A double negative? You can't show that there IS a "Him," therefore I can't show how it was started without a "Him?" It feels less like a stalemate than one of us is playing checkers and the other is playing chess.<quoted text>
But yet you can't say how it all got started without Him.
Physics and logic do not always seem to happily co-exist, yet you would like to presume that "before" space and time, God was "there."