Hayward Police: Man Had Sex With At L...

Hayward Police: Man Had Sex With At Least 2 Teens

There are 45 comments on the NBC 11 San Francisco Bay Area story from Apr 30, 2008, titled Hayward Police: Man Had Sex With At Least 2 Teens. In it, NBC 11 San Francisco Bay Area reports that:

Hayward police officials said Monday that a mother contacted them, saying she suspected Union City man Andy William Edmond, 33, of having sex with her 15-year-old daughter in her home.

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Like It Or Not

San Jose, CA

#1 May 1, 2008
In this report, I don't see anything about RAPE. This sounds like the young ladies, gave consent. I know, I know, the age of consent is 18. However, if you read, you know that girls and boys are having sex as young as 12 and some even younger. That being said, I am in no way condoning what this man did, he is an adult he knows what he was doing was wrong. It also appears that the young ladies knew exactly what they were doing. I know, and I'm sure you know, of young girls 15,16,17 years old who are having sex with 18,19,20+ year old men who are their boy friends. Most of these girls use some type on birth control provided to them by their parents,schools,and clinics. So in essence these parents and yes even our schools and society are giving consent for these children to have illegal sex. Sad but true, and most of you who read this know it is true. Again, I am no way condoning what this man did. But facts are facts. This is just what today's society has become. Like it or not.
use to like older men

San Francisco, CA

#2 May 1, 2008
I agree. When I was a teenager, I liked older guys - I was attracted to them. I thought they were "more mature". I met a guy that lied to me about his age - I was 15, he was 28. I still had sex with him and he never pressured me into anything.
I have a daughter (age 9) now and the thought of her doing those things or someone taking advantage of her like that infuriates me...however, I am smart enough to understand that these kids nowadays know what sex is...they aren't dumb. I have to agree with you..doesn't make it right but it's the way it is these days.
This guy obvioulsy had some underlying intentions and wasn't doing anyone any "favors" but himself...but really, isn't that what boys learn at a really early age to get what they want? The goal just changes with age...i.e. sex. To lie and cheat just to get laid is what guys do. I must say, I'm 31 now & have no attraction to 16 yr. old boys, nor to older men anymore! I've found my balance...too bad this guy didn't! He'll have a hard time doing anything as a registered sex offender. Ouch.
Under Age Is Under Age

United States

#3 May 1, 2008
We call this a Predator.
In the long run he will get what is coming to him, be it by the Law or when he does end up doing his time and finds a whole Penetentary full of men that have children this age and explain to him in their words what is really wrong with this situation. I have had the oppurtunity to explain this to a couple of guy`s. I did have a daughter that was that age when I was in a spot I would never go back to and could not take care of her the way I should of been. This is when you run into someone like this and that is when you are that father that can not get to this guy because he is behind bars. It does not make up for not being there for my own daughter, but at the time it was the right thing to do...
Reverend Alan

United States

#4 May 2, 2008
Like It Or Not wrote:
In this report, I don't see anything about RAPE. This sounds like the young ladies, gave consent. I know, I know, the age of consent is 18. However, if you read, you know that girls and boys are having sex as young as 12 and some even younger. That being said, I am in no way condoning what this man did, he is an adult he knows what he was doing was wrong. It also appears that the young ladies knew exactly what they were doing. I know, and I'm sure you know, of young girls 15,16,17 years old who are having sex with 18,19,20+ year old men who are their boy friends. Most of these girls use some type on birth control provided to them by their parents,schools,and clinics. So in essence these parents and yes even our schools and society are giving consent for these children to have illegal sex. Sad but true, and most of you who read this know it is true. Again, I am no way condoning what this man did. But facts are facts. This is just what today's society has become. Like it or not.
ALAN: Sounds more like you are saying it is illegal then that it is wrong. Which I agree with. It may be illegal, but that does not make it wrong. Chirstian fundies just got Canada to raise its age of consent from 14 to 16. California raised the age from 12 to 14, then to 16 and now 18. If Christians want everyone in prison why don't they just raise it to 21?
Reverend Alan

United States

#5 May 2, 2008
Under Age Is Under Age: We call this a Predator.

ALAN: Yes, society does call this man a predator. Doesn't mean he preyed on the girls. For many years what this man did was perfectly legal. Only in the last few year has the age of consent been raised high enough to make this a crime.

UnderAge: In the long run he will get what is coming to him, be it by the Law or when he does end up doing his time and finds a whole Penetentary full of men that have children this age and explain to him in their words what is really wrong with this situation.

ALAN: Of course no one should have sex with someone under the age of 18 years but only because it is illegal. Right and wrong doesn't matter, it is illegal and that is that. But because fanatics can not make the distinction between rape, violence and the use of force versus an underage willing participant many people are going to be punished over and beyond what is appropriet.

UnderAge: I have had the oppurtunity to explain this to a couple of guy`s. I did have a daughter that was that age when I was in a spot I would never go back to and could not take care of her the way I should of been. This is when you run into someone like this and that is when you are that father that can not get to this guy because he is behind bars. It does not make up for not being there for my own daughter, but at the time it was the right thing to do...

ALAN: You do not provide enough details to comment other than to say that there are 15 year old girls who are interested in 30 year old men. When I was in highschool I knew several. Law enforcement refuses to acknowledge this fact.

How then is it explained that 15 year old girls are putting on strip dances and masterbation video of themselves on the net? Isn't this proof that 15 year old girls want to have sex, know what sex is about and are mature enough to decide for themselves? Of course it is!

Just because Christians hate sex is no reason to make it such that 15 year olds can not decide for themselves. I knew everything I needed to know about sex by the time I was 12 years old and I expect kids today are even smarter [and at a younger age] than I was.

However, if it is illegal, don't do it.
Reverend Alan

United States

#6 May 2, 2008
use to like older men: I agree. When I was a teenager, I liked older guys - I was attracted to them. I thought they were "more mature". I met a guy that lied to me about his age - I was 15, he was 28. I still had sex with him and he never pressured me into anything.

ALAN: So your complaint is that he lied about his age, not that you didn't know what you were doing at age 15. Sounds like a mutually agreeable situation, although an illegal situation.

UsedTo: I have a daughter (age 9) now and the thought of her doing those things or someone taking advantage of her like that infuriates me...however, I am smart enough to understand that these kids nowadays know what sex is...they aren't dumb. I have to agree with you..doesn't make it right but it's the way it is these days.

ALAN: How can you look at your daughter today at 9 years old and think about what you did at age 15? Talk about apples and oranges!

If you were sexually knowledgeable at age 15, it stands to reason that many other 15 year olds were as well. So why does the age to consent keep raising? It was 12 years old, then 14, the 16 and now 18.

What do children who are 15 today think about their own ability to understand what sex is? Do 15 year olds think they are ready today?

UsedTo: This guy obvioulsy had some underlying intentions and wasn't doing anyone any "favors" but himself...but really, isn't that what boys learn at a really early age to get what they want? The goal just changes with age...i.e. sex. To lie and cheat just to get laid is what guys do. I must say, I'm 31 now & have no attraction to 16 yr. old boys, nor to older men anymore! I've found my balance...too bad this guy didn't! He'll have a hard time doing anything as a registered sex offender. Ouch.

ALAN: Was your life ruined such that the 28 year old should have his life ruined by having to register as a sex offender?

You do know that there are registered "sex offenders" who have done nothing more than urinate outdoors. Many are married to the so called "victim" of their crime. We do not help our society when we do not make a distinction between non-violent, peaceful acts between someone under 18 with someone over 18 and violent rapes and murders. Lumping them in all together is insane.

An 18 year old male gets his 17 year old girlfriend pregnant, they do a DNA test. He goes to prison. When he gets out of prison he registers as a sex offender, marries his victim and raises his child. Is this what society needs?

Would you really be terrified if they moved in next door?
Use to like older men

San Francisco, CA

#7 May 2, 2008
Alan - you really sound like you have a chip on your shoulder. Sounds like you might be a registered sex offender, just a hunch. I think you took my writings way out of context. I don't have a clue what you mean by your comment below:

ALAN: How can you look at your daughter today at 9 years old and think about what you did at age 15? Talk about apples and oranges!

My daughter knows the word but now how it is performed - that will come from ME in due time. You are obviously not clued in here as to what I was implying.

As for my having sex with a 28 yr. old...I never said that I think or feel his life should be ruined. What I did say is that he never pressured me into anything, I was a willing participant. Where do you get that? My life wasn't in any way ruined...

Let me tell you a little bit about my knowledge of sex offenders...my uncle is one. He took advantage of little boys in his neighborhood, photograhed them and did who knows what - I've never asked details & don't care to know. He did many years in prison but I don't care to have a relationship with him. These people should be killed. Had he had sex with a 15 yr. old girl in a consentual situation - that would be different. I understand that you can get caught in some really sticky (no pun intended) situations and then BAM all of a sudden, the rest of your life is ruined...but hey, don't do dumb shit and you won't get in trouble. Laws and laws, regardless of whether we agree with them, we must follow them. It is simply cause and affect, consequences for everything. IF this man told these girls that they better not tell or he'd kill their family or something, then that is RAPE but we don't know, do we? Chill out Rev Alan...don't take things and twist them for your argument...or defense.
Reverend Alan

Daly City, CA

#8 May 2, 2008
Use to like older men: Alan - you really sound like you have a chip on your shoulder. Sounds like you might be a registered sex offender, just a hunch.

ALAN: I was completely clear about what I see as wrong. I am shocked you do not see how wrong it is as well.
LikesOlderMen: I think you took my writings way out of context. I don't have a clue what you mean by your comment below:

"ALAN: How can you look at your daughter today at 9 years old and think about what you did at age 15? Talk about apples and oranges!"

ALAN: All I am saying is that there is a difference between the maturity level of a 9 year old and a 15 year old.

LikesOlderMen: My daughter knows the word but now how it is performed - that will come from ME in due time. You are obviously not clued in here as to what I was implying.

ALAN: Maybe you should say what you mean.

LikesOlderMen: As for my having sex with a 28 yr. old...I never said that I think or feel his life should be ruined. What I did say is that he never pressured me into anything, I was a willing participant. Where do you get that? My life wasn't in any way ruined...

ALAN: Again you are impossible to understand. I am agreeing with you that your life wasn't ruined in any way and that his life should not be ruined.

LikesOlder: Let me tell you a little bit about my knowledge of sex offenders...my uncle is one. He took advantage of little boys in his neighborhood, photograhed them and did who knows what - I've never asked details & don't care to know. He did many years in prison but I don't care to have a relationship with him. These people should be killed. Had he had sex with a 15 yr. old girl in a consentual situation - that would be different.

ALAN: In your mind there is a difference, but in the eyes of the law there is no difference.

LikesOlder: I understand that you can get caught in some really sticky (no pun intended) situations and then BAM all of a sudden, the rest of your life is ruined...but hey, don't do dumb shit and you won't get in trouble. Laws and laws, regardless of whether we agree with them, we must follow them.

ALAN: That was my point.

LikesOlder: It is simply cause and affect, consequences for everything. IF this man told these girls that they better not tell or he'd kill their family or something, then that is RAPE but we don't know, do we? Chill out Rev Alan...don't take things and twist them for your argument...or defense.

ALAN: It is impossible to have a clue what you are wanting to say when you are all over the place, you are inconsistent and misinformed.
i know him

Union City, CA

#9 May 5, 2008
i have known andy for over 15 years and this girl was his best frends kid he started this 2 years ago that makes her 13 and him 30 for all of you that somehow find the child at any type of fault have got things twisted he is a child molester and a predator pepole need to remember what you were like at 13 most of us were a little nieve and trusting of pepole we called "uncle"
diane

United States

#11 May 7, 2008
Make CASTRATION a penalty for true sexual crimes... I gaurantee the rate will drop conciderably... god help any man who hurts me or my daughters....
Anonymous

Antioch, CA

#12 May 9, 2008
I can't believe it..................
Anonymous

Antioch, CA

#13 May 9, 2008
i know him wrote:
i have known andy for over 15 years and this girl was his best frends kid he started this 2 years ago that makes her 13 and him 30 for all of you that somehow find the child at any type of fault have got things twisted he is a child molester and a predator pepole need to remember what you were like at 13 most of us were a little nieve and trusting of pepole we called "uncle"
How do you know Andy?
Dreamer

Alameda, CA

#14 May 9, 2008
Life is like a ride in an amusment park,and when you go on it you think it's real because thats how powerful our minds are,and the ride goes up and down around and around it has thrills and chills and its very brightly colored and its very loud and its fun for a while,some have been on the ride for a long time, they begin to question is this real?or is this just a ride, and other people have remembered and they come back to us and they say "HEY DON'T WORRY, DON'T BE AFRAID EVER CAUSE THIS IS JUST A RIDE" and we kill those people "SHUT HIM UP, I'VE GOT A LOT INVESTED IN THIS RIDE, SHUT HIM UP!LOOK AT MY FACE OF WORRY, LOOK AT MY BIG BANK ACCOUNT, AND MY FAMILY THIS HAS TO BE REAL....it's just a ride,but will kill those good guys that try to tell us that,you ever notice that?and let the demons run amuck,but it doesn't matter cause its just a ride and we can change it anytime we want, its only a choice, no effort, no work, no job, no savings of money, just a choice right now between FEAR and LOVE
Anonymous

Antioch, CA

#15 May 10, 2008
Any man who says they've never fantasized about being with a teenager is a BOLD-FACED liar. Any man who would say they would not have sex with a teen even if they knew they would never get caught...is a LIAR!! Andy, unfortunately made the wrong decision of acting on those urges (it is illegal). He should have kept things under control and not have let it gone this far...BUT teenagers these days are VERY sexually advanced especially the girls. They come on to guys VERY strongly. Just take a look at just a few of the myspace profiles out there of young teenage girls. I am utterly shocked at some of the pictures (shall we say nudity) and words they post on their page. In many cases their profiles are more sexually charged than that of an adult's. They KNOW what they are doing! Christ people...we're not talking a 9-year-old here.
Becca

Walnut Creek, CA

#16 May 10, 2008
I dated Andy for two years. We broke up October 4th, 2006. He lived with me for 1 1/2 years out of the 2. I supported him, defended him, believed his lies...he was cheating on me with underage girls, stealing my credit cards and money...always lying. Everyone tried to tell me that he was cheating on me but I insisted he was telling the truth when he denied it. I even had parents of one of the teens calling me and emailing me to tell me that they had proof that he was sleeping with their daughter. I found out from my roommate that he had even brought her to my apartment while I wasn't home one day. I was stupid, and naive, and gullable. After we broke up, I found out that he was hanging out with girls half his age and that he had DEFINATELY cheated on me, and probably with younger girls. But he still wouldn't admit it. The whole thing disgusts me. He took advantage of me...I was 10 years younger than him, but over 18 (I was 19 when we started dating.) He charged around $4,000 on my credit cards. Lived with me for free when he was supposed to help with rent. He was very secretive, always hiding his cell phone and emails. But for some reason, at the time. I cared about him very much, because he was so manipulative and such a great liar. And now that I've seen these articles I only have one thing to say.

Karma is a BITCH.
Becca

Walnut Creek, CA

#17 May 10, 2008
And by the way...he hardly had a life anyway. After I kicked him out of my apartment in Pleasanton he moved in with his friend in Hayward and started sleeping in their garage. Actually he started doing that before we even broke up, probably because he was having sex with his friend's 15 year old daughter, who was madly in love with him...and probably still is...I should call that hot-line they posted in the articles and tell them what I know. He's such a snake, I know the girls probably consented to him just like I did, but he is manipulative and deceitful...and just a horrible person altogether...he probably wanted jail because he lost his job, having his own place, and had too many underage relationships that he could even keep up with...
Becca

Walnut Creek, CA

#18 May 10, 2008
Anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you know Andy?
Wow, so he was sleeping with Matt's daughter while I was still his girlfriend. That is so effing foul and disgusting. GROSS. At least at that point I wasn't sleeping with him anymore.
I'm 23 btw. We started dating the day after my 20th birthday..
Becca

Walnut Creek, CA

#19 May 10, 2008
I can't believe I dated him for as long as I did and brought him into the lives of my friends and family. Sick.
He got what he deserved

San Ramon, CA

#20 May 10, 2008
I know Becca, and I used to be friends with Andy, in fact, i used to work with him and he was incredibly creepy but i never really thought anything of it. I cut him out of my life when I found out what he did to Becca, and then he was STILL messing with a friend of mine who was 17 at that time. I told him he needed to stop doing what he was doing and that he was going to get caught sooner or later. He swore up and down he didnt do anything Becca said he did, but I was smart enough to not believe him (sorry Becca). I'm just happy she got rid of that loser and look what happened to him, hes locked up now. I am happy he finally got what was coming to him.
Friend

Nederland, TX

#22 May 10, 2008
I knew Andy too. He had us all fooled. So glad i cut him out of my life and Becca cut him out too.

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