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Oakland County Clerk to testify in trial challenging Michigan's ban on gay marriage

There are 23 comments on the Detroit News story from Mar 3, 2014, titled Oakland County Clerk to testify in trial challenging Michigan's ban on gay marriage. In it, Detroit News reports that:

Oakland County Clerk Lisa Brown is expected to testify Monday in the second week of the federal trial of a lawsuit filed by two Hazel Park women seeking to strike down Michigan's bans on adoption by same-sex couples and gay marriage.

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“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#1 Mar 3, 2014
There's a pretty good Twitter feed from the courtroom at the "Fully story" link here.*Finally* some decent coverage.(at least for the moment... how long it will last, we don't know....)

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140303/M...
juls

Bellefontaine, OH

#2 Mar 3, 2014
The christian right is like russia- they want their old school shit back in place so use any means available- hum? sounds like a lot of old school boys- and girls......even africa is using old church empire teaching- not original thought or even logic....we will seek our rights- no place for religion and government....

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#4 Mar 3, 2014
So the state's first anti-gay "expert" witness just got bounced from the court by Judge Friedman.

One down.....

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#5 Mar 3, 2014
eJohn wrote:
There's a pretty good Twitter feed from the courtroom at the "Fully story" link here.*Finally* some decent coverage.(at least for the moment... how long it will last, we don't know....)
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140303/M...
Thanks for the link.

Considering what Judge Friedman did to the state's first "expert" witness, I can't wait to see what happens to Regnerus.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#6 Mar 3, 2014
I'm waiting for the state to call "expert witness" Mark Regnerus.

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#7 Mar 3, 2014
Rick Saintpornum wrote:
Here I thought only FL still has a ban on adoptions by same sex couples. Maybe it extends to same sex individuals in FL...I'm sure whatever the case FL must lag every other state on this issue.
The adoption ban in FL was overturned about 4 years ago.

Florida appeals court strikes down gay adoption ban
By the CNN Wire Staff
September 22, 2010 6:13 p.m. EDT
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/22/florida.gay....

DNF

“Judge less, Love more”

Since: Apr 07

Born in Newark Ohio

#8 Mar 3, 2014
eJohn wrote:
There's a pretty good Twitter feed from the courtroom at the "Fully story" link here.*Finally* some decent coverage.(at least for the moment... how long it will last, we don't know....)
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20140303/M...
from the twitter feed:

oralandar brand-wms:'I think somebody youre going to be a great witnesses. Youll be in that position but not quite yet' Friedman to state witness
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oralandar brand-wms @oralandar_DN
judge friedman says while Girgis' credential impressive the scholar "not quite ready" to be an expert witness.
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from: oralandar brand-wms

Girgis says there are two views on marriage: conjugal and normative

Girgis is an author of the book "What is Marraige: Man and Woman: A Defense. He's also a law student at Yale University.

Girgis has written legal briefs supported trad. marriage in some DOMA cases including U.S. Supt Ct

girgis has given guests lectures at hillsdale college, eastern michigan university on marriage law. also done debates on issue at U-M/MSU

Girgis says trad. marriage is special to male and female relationships and there is a basis going back to Aristotle, Plato et al who support

Girgis under cross by co-counsel Ken Mogill asking him about his credentials and whether they he has ever been an expert witness in ct.

Girgis said he has not been an expert witness in court before but he has read the complaint and other materials associated with the case

Mogill says Girgis' testimony irrelevant because michigan marr. law doesn't bring into question congugal relationship in marriage

Mi state atty joseph potchen says Girgis testimony does meet requirements to testify. judge bounces Girgis from testifying

judge friedman says while Girgis' credential impressive the scholar "not quite ready" to be an expert witness.

'I think somebody you're going to be a great witnesses. You'll be in that position but not quite yet' Friedman to state witness

(LMAO)

“Marriage Equality”

Since: Dec 07

Lakeland, MI

#10 Mar 3, 2014
"regnerus says step parents and adoptive parents are part of "concession" family structures for children."

Yeah,'cause that's not at all offensive to millions of families created by adoption. Not at all. They know they're not real families already, right?

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#11 Mar 3, 2014
eJohn wrote:
"regnerus says step parents and adoptive parents are part of "concession" family structures for children."
Yeah,'cause that's not at all offensive to millions of families created by adoption. Not at all. They know they're not real families already, right?
And Bill Donohue, President of The Catholic League, publicly claims that love has nothing to do with marriage.(Donohue is certifiably INSANE and is a HATEFUL man).

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/02/28/1281...
hi hi

Lancaster, PA

#12 Mar 3, 2014
eJohn wrote:
"regnerus says step parents and adoptive parents are part of "concession" family structures for children."
Yeah,'cause that's not at all offensive to millions of families created by adoption. Not at all. They know they're not real families already, right?
As they try to "refine" their points, the antigay are straining and straining to craft "logic" which paints EVERYTHING they do as allowable, and continues to reject EVERYTHING a gay couple does as unallowable.
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#13 Mar 3, 2014
Rick in Kansas wrote:
I'm waiting for the state to call "expert witness" Mark Regnerus.
Regnerus locked himself in the closet so the anal sex bug can't bite his sorry homophobic a$s
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/20/mark...
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He is sore afraid
Grace is Marys Sister

Alpharetta, GA

#14 Mar 3, 2014
From the News Article:
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Gay marriage supporters chanted “Hey, hey, ho, ho, the homophobias got to go,” while protesters sang “Amazing Grace.”
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Tell me this; Mary:
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Whose side are these 'protesters' on; anyway?

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#15 Mar 3, 2014
Rick in Kansas wrote:
I'm waiting for the state to call "expert witness" Mark Regnerus.
Regnerus is on the stand now.
Hoyt

Stamford, CT

#16 Mar 3, 2014
Allowing queers to play "marriage" is one thing but allowing them to adopt children is totally UNACCEPTABLE!

Keep queers AWAY from children!!!
Hoyt

Stamford, CT

#18 Mar 3, 2014
How could any society with any decency, common sense or that cares about the welfare of it's children allow homosexuals to adopt children? We're talking about sexual deviants, perverts and pedophiles here folks!
Rainbow Kid

Alpharetta, GA

#19 Mar 3, 2014
Hoyt wrote:
How could any society with any decency, common sense or that cares about the welfare of it's children allow homosexuals to adopt children? We're talking about sexual deviants, perverts and pedophiles here folks!
How many homeless orphans have YOU adopted lately?

“Equality marches on! ”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#21 Mar 3, 2014
Rick Saintpornum wrote:
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Again, you sick fundie freeeks lost that one years ago.
Move to Iran or Uganda, Cletus.
Hoyt1, the Gay thread, topix blunder, move out on his own? That would be the day!!
Buford

Buffalo, NY

#22 Mar 3, 2014
Hoyt wrote:
How could any society with any decency, common sense or that cares about the welfare of it's children allow homosexuals to adopt children? We're talking about sexual deviants, perverts and pedophiles here folks!
Answer is they wouldn't

“Equality marches on! ”

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#23 Mar 3, 2014
Replying to your own thread is pathetic, Buford1. Keep rigging the little judge it icons and make it even more obvious!!
Coolidge

Cambodia

#24 Mar 3, 2014
Buford wrote:
<quoted text>
Answer is they wouldn't
Spot on!

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