OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, Sta...

OK Health Care Freedom Amendment, State Question 756

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Dempsey

Dallas, TX

#44949 Jul 20, 2013
For years, we have heard Republicans insist that the only true way to prevent teen pregnancy, abortion, and STDs is to destroy comprehensive sex education programs and replace them with religious based abstinence-only programs. In many red states, particularly in the South, conservatives have dismantled proper sex ed and have instituted abstinence-only programs that have failed time and time again. Now, a new report in California shows that the liberal stateís own comprehensive sex ed program has reduced teen pregnancy rates to a 20 year low.

According to the Los Angeles Times:

In 2011, the birthrate for teenage girls in California dropped to its lowest level since 1991, a state report released Wednesday announced.

Twenty-eight children were born in the state for every 1,000 teenage girls, a sharp decline from 1991 when the rate peaked at 70.9 births for every 1,000 teenage girls.

Public health experts say state laws are responsible for the decline because they require public schools that offer sex education classes to provide scientifically reliable instructions on how contraceptives work along with information about abstinence.
Dempsey

Dallas, TX

#44950 Jul 20, 2013
Conservative states could learn a lot from Californiaís success. Studies consistently show that abstinence doesnít work. In fact, nine of the ten states with the highest teen pregnancy rates are located in the Bible belt. Texas is one of those states with abstinence-only programs, and one study already shows that most women in the state say that they donít have enough access to contraception. So when women get an unwanted pregnancy, the only recourse they can turn to is abortion. The higher the number of unwanted pregnancies, the more abortions are likely to increase. But when women have access to lower cost or free birth control, the rate of unwanted pregnancies and abortion .

Teaching abstinence-only prevents teens from knowing how to protect themselves when they choose to have sex, and make no mistake, teens are going to have sex no matter what you teach them. This fact combined with all the studies showing that abstinence-only fails has led one state to ban such programs. Because abstinence-only programs donít work, the state of Illinois has elected to ban the program in favor of comprehensive programs that are far more effective.
Dempsey

Dallas, TX

#44951 Jul 20, 2013
If conservative states really want to decrease abortion and STDs, teaching proper sex ed and providing better access to contraception would be the place to start. Unfortunately, Republicans refuse to do so because they are under the thumbs of religious extremists who apparently see pregnancy as a punishment for those who have sex before marriage and as a way to subjugate young women to child rearing instead of doing things like pursuing a career. In other words, conservatives WANT teen girls to get pregnant. Because women are only good for having babies and cooking breakfast, right GOP?

Unfortunately, higher rates of teen pregnancy also increases the number of welfare recipients. Since teen moms are usually low-income, they are forced to rely on state and federal government to get by, which is ironic considering how much conservatives whine about how too many people are on welfare, which is also ironic considering how red states rely on welfare more than blue states as a whole. More unwanted pregnancies equal more welfare recipients and more abortions. You would think conservatives would make the connection and try something that actually works to solve the problem, but no, they just double down because they refuse to believe they are wrong.
Dempsey

Dallas, TX

#44952 Jul 20, 2013
Abstinence-only programs push a conservative fantasy that all we have to do is scare young people from having sex and they just wonít do it. That kind of thinking is incredibly ignorant of the facts, and the birds and the bees. Sheer curiosity and raging hormones are enough to drive teens to have sex. Unless parents lock their kids away from the outside world, teens are going to have sex. We might as well make sure they know how to protect themselves when they do, and comprehensive sex education is the way to go. This report from California should embarrass red states and force the people who live in them to re-examine what their elected officials have been claiming all these years about abstinence-only programs.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44953 Jul 20, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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Yeah, I mentioned to you once some time ago that I had eaten there. Seems you told me you didn't go there. This was probably a couple of years ago.
Haven't been in OKC area since before Tornado except to take son to Airport and I was in and out, didn't see any of my folks.
Even my doctor here in Tulsa tells me he knows of doctor offices with hidden cameras in examining rooms. So next time you spread 'em beware. More than your doctor may be looking.
My cousin who is a doctor lives in Edmond. Did you know that some doctors examining rooms have hidden cameras? Not my cousins though.
I thought you said you had eaten there. We go there but just not all the time. But A lot of people show up Tuesdays for the half price hamburgers. They are pretty good. It is handy for us.

No I never thought of the doctors offices having hidden cameras. I am pretty sure where we go does not. When I got so sick a year ago Aug. I really could had cared less. Ours is associated with Mercy Hospital. I was very impressed with our primary doctor getting to the root of my problem and I ended up with a very good surgeon. I have one daughter-in-law that is in the Mercy Lab and if anyone in a hospital will know the good and bad about doctors they will. Then another Daughter-in-law that is a RN also is in a Church study group with the head of the hospital and she called him to see if he knew my surgeon. My doctor ordered a cat scan and I had it at 1:30PM and at 3:00 PM my doctor called and said to get my self to the hospital and by 9:30PM I was in surgery.

But thanks for the heads up about this.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44958 Jul 20, 2013
WMCOL wrote:
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Yeah, I mentioned to you once some time ago that I had eaten there. Seems you told me you didn't go there. This was probably a couple of years ago.
Haven't been in OKC area since before Tornado except to take son to Airport and I was in and out, didn't see any of my folks.
Even my doctor here in Tulsa tells me he knows of doctor offices with hidden cameras in examining rooms. So next time you spread 'em beware. More than your doctor may be looking.
My cousin who is a doctor lives in Edmond. Did you know that some doctors examining rooms have hidden cameras? Not my cousins though.
I actually can think of a case where maybe a camera might had been a good thing. When we first moved down here we needed a primary doctor. Started going to this female doctor. She was nice and I liked her and she did good for general things plus sinus infections and bad cases of poison ivy but I kept this gut feeling how would she do with something more serious. I think you were here posting regularly when I had a really bad lower lumbar spine problem and it turn into a sciatic nerve deal. I would go into her and ask what I should be doing or who I should be seeing or if physical therapy would help or a medro pack would help and she would say will maybe lets try it. We were not getting any where. She prescribed something for pain but the med my drug plan refused it. She called and said that it would take about a month to be able to get another medication. By that time I had had it and told her bull ...... and went shopping for another doctor. It would have been nice to have had a camera to prove this doctor incompetence. I finally got help getting my back to heal as much as it could. The kicker I had not seen this doctor in almost 3 months and I get a call from where I get my prescriptions saying I had one to pick up. I no I did not and asked what doctor called it in and it was the doctor I had left. At this point I was very upset about this doctor and she and I had it out. She is no longer her in Edmond. Why I do not know.
I DON'T KNow how it could be done with the camera thing and still not invade a patients privacy also. That ordeal still bothers me.
WarForOil

Grapevine, TX

#44959 Jul 21, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
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I just don't understand why people don't take pride in where they live. I meant keeping it picked up, uncluttered and clean. You really don't have to be rich to do this.

I will say a couple of years ago my husband & I took a trip and headed over to the Grand Canyon and up to Yellowstone Park and back. I was amazed at the trashy place we saw thru out that trip. So it is just not here in Oklahoma.
Yes, the common people are trashy. Hence the name - Trash.
No so in Europe. Germany, Austria, Canada and France are spotless.

I visited Yellowstone and the Grand Canyon and didn't see
a lot of junk because we flew and didn't rub elbows with
the smelly people at Gas Stops and the Colonel's.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44960 Jul 21, 2013
WarForOil wrote:
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Yes, the common people are trashy. Hence the name - Trash.
No so in Europe. Germany, Austria, Canada and France are spotless.
I visited Yellowstone and the Grand Canyon and didn't see
a lot of junk because we flew and didn't rub elbows with
the smelly people at Gas Stops and the Colonel's.
If so you do miss a lot of life. Like I said before you do not have to be rich to be clean. One of the best part of our trip was meeting people. We met people from all over the states and other countries and all ages. If you are what you say you are it is a wonder you haven't drowned from having your nose so far up in the air.
Flyfart

Broken Bow, OK

#44961 Jul 21, 2013
TAMARA wrote:
<quoted text>If so you do miss a lot of life. Like I said before you do not have to be rich to be clean. One of the best part of our trip was meeting people. We met people from all over the states and other countries and all ages. If you are what you say you are it is a wonder you haven't drowned from having your nose so far up in the air.
Can't stand his type (whoreforoil) its the working people who made the U.S. great.
Dr Jones

Dallas, TX

#44962 Jul 21, 2013
On the whole, banks, credit card companies and TV providers received negative customer ratings from four in 10 of our respondents, who called those companies' customer service either "poor" or "fair." Less than one in four said big banks and TV providers gave "excellent" service. The average "poor" score for these industries was 16.2%; across all 15 industries in our survey, the average "poor" score was 8.2%.
Jesse

Dallas, TX

#44963 Jul 21, 2013
Folks hate Cable Companies because they provide hundreds of useless channels you have to pay for just to find 3 or 4 channels you would actually watch. Folks want to only pay for the channels they need. Folks also hate Cable Companies because of poor quality. Instead of rushing to push more useless channels, how about improving quality of what they already have first.

Folks hate Big Banks simply because they are a organized Crime Syndicate funded by the Fed. They tell poor folks to get lost and they charge the rest of us with Fee after Fee after Fee. Big Banks get bailout money from the FED at zero percent yet charge the rest of us, Loan Shark Rates. That's why folks hate the Big Banks.
JAG

Dallas, TX

#44964 Jul 21, 2013
It's not that people hate the service provided by these companies, they hate the sneakiness of these companies. They advertise a price to death in big, bold writing, and repeatedly over and over to trick you into thinking that this is your monthly payment. But, if you read more closely, you will see the hidden fees and surcharges that will double or even triple the amount you have to pay. This is definitely a practice that needs to be stopped. If something is advertised as costing $99.00 per month...Then it should be. You shouldn't receive a bill for $160.00! This is what's hated about cable companies. And when you look at all these extra tack on fees and taxes..It's non-sense!! Surprised that Cell phone companies aren't thrown into this mix. They are the absolute worst!
Justice

Dallas, TX

#44965 Jul 21, 2013
Our cable ( dish network ) was turned off today as a matter of fact. Had nothing to do with the company. It had to do with watching a show for five minutes than watching five minutes of commercials, then watching two minutes of more program most of which was just a rerun of what had already happened, than having to watch five more minutes of commercials.

I'm getting a strong dislike for corporate America and the way they are selling themselves. If I want something that will get me hard, I'll go see a doctor. I don't really care about what new plastic device is out there that my wife can insert inside herself to release a piece of cotton. I especially don't like a cure for acne that may of may not give me kidney failure.
Marcus

Dallas, TX

#44966 Jul 21, 2013
They forgot to add Health Insurance Companies to this list, Americans pay twice as much for surgeries, treatments and Hospital stays as any other developed nation, because were the only one without a public option for insurance. Were trapped like rats being forced to pay for massive CEO salaries and companies who collaborate with medical firms to drive prices up, to reap more profits, while milking the American citizen penniless.
Stephen

Dallas, TX

#44967 Jul 21, 2013
HIDE your money like the criminal ruling class.do.
Susan

Dallas, TX

#44968 Jul 21, 2013
Get food stamps, sec 8 or anything else you can..

So wait now? We are suppose to be ethical and honest when 90% of the criminal class are nothing but criminals?

what the fuvk ever..

those who live by the sword?
Jangles

Dallas, TX

#44969 Jul 21, 2013
Capitalism is a cult. It is devoted to the ideals of privatization over the common good, profit over social needs, and control by a small group of people who defy the public's will. The tenets of the cult lead to extremes rather than to compromise. Examples are not hard to find.
Mandy

Dallas, TX

#44970 Jul 21, 2013
Capitalism is the legitimate racket of the ruling class."
Zane

Dallas, TX

#44971 Jul 21, 2013
When you hate your cable company, you get angry, when you get angry, you rob a bank, when you rob a bank, you get bookoo bucks, when you get bookoo bucks, your friends get jealous, when your friends get jealous, they rat you out, when they rat you out, you go to jail, when you go to jail, you learn to lay naked face down with a sock in your mouth.....

Don't learn to lay naked face down with a sock in your mouth........give up TV, read a book.
TAMARA

Edmond, OK

#44972 Jul 21, 2013
Flyfart wrote:
<quoted text>Can't stand his type (whoreforoil) its the working people who made the U.S. great.
WFO is a little boy in a man's body. What do little boys do. Wish for things in a big way. Wishing they maybe another star ball player or some such thing. Will WFO wishes he was one of the big players in life. You don't take him to serious.

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