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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 156440 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Question, Explore, Discover”

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#98951 Apr 8, 2013
curious wrote:
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Evolution has been refuted by many scientists and scholars. That there are other scientists and scholars that still maintain a belief in evolution,is also true.
Obviously,I did not make myself very clear,or at least,not clear enough to your limited understanding.
Your limited unmderstanding is further confirmed,by trying to
tell me what it was that I experienced,since your opinion is based on something you know absolutely nothing about,thereby making you the least qualified to voice an opinion.
Moreover,since you need resort to insults,in order to justify your factless theory , let me leave you with this thought.
If Evolution is true,then one can conclude that YOUR intellect could evolve into a more sophisticared intellect,in which case,YOU would probably evolve back to YOUR origins,nonintelligent matter.
I don't understand how Creationists can make these types of nutty claims. "Factless theory"?? Have you ever cracked the spine of a biology book that didn't come from a church's printing press?

And you lead with a terrible false equivocation. Your characterization of the "debate" in science over this issue is just flatly WRONG. There are some people who have scientific credentials who reject evolution. True. Most of them are not biologists and do not have expertise in the field of biology. A few of them do. But to compare that gaggle of idiots to the f*cking OVERWHELMING community of disparate, professional scientists who not only accept the theory but are constantly challenging it with new information...that's a bold faced lie, dude.

Why are Creationist so dishonest?? It's infuriating.

“Question, Explore, Discover”

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#98952 Apr 8, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
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True Bible knowledge knows the Earth is more than 6,000 years old. The Bible does not state how old the earth is! The account starts in the Bible book of Genesis by saying "In the begenning God created the heavens and the earth." Then it goes forward to preparing the earth for habitation...plant life, animal life then Humans! Humans have been on earth near 6,000 years and the fossil record supports that fact! The Bible is not at odds with Scientific fact but it does not support the fairy tale of evolution. Some try to pass off Evolution as scientific fact but nothing could be farther from the truth!
So you are an Old Earth Creationist? God starts on Day One, then billions of years pass before Day Six? No indication in the text of that being the case. Such a view requires you, a human, to inject your own reasoning into God's word. Very naughty.

Also, humans have been on the earth well over 150,000 or 200,000 years, not 6000. If you think the fossil record indicates 6000 then you need to check the record again. That 6000 year date comes from the nuthuts that count the "begats" in the OT. That's Young Earth Creationism.
TruthIs

Manchester, KY

#98953 Apr 8, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>You make it sound like science and your cult are the same thing. Science does not blindly believe rather science disbelieves and tries to prove facts wrong.
And your "ape chart" was created by christians to try to discredit science. Yet another fraud propaganda from your cult.
Thank God...someone needed to point out just how ignorant that "we came from duh apes" theory was.
TruthIs

Manchester, KY

#98954 Apr 8, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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There was no Eve, there was no garden of eden and there is no satan or devil.... That pretty much does away with that post....
There was no Admiral Menéndez, Captain Jean Ribault, no Native Americans, no land of St Augustine and no ships either.
That pretty much does away with your irrationality.

Worm.
TruthIs

Manchester, KY

#98955 Apr 8, 2013
GWB wrote:
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Then by your understanding you have refuted most religious beliefs.
James 2:19
You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror.
See faith and fear are synonymous.
Good luck with your beliefs.
California should be filtering salt out of ocean water and using it to water with, rather than depleting the Colorado river dry at alarming ratios.

WTH is the matter with you people anyway, geez.
TruthIs

Manchester, KY

#98956 Apr 8, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Actually evolution does not teach that man is any greater than other animals,but the bible certainly does.
Most Christains believe a god created the whole universe just for them.
BTW, many who believe in evolution also believe in gods.
Seems to me it takes quite an imagination to believe a god did anything.
No excuses (and THAT is an excuse)

I've never seen a critter read a book.

Worm.
TruthIs

Manchester, KY

#98957 Apr 8, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Egg. Why would you assume this could have no answer?
Wow..hmm.... I was looking at a chicken one day-and the next day I was looking at the chicken AND an egg.

(You don't know either!)
TruthIs

Manchester, KY

#98958 Apr 8, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So what does Jesus look like?
What did Ceasar look like?

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#98959 Apr 8, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
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I take it your answer is the egg! Then what kept the egg warm so it could hatch? That's why I know that evolution does not have the answers!
Egg have been around long before any chickens were around. Birds evolved from dinosaurs. Chickens are almost identical in bone structure to dinosaurs.
Not all eggs need to be kept warm.
TruthIs

Manchester, KY

#98960 Apr 8, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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Nothing... Eggs were around when there was no land animals at all.. fish lay eggs... Amphibians lay eggs.. So unless you just set rational thought and logic aside Eggs came Millions of years if not Billions of years before dinosaurs, which laid eggs and one genetic line became chickens....
My aquarium is full of viviparous fish. And I KNOW I saw the chicken fist, and Then the egg.
TruthIs

Manchester, KY

#98961 Apr 8, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Egg have been around long before any chickens were around. Birds evolved from dinosaurs. Chickens are almost identical in bone structure to dinosaurs.
Not all eggs need to be kept warm.
Chicken eggs however, do!

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#98962 Apr 8, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>Right, I certainly don't agree. For one thing, printing was around since 1450 and the BoM was like 1830. That's a 400 year difference. What makes 1830 so special?

Also, there are other new religions invented in the modern era that are closer to the internet, which is a far, far more powerful advance than printing ever was. By your argument, Scientology has a greater claim to being the word of God since it was invented in the 20th century much closer in time to the internet than the LDS.

That sort of thinking is fallacious because you are beginning with an answer (Mormon is right) and looking for things you believe support your evidence. Confirmation bias plays a role. For example, if there had been some amazing advance in medicine in 1830 that changed the world forever Mormons would constantly claim that it was due to the restoration of the church. But the fact is stuff happens all the time. Why does it have to be about your religion?

Also, most other Protestant faiths have the same claim that you have. They all believe theirs is in direct lineage from the original church. Otherwise, of course, they would admit to following a false religion. So that claim HAS to be made for legitimacy.

Anyway, thanks for the conversation. Very interesting.
Not disagreeing with you that it could easily be coincidence. I just believe that God was preparing the way in His own time. Even the foundation of a free country where the Gospel could be brought forth looks like God's hand at work to me.

And as for the Protestant statement, they should know their own roots.
First, the Bible says you can't grow good fruit from a dead tree. They all believe the Catholic Church was a dead tree.
The founders of both the Baptist and Wesleyan Church readily admitted that Christ's true church was no longer on the earth and would not be unless angels came to restore it.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#98963 Apr 8, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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Nonsense. Marriage is about two consenting adults entering into a contract that is both legally and socially binding. This impending change will not affect that fact. This is just an acknowledgement that biology and reality do not care about tradition and sometimes traditions must change in order to make a more moral world.
You're smarter than this, Q. Weak slippery slope arguments are beneath you.
Q is against gay marriage because he is a republican. He must tow the party line. Note how he is perfectly logical in his arguments on religion, yet keeps failing to be logical when debating politics. That is what happens when someone tries to make his preconceived beliefs sound reasonable. This is why the god believers keep failing the logic test.

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98964 Apr 8, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
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There was no Eve, there was no garden of eden and there is no satan or devil.... That pretty much does away with that post....
My mother-in-law says that I am Satan.
Your post is the reality. If people would just get over the "god" thing we could have peace on earth

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#98965 Apr 8, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Egg have been around long before any chickens were around. Birds evolved from dinosaurs. Chickens are almost identical in bone structure to dinosaurs.
Not all eggs need to be kept warm.
Can you explain how a fish laid an egg that produced a chicken? Was there an amphibious chicken in the interim?

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#98966 Apr 8, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Can you explain how a fish laid an egg that produced a chicken? Was there an amphibious chicken in the interim?
TThere where billions of years and many ancestors between the fish and chicken. Also the life in the water was not like the little fish in an aquarium.
Dinosaurs turned in to birds I can not tell you how but it took a long time not ten years
TruthIs

Manchester, KY

#98967 Apr 8, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>My mother-in-law says that I am Satan.
Your post is the reality. If people would just get over the "god" thing we could have peace on earth
lol

If people get over Themselves, and quit trying to blame their OWN STUPIDITY off on other people, things might get a little better again.

Gaw I can't stand that junior high level Mentality kind of chit.

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#98970 Apr 8, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>TThere where billions of years and many ancestors between the fish and chicken. Also the life in the water was not like the little fish in an aquarium.
Dinosaurs turned in to birds I can not tell you how but it took a long time not ten years
Just wondering what this chicken's changes looked like. Are there any fossils of a half fish, half chicken creature?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

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#98971 Apr 8, 2013
do whut wrote:
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Just wondering what this chicken's changes looked like. Are there any fossils of a half fish, half chicken creature?
Are there any fossils of half human, half chicken creatures? I've see statues of them on certain buildings.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

Manchester, KY

#98972 Apr 8, 2013
Yiago wrote:
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Nonsense.
Nonsense. Marriage is about two consenting adults entering into a contract that is both legally and socially binding. This impending change will not affect that fact. This is just an acknowledgement that biology and reality do not care about tradition and sometimes traditions must change in order to make a more moral world.
You're smarter than this, Q. Weak slippery slope arguments are beneath you.
Slippery Slopes are one of the Best Arguments on issues... I can show many a slippery slope that started as a toe in the door law or policy that has become ominous....

a year from now, 10 years from now, 15 years from now after Marriage sets the precedent as being two women or two men along comes a Mormon with 3 wives and files for a marriage lic ... His Argument before the court that changed the definition of marriage is ....

"Nonsense. Marriage is about consenting adults entering into a contract that is both legally and socially binding. This impending change will not affect that fact. This is just an acknowledgement that biology and reality do not care about tradition and sometimes traditions must change in order to make a more moral world."

Then in a few more years after goats are given Rights... It's an ugly slope...

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