of beer, fall asleep

the process is never-ending and the few employees and the tiny amount of taxes to be had will hardly make a dent. the biggest of dents can only be from the drunks that storeA served only to wind up wrapped around a telephone pole.
Yowza

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North Adams Power wrote:
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Why is any new business welcome? They will hire 1-2 low paid, low skilled, part time employees, and they will just add to the availability of booze in North Adams. I know it's very hard to find a place to get drunk in North Adams, so this will at least alleviate that problem. What do you think their tax contribution to the city will be? Minimal at best.
Cheap booze is not hard to come by. This will not increase drunks. It will attract those who enjoy a larger selection of wines and beers. It will offer a attractive spacious atmosphere than the other business. River Street package is an embarrassment that want $900,000 for his building. The other three are small package stores. This is a large market offering a much bigger selection. Low paid or not, it's jobs. You'd be complaining if they were in the unemployment line. This is a multimillion dollar building that pays over $100,000 in taxes when filled, or would you rather it be empty to complain about that too.
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#124
May 14, 2013
 
simpleminded wrote:
there certainly isnt a need for yet another liquor store. you can call it beer and wine but its still gets people just as drunk.
ill agree that at least someone has a job but it only ends up being the opposite effect:
johnA and maryB both buy 1 bottle of wine each
johnA and maryB both get drunk out of their minds
johnA and maryB get in fight and ultimately arrested
final assessment:
while storeA made money off johnA and maryB, employeeA and employeeB is paying for johnA and maryB visit to the local courthouse.
even thought storeA made money and employed employeeA and employeeB with them making money, it still ends up that storeA cause more problems than it cured.
north adams is loaded with banks churches and beer stores, what could one more help?
here is the break down of a day and life of a typical north adams drunk:
wake up, drink beer, run out of beer, go to bank, go to beer store, get drunk, run out of beer, go to bank, go to beer store, run out of beer, fall asleep
the process is never-ending and the few employees and the tiny amount of taxes to be had will hardly make a dent. the biggest of dents can only be from the drunks that storeA served only to wind up wrapped around a telephone pole.
So you are saying that if this store is not allowed to open John and Mary will not have a drink?
Bolt

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booze , gambling, this will help our country as much as a tattoo parlor...
Not Larry

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booze , gambling, this will help our country as much as a tattoo parlor...
You are right, lets ban wine and gambling, that should shut down a few churches. No more bingo or wine during mass
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its more than obvious what is meant. i wont even respond with an answer to such a ridiculous question. you must be one that does the North Adams drunk shuffle:

bank booze church booze bank booze snooze bank booze church booze bank booze snooze bank booze church booze bank booze snooze bank booze church booze bank booze snooze lose
Not Larry

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its more than obvious what is meant. i wont even respond with an answer to such a ridiculous question. you must be one that does the North Adams drunk shuffle:
bank booze church booze bank booze snooze bank booze church booze bank booze snooze bank booze church booze bank booze snooze bank booze church booze bank booze snooze lose
Of course you will not respond,you have no reason to not want this place to open. Why do you feel that people should not be able to buy beer, wine and deli at this location? Do you think that they will cause an increase in drinking? Will people become obese? What exactly is your problem with this place opening? You are one of the problems with North Adams, you do not want to change anything, your typical day: Bitch,Whine,Moan,Complain,Bitc h,Whine,Moan,Complain......... .
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you obviously lack education and cant understand the most simple of context. you cant seem to figure out that the analogy of storeA, johnA, and maryB are representative of what it could offer to the city, whether that be in taxes or supplying to public with a place to buy goods.

being you are more simple minded than anyone could imagine, i will simplify it so even a third grader could understand.

1) another beer and wine outlet will serve no purpose to supply the public with a place to buy beer and wine as there already are more than enough beer and wine stores in the area, all within close proximity of each other.

2) the taxes such a place would generate wouldnt substantiate a need for yet another location selling the very same products as other much longer standing businesses.

2b) sub-note: its likely that not many of the local drunks would want to be anywhere near or in sight of a police station, further lower the potential for revenue.

3)there is no study i know of that would suggest an already populated beer and wine supplied area would ever cause an increase in the consumption of alcohol.

4) i see no way possible this could overhaul north adams economy whatsoever, and/or benefit north adams in any way.

5) there is nothing suggested here that selling beer and wine is illegal or immoral in any way.

6)your analogy of alcohol consumption causing weight gain is not altogether correct. it most certainly is not good for your body in any way. with the exception of wine being good for the digestion system, it still would require you to consume it in moderation and not in large amounts.

your failure to see this is the true light may be clouded by the fact that you are 1) a drunk yourself or 2) you have something to benefit from yet another beer and wine outlet.

there is nothing that has been said about not wanting north adams to change, but do you truly see that one more store in could make all that much difference, even if it did make profit. the small amount of revenue it could generate from sales would hardly contribute to the further development of north adams.

now unless the store would be making huge profits and still giving a bargain for the consumer, that may be ok, and might even force the current beer and wine stores to lower their prices, further benefiting the consumer as well as contributing to the city funds in the form of taxes.

if you dont know already, most liquor stores will sell their products at 200% the wholesale cost. so who is really making money here? the consumer? the business? the city?
WTF

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Just where did you get your facts from?
Not Larry

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WTF wrote:
Just where did you get your facts from?
Simpleminded has no facts, he is just against this business opening. By his warped logic we should not open any new business in the City if he feels that there are enough of them already. In answer some of his points:1)It is called competition and choice, the essence of capitalism 2)Any taxes added to the City coffers is a plus,more money in, more to spend on improvements 2b)Most people are not drunks so that should not affect business 3)That was my point,I thought that might be your objection to this store opening because I still can not see what your problem is with this store opening 4) The benefits would be more competition, more variety of products, wine,beer and a deli all in one place. I do not believe that the owners goal is to overhaul the economy of North Adams, just add a new business with different options 5)Just trying to point out that beer and wine consumption is not limited to drunks 6)My point of weight gain was not aimed at the wine and beer part,although if you over imbibe you may put on some weight, I thought you may be objecting to them having a deli. Resorting to name calling is the refuge of the simpleminded, so I need say no more about that.In very few instances is the opening of one business going to change a City,each business is a small part of a community and any new business opening adds to the mix. I am not sure where you get your amount of 200% mark-up, but having purchased beer and wine for restaurants I know that that number is way off.
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#133
May 16, 2013
 
only someone as brainless as you could ever see my comments as being against businesses coming to North Adams. even a monkey could figure that one out.

time to step down to an all time low level of communication as you barely have the sense enough to see anything past your own desire of banana. it truly cant get any lower than this. 1st grade math:

it wont make money = wont be doing shit for North Adams

i seriously cant think of anything less capable of being warped into some fantasy world you live in. being a sociopath wont help you matters any. you can warp any comment into whatever you wish but a sane person will still see the original intended idea. attempting to get us all to join you in your insane twists of fantasy likely wont be so successful as you so wish but enough of that. i think the rest of us can see that anyways.

main street is littered and has been plagued with businesses coming and going. the main reason i have heard (from the horses mouth) is that the commercial tax had been way too high and it was cutting into profits, eventually leading to the downfall of such a short lived store. i have seen (with my own eyes) places literally within a month or two fail and poof they be gone.

its more than obvious i speak of my own experiences and to see it with my own eyes has special significance. you can tell me i am full of shit or making shit up but when it comes down to it, it was all truth from the very start.

you obviously have no true math skills as you would have seen that North Adams is declining in population, further putting a hurt on possible revenue via taxes and sales. it certainly doesnt take a mathematician to be convinced of this when you see boards and paper covering the windows not long after the storefront opens. speaking with the owners myself (yes i do speak to the owners often) there main blame is on how the city deals with them.

to make it short and sweet, there truly is no need for a repeat business in a high taxed area, that will only end up with the very same demise. the location is not suited for that type of store and will have more than enough trouble competing with the stores of longevity.

if you cant see this is not a war against your conspiracy there, maybe you should listen to your Alex Jones show a little close. maybe someday you will see its all a bunch of crap and do you know who is making money???? you got it, Alex Jones and he is laughing all the way to the bank, buying a nice bottle of wine at a store other than the one proposed.

to answer such a silly question as "200% mark-up" it couldnt be more simple than to just google keywords "average markup on liquor".

here i will do it for you as you likely have absolutely no idea.

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_rn=12&am...

and a quote from the very first hit on google:

Example:
20% is your ideal alcohol cost percentage.

$0.95 is the cost of the drink to you.

Since $0.95 represents 20%, or 1/5, of your drink price, multiply your drink cost by 5.

$0.95 x 5 =$4.75

$4.75 is your estimated drink price.

read it and weep and btw 200% was being conservative. it actually goes well past 300% in many cases.

further trolling will offer no response. you obviously have no facts to prove otherwise. if indeed you do, you might be rewarded with a reply.
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#134
May 16, 2013
 
just a note: the 20% is cost to the store making the markup to the consumer 5 times the original cost... 500% if you may.

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