City Water Turning Brown
FED

Shreveport, LA

#21 Apr 28, 2010
Municipal water can be "brown" from primarily one source. The ph level, normal water has a ph of 7, "hard "water has high ph contains contaminants, brown water usually indicates iron, ground water usually has a ph of 6-8.5.
EPA has established National Secondary Drinking Water Regulations that set non-mandatory water quality standards for 15 contaminants. EPA does not enforce these "secondary maximum contaminant levels" or "SMCLs." They are established only as guidelines to assist public water systems in managing their drinking water for aesthetic considerations, such as taste, color and odor. These contaminants are not considered to present a risk to human health at the SMCL.
Secondary standards are set to give public water systems some guidance on removing these chemicals to levels that are below what most people will find to be noticeable and objectionable.
It sounds as if your water supplier is not treating your water sufficiently to reduce the contaminant below levels to eliminate the color problem
FED

Shreveport, LA

#22 Apr 28, 2010
How can these problems be corrected?
SMC Levels
Aluminum 0.05 to 0.2 mg/L colored water
iron 0.3 mg/L rust color
Manganese 0.05 mg/L black to brown color

Conventional treatments will remove a variety of secondary contaminents. Coagulation/flocculation and filtration removes metals like iron, maganese and zinc. Aeration removes odors, iron and manganese. Granular activated carbon will remove most of the contaminants which cause odors, color and foaming.
Contact your local public water system and inquire about your supplier's monitoring for secondary contaminants. Ask for the list of secondary contaminants which are being monitored in your water supply. Ask if your water supplier is consistently in compliance with both primary and secondary drinking water regulations. Request a copy of monitoring results that were submitted to the State by your supplier. If there is a problem contact the Safe Drinking Water Hotline at 1-800-426-4791.

“Social Engineering Specialist”

Since: Mar 10

No patch for human stupidity!

#23 Apr 28, 2010
Hello, friend.

Very helpful posts. If it doesn't clear up in a bit I'm sure there will be some issues with complaints taken to the next level. Good to see you.
FED

Shreveport, LA

#24 Apr 28, 2010
HaCk3R wrote:
Hello, friend.
Very helpful posts. If it doesn't clear up in a bit I'm sure there will be some issues with complaints taken to the next level. Good to see you.
Good evening friend,
Have not forgotten you. Just some info I thought might help.
If you get a chance look up X-37B.

FED/Challenger99

“Every Action has an equal”

Since: Sep 09

but opposite Reaction.

#25 Apr 28, 2010
FED wrote:
<quoted text>Good evening friend,
Have not forgotten you. Just some info I thought might help.
If you get a chance look up X-37B.
FED/Challenger99
Good evening Fed, Where ya been?
FED

Shreveport, LA

#26 Apr 28, 2010
Regardless wrote:
<quoted text>
Good evening Fed, Where ya been?
Good evening,
Google X-37B
All I can say.

“Every Action has an equal”

Since: Sep 09

but opposite Reaction.

#27 Apr 28, 2010
FED wrote:
<quoted text>Good evening,
Google X-37B
All I can say.
That is one nice looking shuttle!
FED

Shreveport, LA

#28 Apr 28, 2010
Regardless wrote:
<quoted text>
That is one nice looking shuttle!
Second Project look up NERVA. Only good thing about Jackass Flats and Area 51 close to Vegas. Two words "interplanatary propulsion".

“Social Engineering Specialist”

Since: Mar 10

No patch for human stupidity!

#29 Apr 29, 2010
I often wondered when they were going to attempt NPS. I know they've been using HiPEP and I have always been fascinated with the dynamics. It is really amazing stuff; the ability to harness power of that magnitude with minimal mass is almost fictional.

Interesting stuff. I wish I could say I have gotten a little closer to see this stuff, rather than just the Discovery Channel. I'm a big fan of space travel.
Charlotte

Athens, GA

#30 Apr 29, 2010
Or they could be flushing the hydrants...when you flush a hydrant sediment in the pipes gets stirred up and the water becomes"rusty" call the water or fire dept, when they finish with your neighborhood you will need to run your water for 15-20 minutes or longer to flush your lines out.
FED wrote:
Municipal water can be "brown" from primarily one source. The ph level, normal water has a ph of 7, "hard "water has high ph contains contaminants, brown water usually indicates iron, ground water usually has a ph of 6-8.5.
EPA has established National Secondary Drinking Water Regulations that set non-mandatory water quality standards for 15 contaminants. EPA does not enforce these "secondary maximum contaminant levels" or "SMCLs." They are established only as guidelines to assist public water systems in managing their drinking water for aesthetic considerations, such as taste, color and odor. These contaminants are not considered to present a risk to human health at the SMCL.
Secondary standards are set to give public water systems some guidance on removing these chemicals to levels that are below what most people will find to be noticeable and objectionable.
It sounds as if your water supplier is not treating your water sufficiently to reduce the contaminant below levels to eliminate the color problem
FED

Shreveport, LA

#31 Apr 29, 2010
Charlotte wrote:
Or they could be flushing the hydrants...when you flush a hydrant sediment in the pipes gets stirred up and the water becomes"rusty" call the water or fire dept, when they finish with your neighborhood you will need to run your water for 15-20 minutes or longer to flush your lines out.
<quoted text>
This is true. Most towns notify residents and then sequence the testing to minimize and localize pressure drops and sediment contamination. I don't know the time line that the problem exists for. Short term flushing, long term processing.
FED

Shreveport, LA

#32 Apr 29, 2010
HaCk3R wrote:
I often wondered when they were going to attempt NPS. I know they've been using HiPEP and I have always been fascinated with the dynamics. It is really amazing stuff; the ability to harness power of that magnitude with minimal mass is almost fictional.
Interesting stuff. I wish I could say I have gotten a little closer to see this stuff, rather than just the Discovery Channel. I'm a big fan of space travel.
On KIWI and NERVA you did not not want to be too close to the test firings. We had a fully rated engine ready to fly when the Program was killed.
FED

Shreveport, LA

#33 Apr 29, 2010
Regardless wrote:
<quoted text>
That is one nice looking shuttle!
Unmanned, ground controlled, long duration mission capability.

“Social Engineering Specialist”

Since: Mar 10

No patch for human stupidity!

#34 Apr 29, 2010
LoL! Too close to test firings... literally.

I wish I had followed my dreams. In high school I took the ASVAB test and the Air Force Recruiters paid me a visit and told me that I had made the highest score ever made in Hazlehurst. I wanted to join the Air Force but I met my Wife ..... sigh...
FED

Shreveport, LA

#35 Apr 29, 2010
Never look back, the past can not catch up, always look to the future, that you still have some control over.
I know it is "off Topic" but a little of my background. I was born and raised in a small Eastern PA coal town, Dad was a railroader. I went thru Penn State on ROTC, graduated with BA in Accounting and a BS in Chemical Engineering. Hired by a then small PA company that was almost completely Gov't Contracts. My boss and mentor was a West Point grad who provided me his basic life philosophy and I have tried to live to it all my life. West Point Motto, "Duty, Honor, Country."
Duty changes thru life, all aspects of my Honor are extemely important to me and our Country deserves both my Duty and Honor, for there is no better in this world than the United States of America!
Mayor

Milton, FL

#36 Apr 29, 2010
FED wrote:
Never look back, the past can not catch up, always look to the future, that you still have some control over.
I know it is "off Topic" but a little of my background. I was born and raised in a small Eastern PA coal town, Dad was a railroader. I went thru Penn State on ROTC, graduated with BA in Accounting and a BS in Chemical Engineering. Hired by a then small PA company that was almost completely Gov't Contracts. My boss and mentor was a West Point grad who provided me his basic life philosophy and I have tried to live to it all my life. West Point Motto, "Duty, Honor, Country."
Duty changes thru life, all aspects of my Honor are extemely important to me and our Country deserves both my Duty and Honor, for there is no better in this world than the United States of America!
"Fed":

I don't know how you came to be on Hazlehurst Topix, but I am sure glad you did. Your influence is greater than you might think. Your info about the water quality was great, it sure helped me. Please keep up the good work.

Thank you,
R. Bayne Stone
Mayor-Hazlehurst, Ga.

Since: Sep 09

Location hidden

#37 Apr 29, 2010
Mayor,
I appreciate the kind words.
I have not totally left you and the other friends in Hazlehurst. I have been and will be for the next 9 months very busy on several Government Programs.
I thought I had retired but right now my living the Motto is important to me and the Country.

Challenger 99/FED

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#38 Apr 30, 2010
Challenger99 wrote:
Mayor,
I appreciate the kind words.
I have not totally left you and the other friends in Hazlehurst. I have been and will be for the next 9 months very busy on several Government Programs.
I thought I had retired but right now my living the Motto is important to me and the Country.
Challenger 99/FED
Fellow Pennsylvanian I am glad that you are here to guide and advise our town but most of all I am glad you are here as a friend. Hope we all get to meet one day soon here in GA.
FED

Shreveport, LA

#39 Apr 30, 2010
softie wrote:
<quoted text> Fellow Pennsylvanian I am glad that you are here to guide and advise our town but most of all I am glad you are here as a friend. Hope we all get to meet one day soon here in GA.
Thank you, appreciate it. Depends on how schedules work out I may get to see your town later this Summer.
Quick note on "brown water", on Page 4 of the April 28 edition of Jeff Davis Ledger is a notice of "Hydrant Testing Schedule" might be part of your "brown water " problem.
Take care.

Since: Feb 10

Location hidden

#40 Apr 30, 2010
FED wrote:
<quoted text>Thank you, appreciate it. Depends on how schedules work out I may get to see your town later this Summer.
Quick note on "brown water", on Page 4 of the April 28 edition of Jeff Davis Ledger is a notice of "Hydrant Testing Schedule" might be part of your "brown water " problem.
Take care.
Fed Just let us know when and I will try to make it. Only time I will not be able to is the end of June I will be in your hometown area.

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