Petition to Secede from US
Hah

London, KY

#43 Nov 13, 2012
Donna wrote:
<quoted text>You know, I'm getting really tired of all you idiots saying you have to be stupid or uneducated to be a miner. I'm sure they have uneducated men working, but SO DOES EVERY JOB. most men are miners because it pays a LOT of money, prob more than most of you even
realize. Like the 100,000 year comment. My
husband brings home way more than that. He
also has two degrees, but he can make 4 times
working in the mines than what his degrees will
get for him. I know a LOT of men who have
degrees or who've gone through college and
even some who have no degrees, but are still
very intelligent. So don't talk about something you
have no idea about. It makes you look stupid to stereotype someone.
U mad?
Donna

Liberty, KY

#44 Nov 13, 2012
Hah wrote:
<quoted text>
U mad?
No sweetie, four year olds get mad. I'm just amazed at all the ignorant people on here. It takes ignorance to stereotype an entire group of people. There are intelligent miners and not-so-intelligent ones, just like anywhere else. And all you people who are laughing and taking such pleasure in these men losing their jobs need to realize that a lot of them DO have degrees and will be just fine. Will STILL end up with jobs paying more than some of you. There are a LOT who have 401ks that will be nice and big when and if they lose their jobs, as I'm sure some of the laid off ones have cashed out already. And just about ALL of them have some sort of training. Whether it be electrician or mechanic or even engineering. So, I'm sorry to disappoint all you ppl, but none of them will starve. A few might even lose a car or truck, but, so what? They'll just buy a newer model after they've taken a few months off and started work somewhere else. Cause, like I said, it might not
be as BIG a paycheck as mining, but most of
them have the training or education to get jobs
making very good money. Damn! How mad are
some of you gonna be when and IF coal does go
and the men you were snickering about are
STILL making more than you? Because that's
what it all comes down to, isn't it? What excuse
will you use to talk crap about them then? Oh
and btw, a lot of them I know are enjoying their
time off. U mad?
Vietnam

Campbellsville, KY

#45 Nov 13, 2012
Freedom is for ALL wrote:
<quoted text>
You say "Freedom in all aspecks" (I assume that you mean "aspects"), yet you also say "Let men marry men" in a negative way. Well, it seems like you're all for freedom when it suits what YOU want but you want to deny gay people the right to marry. How does a gay couple getting married affect your life in any shape, way or form? And who the heck is supposedly trying to "Take your rights to bare arms"?
Put all gays on an island and see if the population grows?God help YA!
Dave

Liberty, KY

#46 Nov 13, 2012
@Vietnam

I hear people always talking about lazy aliens, but I have 2 Mexican families living in my neighborhood and every one of them have jobs. The rest of the WHITE people, about half, are on food stamps and WON'T work if you offer them a job. And, one day you'll hear lazy aliens won't work, then the next it's stupid aliens taking our jobs. Which is it!! As for voting. Hate to tell ya, but you can't vote if you're not an American
citizen, so the ILLEGAL aliens aren't voting, or
even getting more rights, because if you aren't a
citizen, you HAVE no rights under the law. BUT,
if they become citizens, that means they have to
pay taxes and are subject to the same laws as everyone else. So, if they have to pay taxes and have the same laws, why SHOULDN'T they be allowed to vote and have the same rights? If you're such a good American, you should know that. I pay taxes up the butt, work every day, but I'd much rather try to help an alien who's TRYING to work and help his family, than give it to a carreer welfare recipient who's NEVER paid taxes. Ppl on welfare don't even pay taxes to this country, but people will bitch at aliens for living here, even if they're WORKING. And most of the ones bitching are on welfare, paying NOTHING in! and if you're working, most likely you're
paying taxes. And you're blaming the illegal aliens, in part, for electing Obama. Please tell me how you can say that, when illegals don't have the right to vote. But like I said, if they have their citizenship, then yes, they should have that right. I think you're doing a lot of talking out your ass and so far don't seem to know anything. Just a typical war lover dying to shoot your gun.
Just Saying

London, KY

#47 Nov 13, 2012
Vietnam wrote:
<quoted text>Put all gays on an island and see if the population grows?God help YA!
GOD is Awesome, and He helps us all, in ways that most of us don't even realize... But hating gays isn't pleasing to him. You're supposed to hate people's wrongful actions, not the people. You can't hate your way into Heaven.
Hah

London, KY

#48 Nov 13, 2012
Donna wrote:
<quoted text>No sweetie, four year olds get mad. I'm just amazed at all the ignorant people on here. It takes ignorance to stereotype an entire group of people. There are intelligent miners and not-so-intelligent ones, just like anywhere else. And all you people who are laughing and taking such pleasure in these men losing their jobs need to realize that a lot of them DO have degrees and will be just fine. Will STILL end up with jobs paying more than some of you. There are a LOT who have 401ks that will be nice and big when and if they lose their jobs, as I'm sure some of the laid off ones have cashed out already. And just about ALL of them have some sort of training. Whether it be electrician or mechanic or even engineering. So, I'm sorry to disappoint all you ppl, but none of them will starve. A few might even lose a car or truck, but, so what? They'll just buy a newer model after they've taken a few months off and started work somewhere else. Cause, like I said, it might not
be as BIG a paycheck as mining, but most of
them have the training or education to get jobs
making very good money. Damn! How mad are
some of you gonna be when and IF coal does go
and the men you were snickering about are
STILL making more than you? Because that's
what it all comes down to, isn't it? What excuse
will you use to talk crap about them then? Oh
and btw, a lot of them I know are enjoying their
time off. U mad?
I'm gonna be honest with you... I didn't read a word of that.
Vietnam

Campbellsville, KY

#49 Nov 13, 2012
Dave wrote:
@Vietnam
I hear people always talking about lazy aliens, but I have 2 Mexican families living in my neighborhood and every one of them have jobs. The rest of the WHITE people, about half, are on food stamps and WON'T work if you offer them a job. And, one day you'll hear lazy aliens won't work, then the next it's stupid aliens taking our jobs. Which is it!! As for voting. Hate to tell ya, but you can't vote if you're not an American
citizen, so the ILLEGAL aliens aren't voting, or
even getting more rights, because if you aren't a
citizen, you HAVE no rights under the law. BUT,
if they become citizens, that means they have to
pay taxes and are subject to the same laws as everyone else. So, if they have to pay taxes and have the same laws, why SHOULDN'T they be allowed to vote and have the same rights? If you're such a good American, you should know that. I pay taxes up the butt, work every day, but I'd much rather try to help an alien who's TRYING to work and help his family, than give it to a carreer welfare recipient who's NEVER paid taxes. Ppl on welfare don't even pay taxes to this country, but people will bitch at aliens for living here, even if they're WORKING. And most of the ones bitching are on welfare, paying NOTHING in! and if you're working, most likely you're
paying taxes. And you're blaming the illegal aliens, in part, for electing Obama. Please tell me how you can say that, when illegals don't have the right to vote. But like I said, if they have their citizenship, then yes, they should have that right. I think you're doing a lot of talking out your ass and so far don't seem to know anything. Just a typical war lover dying to shoot your gun.
Yea they will get all the goodies from our gov,Because obama is going to take from the rich and give to the poor,And the ones that wont work will have a check food stamps medical card and the working people will work and give and give and give to keep them sorry asses up,Are you stupid? O yea LKLP Transportation.O yea hell yea going to shoot my many weapons your way, Dont cry if you hear something loud, Just exercising my god given rights, Amen. Now try to take that away from me, HA,HA,HA, Kill Roy was here!
Vietnam

Campbellsville, KY

#50 Nov 13, 2012
Dave wrote:
@Vietnam
I hear people always talking about lazy aliens, but I have 2 Mexican families living in my neighborhood and every one of them have jobs. The rest of the WHITE people, about half, are on food stamps and WON'T work if you offer them a job. And, one day you'll hear lazy aliens won't work, then the next it's stupid aliens taking our jobs. Which is it!! As for voting. Hate to tell ya, but you can't vote if you're not an American
citizen, so the ILLEGAL aliens aren't voting, or
even getting more rights, because if you aren't a
citizen, you HAVE no rights under the law. BUT,
if they become citizens, that means they have to
pay taxes and are subject to the same laws as everyone else. So, if they have to pay taxes and have the same laws, why SHOULDN'T they be allowed to vote and have the same rights? If you're such a good American, you should know that. I pay taxes up the butt, work every day, but I'd much rather try to help an alien who's TRYING to work and help his family, than give it to a carreer welfare recipient who's NEVER paid taxes. Ppl on welfare don't even pay taxes to this country, but people will bitch at aliens for living here, even if they're WORKING. And most of the ones bitching are on welfare, paying NOTHING in! and if you're working, most likely you're
paying taxes. And you're blaming the illegal aliens, in part, for electing Obama. Please tell me how you can say that, when illegals don't have the right to vote. But like I said, if they have their citizenship, then yes, they should have that right. I think you're doing a lot of talking out your ass and so far don't seem to know anything. Just a typical war lover dying to shoot your gun.
Whats wrong with there country,Mexico, O yea! They need to take up arms against there gov in mexico and the drug dealers, We would! Thats the difference, I am an American! Hell yea.And i did not vote for santa clause.
Holy Bullet

Campbellsville, KY

#51 Nov 13, 2012
Vietnam wrote:
<quoted text>Put all gays on an island and see if the population grows?God help YA!
You are so dam right!Would you want your little boy staying with two men kissing and loving on each other,Rubbing each others ass, tounging each other O baby i love the way you do things to me,Do you want your child confused, Dont you think this would do that? Man this shit aint right.Vietnam you are so dam right!
Jayne

Liberty, KY

#52 Nov 13, 2012
Vietnam wrote:
<quoted text>Put all gays on an island and see if the population grows?God help YA!
Ya notice how he said "...right to BARE arms"? Lol. Did he mean right to wear a tank top? Or a wife beater? Ohhh, he meant "the right to BEAR arms". I really wish these people who get on here and act like know it alls, would at least learn how to spell or know the constitution. You noticed how he blamed illegal aliens, who don't have the right to vote, for re-electing Obama? They don't even know their own constitution,but they wanna tell everyone how to make it better. And you're right, they want freedom for everyone, as long as it's "freedoms" that they approve of. Umm I think that's kinda like what we already have. Wow, imagine some of these people taking over!! My god, help us all!
laws

Lexington, KY

#54 Nov 13, 2012
Signing that petetion is considered an act of treason and punishable by death!!
joker

Hyden, KY

#56 Nov 14, 2012
laws wrote:
Signing that petetion is considered an act of treason and punishable by death!!
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Since: Nov 12

Baldwin Park, CA

#57 Nov 14, 2012
tosaythis wrote:
who ever thought of this is crazy as hell I say if you all don't want to live in the us move!!!
Yea, we just leave the country that our family has worked for 300+ years because it's going to shit like some Mexicans instead of try to save at least our state?

Go eat cyanide man.
lol

Sassafras, KY

#58 Nov 14, 2012
questions wrote:
<quoted text>do you expect a cookie because you work? you're supposed to work. God made it that way. you love your job? that's great! but when they lay you off will you move away to mine somewhere else becasue you love what you do? or stick around and complain like the other whining wives? you know the day is coming - i hope you put some back because in a few more months hundreds of miners will be off the check and jobs will be scarce. hell yeah angel - i deserve to have a say in how my taxmoney is being scattered around!
First of all I don't expect a cookie, but a little respect would be nice. Everyone that works hard or just simply attains a job for that matter deserves respect. I plan on moving wherever it is necessary for me to continue using the skills that I have spent hours in classes to earn my certification. I did not simply learn my trade underground, I have taken more than 300 hours of training and classes. I didn't say you didn't have a right to say where "your tax money goes", but in reality the only person who has a say is the government to which you pay those taxes. My statement wasn't an attack, but given the nature of this website, every statement is an attack. I apologize that you have taken this the wrong way. I just hope you or the people you care about don't have to sit and worry about your job like my family and I do. Yes I can put back and pack up and head out, but my loyalty lies in my community and I hope that things change. However, with our current administration I do not believe this will happen.

Since: Nov 12

Baldwin Park, CA

#59 Nov 14, 2012
You don't deserve respect because you got a job. You deserve respect because you do upstanding things. Getting a job and whoring your time out makes your a prostitute.
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
First of all I don't expect a cookie, but a little respect would be nice. Everyone that works hard or just simply attains a job for that matter deserves respect. I plan on moving wherever it is necessary for me to continue using the skills that I have spent hours in classes to earn my certification. I did not simply learn my trade underground, I have taken more than 300 hours of training and classes. I didn't say you didn't have a right to say where "your tax money goes", but in reality the only person who has a say is the government to which you pay those taxes. My statement wasn't an attack, but given the nature of this website, every statement is an attack. I apologize that you have taken this the wrong way. I just hope you or the people you care about don't have to sit and worry about your job like my family and I do. Yes I can put back and pack up and head out, but my loyalty lies in my community and I hope that things change. However, with our current administration I do not believe this will happen.
Donna

Liberty, KY

#60 Nov 14, 2012
Hah wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm gonna be honest with you... I didn't read a word of that.
I wouldn't expect you to. After all, it's more than two sentences and judging from what I've seen, that's wayyy more reading than you're used to.
Ellen

Liberty, KY

#61 Nov 14, 2012
Vietnam wrote:
<quoted text>Yea they will get all the goodies from our gov,Because obama is going to take from the rich and give to the poor,And the ones that wont work will have a check food stamps medical card and the working people will work and give and give and give to keep them sorry asses up,Are you stupid? O yea LKLP Transportation.O yea hell yea going to shoot my many weapons your way, Dont cry if you hear something loud, Just exercising my god given rights, Amen. Now try to take that away
from me, HA,HA,HA, Kill Roy was here!
Are you seriously asking someone if they're stupid?? You're about the stupidest sob I've ever heard! You sound like one of those ppl who knows absolutely nothing, but raves on and on about things they hear other ppl say. I hate to break it to ya, but working pl have been paying taxes to support the food stamp-ers and check drawers since the 60's, when KENNEDY started it all, so as much as I can't stand Obama, that's not something he created. And like the other person said, if foreigners become legal and start paying taxes like other working ppl, then they're entitled to the same things we are. It's hypocritical to say it's ok for them to work and pay taxes, but they can't be treated as Americans. I know LOTS of so called foreigners who've been in the military and FOUGHT for this country. Some even gave their lives. But the point is, we do need to fix this country, but crazies like you, who just spew hatred and try to cause more problems, are not the answer. We need leadership, and I dont think YOU'D be able to lead your dog out to pee! You remind me of all the crazies you see with high powered rifles on rooftops! And you don't even KNOW any FACTS!
Mark

Liberty, KY

#62 Nov 14, 2012
Vietnam wrote:
<quoted text>Yea they will get all the goodies from our gov,Because obama is going to take from the rich and give to the poor,And the ones that wont work will have a check food stamps medical card and the working people will work and give and give and give to keep them sorry asses up,Are you stupid? O yea LKLP Transportation.O yea hell yea going to shoot my many weapons your way, Dont cry if you hear something loud, Just exercising my god
given rights, Amen. Now try to take that away
from me, HA,HA,HA, Kill Roy was here!
Have you been in the jungle the last 50 years!? The welfare, food stamps, med cards have been around for 50 years. Obama didn't start that. And are you seriously complaining about lklp transportation? 90 percent of the people who use this are old, sick people who have to go to the dr or store. And I don't think having a house full of guns is a "god given right" god isn't for violence. Guns are a privilege given to people by man, not god. I think it's ok to have a gun to protect your home, but not have so many you look like an armory! I think in the hands of a person like you, that would be a disaster. You'd prob try to shoot everything that moves! You don't even sound like you know what you're talking about.
Jayne

Liberty, KY

#63 Nov 14, 2012
Vietnam wrote:
<quoted text>Whats wrong with there country,Mexico, O yea! They need to take up arms against there gov in mexico and the drug dealers, We would! Thats the difference, I am an American! Hell yea.And i did not vote for santa clause.
If somebdy was being chased, and somebody trying to take away their stuff, trying to kill them and they were just one person with 5 or 6 trying to kill them and they came to your door, would you turn them away and say "sorry, go back to your own house. Maybe you can keep them away with brooms and mops"? That's why a lot of ppl come to America. Because their govt won't let them have any kind of life and if you speak out, you go to prison or die! And you say " take up arms against the govt, we would!" how do you know we could? We never HAD TO. we come from a country that even with all it's faults, still allows us to worship where we choose, we have the right to speak our mind(some over-abuse this), we can own our own homes and cars and have basic freedoms. Some ppl in this country have no idea how bad other ppl in other countries have it. They come here because they hear stories about "the land of the free" and "the American dream" and these ppl just want a chance to raise their kids in a place where they won't be scared their whole lives. We've all become so used to freedom that we forget what it's like for those who have no freedom. How could anybody turn someone away if they're willing to work and pay taxes in order to have those freedoms?
maria

Lexington, KY

#64 Nov 14, 2012
The Truth wrote:
This is stupid! The white men can't stand a black man being President is all this is!
This I have to disagree with, white people are the minirty now not the black, we don't get a dang thing for our color and most of us came from the Indians who was here first, stupidity has a lot to do with our disapporaval of Obama, he is just plain stupid and he don't care nothing about you or me either.

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