For People Ages - 70-90 year old's eyes only...
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#1 Apr 4, 2013
That's right, if you are younger than the ages 70-80 years old - just disregard this thread RIGHT NOW!
But, if you are from 70-89 years old (or older)- if you want to reminise a bit - just go to: "Richard Burton Sings Camelot 1978" on Youtube.
Do you remember when John Kennedy & his wife Jackie & their children Caroline & John John were America's CAMELOT??
Do you remember when when the world anxiously awaited to see what ball gown Jackie would wear to the many grand affairs she & her husband (OUR PRESIDENT) attented.
Jackie was the world's sweetheart - and many times it seemed our president John F Kennedy played second fiddle as her escort.
Do you remember Jackie's Chanel suits & pill box hats? Jackie set the standards in fashion for women all over the word for a decade.
Do you remember Jackie's bufont hair-style? Many younger women don't know that it was Jackie Kennedy who first introduced the (teased look) in her bufont hair-style.
Jackie's bufont hairstyle was seen on women all over the world for decades. Even today, some women still wear a bufont hairstyle in various versions.
Do you remember seeing on tv our president & Jackie playing with their beautiful children. Do you remember when his little chidren would play under his desk in the oval office?
Of course, in the midst of all this Camelot - our country did hold our breath through the Cuban Missile Crisis. But, when that situation was under control - we again turned our attention to our CAMELOT FAMILY - John, Jackie, Caroline & John John.
And then, on November 22, 1963 America's CAMELOT came crashing down! On that day John Kennedy was assassinated in the streets of Dallas, TX.
With that - America lost it's CAMELOT - and nothing's been the same since...
After that, came the Viet Nam War, Martin Luther King's assassination, the civil rights unrest.
Yes, it would seem after Pres. Kennedy was gunned down - our country went to hell in a handbasket.
But, we must not forget, that for one brief shining moment - there WAS a CAMELOT...
2013 is the 50th year of JFK's assassination. This will happen on Nov 22, 2013...
#2 Apr 4, 2013
I am not in that age group but I remember it all. There is only one tiny problem with what you are saying. Many people felt the same about Nancy Regan and Barbara Bush.
Do you know why "Camelot existed"? Do you even know why it was called "Camelot"? Because the Kennedy machine attach the name to their time in office, the media liked it and used it. The title stuck.
There is also one tiny flaw in your theory. There was what some would call the "seamy underside" to Camelot. Personally, I would call it humanity but to get to the point. You seem to have forgotten JFK's philandering and that Jackie was a near chain smoker and how there was a lit cigarette ready for her to "sneak" a puff or two when she was out of camera range. Finally, Let's not forget the Bay of Pigs or that Kennedy put the first American troops in Vietnam and was ready to commit more troops there when he was assassination.
When it comes to human beings, nothing will ever be a clean, perfect, and pristine as you have portrayed Camelot to have been.
#3 Apr 4, 2013
Get the heck off my Camelot thread! Your are neither old enough or HAVE ENOUGH SENSE TO APPRECIATE WHAT I AM SAYING HERE!
Leave it to you to try to put an ugly side to this thread. You must have have lived a very empty life...
Thank God, I remember the WONDERFUL THINGS IN LIFE - LIKE CAMELOT.
Because, back then, I had my own CAMELOT - with my husband, our first baby.
I doubt that you ever experienced this kind of joy...
#4 Apr 4, 2013
Please do not try to tell me what to do. You are not my mother, my wife, or my drill sergeant.
You are looking at the world through those lefty colored glasses of yours. You only want to see the good and none of the bad. I noticed you call the points I made ugly but you didn't try to refute any of it.
I was trying to point out to you that while there are good and beautiful things in this world, you have to also see and acknowledge that there are also bad ugly things that go with it, hand in hand. That is one of the flaws of humanity and that is one of the flaws that I someday we, humanity will out grow.
#7 Apr 4, 2013
Here is something to think about if you are 70-90 and if you love Obamacare and if you go to your doctor to use medicare and they say sorry they can't treat your illness because it is no longer covered:
Judge Kithil of Marble Falls, TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200
Please read this....... especially the reference to pages 58 & 59
JUDGE KITHIL wrote:
Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally.
Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts.
Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN).
Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax.(How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)
Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees.
Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration care according to the patient's age.
Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception.
Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years.(Death counseling..)
Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.
HAD ENOUGH???? Judge Kithil then goes on to identify:
"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress.
Honorable David Kithil of Marble Falls , Texas
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Since: Mar 08
#8 Apr 5, 2013
Dr. Max Jacobson – known as Dr. Feelgood – repeatedly injected JFK with dangerous methamphetamine to keep him pain-free from war injuries and alert during his political battles.
But in one terrifying incident, the Commander-in-Chief suffered an overdose resulting in a horrific break from reality, reveal authors Richard Lertzman and William J. Birnes in their book,“Dr. Feelgood”.
Jacobson, who had a Who’s Who list of celebrity clients, had been treating the young President for some time when in the spring of 1962 he was called to New York City’s Carlyle Hotel – and things went terribly wrong.According to the authors, the shady doc overdosed the Leader of the Free World.
“After Jacobson left the Carlyle, the President, who at first felt invigorated and vibrant, suddenly began suffering from a serious psychotic reaction to the drugs and became manic,” they write.“It was an absolute psychotic break. He peeled off all of his clothing and began prancing around his hotel suite.” The Secret Service became alarmed when he left the suite and began roaming the corridor.
“He was completely naked, on the verge of paranoia, and feeling so free of pain.”
Dr. Lawrence Hatterer, a Big Apple psychiatrist, was called. He later stated he saw the President “in a manic condition furiously waving his arms and running around without any clothes on.” Hatterer recognized “drug-induced mania,” the authors write.
He then injected Kennedy with an antipsychotic and another drug that calmed him down.
JFK first fell into Dr. Feelgood’s clutches in 1960 after an introduction from his Harvard roommate, Chuck Spalding.
In the middle of his fierce presidential campaign the U.S. Senator from Massachusetts felt drained, fatigued, weak and was coming down with laryngitis. He was soon to face his Republican rival Richard Nixon in America’s first televised debate.
JFK told Feelgood he drank a lot, took phenobarbital for his irritable bowel syndrome, cortisone steroids for his Addison’s disease, painkillers for his back, sleeping aids, antibiotics for various infections – and was being treated by Dr. Janet Travell for back pain with procaine injections.
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Since: Mar 08
#9 Apr 5, 2013
Jacobson promised his “vitamin cocktail” would help with everything and relieving stress was one of his specialties.
The authors say the drug-dealing doc knew the powerful stimulant might be dangerous to JFK – but “it was a risk Jacobson was willing to take.”
JFK didn’t give a second thought to what was in the syringe and experienced what Truman Capote had described as “instant euphoria. You feel like Superman,” the authors write. That was just the ticket JFK needed! Jacobson gave him a vial of “vitamin” drops – another dose of methamphetamine – that he could take orally before his face-off with Nixon.
BUT that wouldn’t be enough for Kennedy, who visited the doc on the evening of the debate in September 1960.
“This time, Jacobson inserted his needle directly into Kennedy’s throat and pumped methamphetamine into his voice box,” the book says.
After Kennedy won the presidency, Jacobson was invited to inaugural events, where he met an upcoming patient, Jackie Kennedy. JFK even asked Jacobson to join him for the Vienna Summit with Nikita Khrushchev in 1961.
Shortly before the trip, the doctor’s shabby medical offices were ransacked by the KGB looking to confirm reports Kennedy was taking drugs. Vienna turned out to be a disastrous trip. Khrushchev was late and by the time he arrived, Kennedy had taken three injections of methamphetamine that caused “an almost stupor-like depression.”
Kennedy would later describe the meeting as the worst day of his life.
Still, he asked Jacobson to move into the White House so he’d always be close by. But Feelgood declined, not wanting to give up his New York practice and his other A-list clients.
Before he died in 1979, Jacobson had hooked the likes of Marlene Dietrich, Liz Taylor, Judy Garland, Ingrid Bergman, Hedy Lamarr, Arlene Francis and Rosemary Clooney, the authors write.
Marilyn Monroe, another of Jacobson’s victims, came down with stage fright on the big night in May 1962 she was to sing Happy Birthday to the President at Madison Square Garden – so Jacobson shot her up.
But perhaps the most frightening thing of all, the authors write,“In the eyes of the CIA, Jacobson’s injections had put the office of the presidency, the nation, and perhaps the entire civilized world, at risk.”
Since: Oct 12
#10 Apr 5, 2013
Alumni I wouldnt worry with what the usual have to say. I don’t argue with people who I can remove from my life by pressing a button.
#11 Apr 5, 2013
Very well put,i remember camelot very well.I also remember when our president was assainated and how things changed in this country.The Kenedeys wern,t perfect,but who is?We all have our skeletons in the closet.The Kenedys were good honest people,who are missed by lots of people.
#12 Apr 5, 2013
Guest that is what I was saying. I said that while on the surface, Camelot was a great thing but, as always with human beings, there was a seamy underside and you have to temper you view of Camelot knowing that the seamy underside is there. Nothing humans great will ever be perfect because by there very nature humans are not perfect.
#13 Apr 5, 2013
I'm getting embarassed even dignifying your drivel with a reaponse, but I will make an exception in this case.
I'm going to say this one more time in a way that maybe you'll understand.
I hardly expected you to come on this thread (since you're not even 70 yrs old). But, it seems you must get on every post I make & SHOW YOUR ASS!
And I'm really getting sick & tired of it! Why don't you buzz off - you're way out of your league here. You don't have a clue what I'm talking about in this thread - obviously, you don't have sense enough!
You are so clueless about what I'm talking about in this thread that it's getting EMBARASSING. Yes, it is downright embarassing to even respond to such an ignorant stupid idiot!
Why don't you do us all a favor and give it a rest...
#14 Apr 5, 2013
Are you trying to be cute? or are you trying to be funny.
THERE IS NOT ONE WORD OF TRUTH IN GARBAGE YOU POSTED.
Where did this come from - some radical right-wing rag?
If you believe this crap - you need help.
THIS TYPE OF GARBAGE HAS NO PLACE ON THIS THREAD - OR EVEN ON TOPIX FORUM.
Stay off my thread!!!
#15 Apr 5, 2013
You do realize that your condescending talk and insults only taint you and not me, as I won't sink to that level.
If you feel you have made a point that I have not understood, show it to me.
All I was talking about was that when your do the hero worship you showed, you had better also take in that your hero has clay feet.
What you have done is bow down to the altar of the Democratic Party and a Democratic demigod, paying him undue homage without realizing the full truth. Should a philandering cheater be give as much adoration as you gave him? Every time a Republican is caught in a sex scandal you are so quick to gloat about it but you want to scream the praises of Democrats who were part of sex scandals of their own.
So, let's get to the bottom line and let's get your final take on something.
Is it okay for men to philander around, to lie and cheat on their wives and have affairs? This is a relatively easy question and one you should be able to answer with a simple yes or a no. I seriously doubt that you will give one. More than like I am expecting you to spin this to give a sermon about what a paragon of virtue your husband was and how he would never have cheated on you.
#16 Apr 5, 2013
You don't have the right to tell people where they can or can't post. Ever hear of the first amendment? Freedom of speech sound familiar?
Not a word of truth in what he posted? REally? Really? Really?
Perhaps you should read this:
#17 Apr 5, 2013
Oh I should point out one thing to you also Alumni.
This is a thread you own but it is owned by Topix and they have an open door policy. The thread belongs to Topix and so anyone can post on it. If you don't like it, take it up with Topix.
#18 Apr 5, 2013
I refuse to dignify your post by even reading it - much less responding to it. I stopped after reading the first two sentences.
This is not what this thread is about - of course, I realize you don't HAVE ENOUGH SENSE TO KNOW ANY BETTER.
One time you said you thought you & I could be very good neighbors.
I don't think so - because obviously, you are from the wrong side of the track. You're the kind of person I wouldn't have allowed my kids to be around when they were young. You are also the kind of person I wouldn't be caught dead talking to on the street.
Are you getting the point - you're just not in the same class as me (and I'm not talking financially).
Your response to this thread is VERY TELLING. In fact, the three people who've responded to this thread have showed their true colors.
I put this thread on Topix as a sort of test. I knew this thread would separate the men from the boys (so to speak). And believe me, you've all failed miserably.
You three responders (to this thread) are just a sample of the JUVENILE MENTALITY of all three of you - and it's also a sample of the type of people who make up your so-called conservative party.
This type of childish stupid behavior is what lost your party the election last Novermber. And this type of stupid childish behavior is what will loose the next presidential election & the next, the next, and the next...
#19 Apr 5, 2013
I won't dignify your post by even reading or responding to it. I stopped reading after the 1st sentence. Where did this come from some right-wing rag??
Your response has nothing to do with what this thread was about. Are you sure you're posting on the right thread???
#20 Apr 5, 2013
I won't dignify your post by even reading it - much less responding to it. I stopped after the first sentence.
Are you sure you're posting on the right thread - your response has nothing to do with the subject matter of this thread.
#21 Apr 5, 2013
Awww gee, my feelings are hurt. Alumni ignored my responses to her responses.
#22 Apr 5, 2013
Thank you for your reply - it seems you really understand what I'm talking about here. Maybe it was because I was young & my husband & I were just starting our family (we had a 2 yr old son) and were expecting our second son. I could really identify with the Kennedy's in a personal way as I watched this young family & their children.
I was such a fan of Jackie & Pres. Kennedy - it was almost like hero worship. I think a lot of people felt that way about the Kennedys back then.
Anyway, Pres. Kennedy's assassination really changed this country (forever). It seems we will never get back that same feeling of security that we had before this happened. Yes, we lost our Camelot when we lost Pres. Kennedy...
Thank you for responding.
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