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“GOP Redistribution is Fascism”

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#1 Jul 12, 2013
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-l-borosa...

Conservative Republicans have turned the farm bill -- normally a bipartisan grotesquerie of agribusiness subsidies and excess -- from legislation to identity politics. They wanted to make a statement, even though they knew it couldn't survive the Senate or the White House veto. They passed it anyway -- without one Democratic vote -- to proclaim this is who we are.

Who are they? They just passed a farm bill that included about $195 billion in subsidies to "farmers" (read: agribusiness) over 10 years, while eliminating food stamps and nutrition programs from the bill as "extraneous."

Forty-seven million Americans receive food stamps. Nearly half are children under 18; nearly 10 percent are impoverished seniors. Food stamps are often the difference between hunger and survival. Republicans famously seem intent on being a party of white sanctuary, writing off all people of color, yet more whites receive food stamps (over one-third of all recipients) than blacks or Hispanics.

This is how they choose to be identified. They will bring the government to a halt to defend against any tax hikes on millionaires, or to fend off the closing of corporate tax shelters. They will vote in lockstep to take the sequester cuts entirely out of domestic programs -- education, clean water, pre-school -- in order to protect a Pentagon budget that remains the biggest source of waste, fraud and abuse in the federal government.

And they will lavish subsidies on agribusiness while throwing children and seniors off the bus. Having stripped food stamps out of the farm bill entirely, they did not even have the common decency to pass any kind of food stamp provision separately. They haven't gotten around to getting a "consensus" on that.

This wasn't intended as legislation. It was intended as a declaration of identity. This is who they are. Think about that.

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#4 Jul 13, 2013
Carlton McLemore wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ robert-l-borosage/republicans- nix-food-stam_b_3585831.html
Conservative Republicans have turned the farm bill -- normally a bipartisan grotesquerie of agribusiness subsidies and excess -- from legislation to identity politics. They wanted to make a statement, even though they knew it couldn't survive the Senate or the White House veto. They passed it anyway -- without one Democratic vote -- to proclaim this is who we are.
Who are they? They just passed a farm bill that included about $195 billion in subsidies to "farmers" (read: agribusiness) over 10 years, while eliminating food stamps and nutrition programs from the bill as "extraneous."
Forty-seven million Americans receive food stamps. Nearly half are children under 18; nearly 10 percent are impoverished seniors. Food stamps are often the difference between hunger and survival. Republicans famously seem intent on being a party of white sanctuary, writing off all people of color, yet more whites receive food stamps (over one-third of all recipients) than blacks or Hispanics.
This is how they choose to be identified. They will bring the government to a halt to defend against any tax hikes on millionaires, or to fend off the closing of corporate tax shelters. They will vote in lockstep to take the sequester cuts entirely out of domestic programs -- education, clean water, pre-school -- in order to protect a Pentagon budget that remains the biggest source of waste, fraud and abuse in the federal government.
And they will lavish subsidies on agribusiness while throwing children and seniors off the bus. Having stripped food stamps out of the farm bill entirely, they did not even have the common decency to pass any kind of food stamp provision separately. They haven't gotten around to getting a "consensus" on that.
This wasn't intended as legislation. It was intended as a declaration of identity. This is who they are. Think about that.
They do need to a separate bill for one of the biggest entitlement programs the politicians have going....food stamps.

A separate bill would "lessen" some of that “grotesquerie.”

Almost looks like our esteemed congressmen have to bribe one another every year to pass the damn bill. Hell, everyone knows we couldn’t survive without a trillion or so dollars worth of food stamps. What would all those healthy young punks buy their drugs and liquor with if the government took the card away.

What’s wrong Carlton, don’t you think something as good for the country as the food stamp program couldn’t get passed without being attached to something like the farm bill?

Sounds like it’s got a little Obamacare in it. Supposed to be better than sliced bread but, dadgumit we can’t import enough Chinese ink for the printing presses now.
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

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#5 Jul 13, 2013
Carlton McLemore wrote:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ robert-l-borosage/republicans- nix-food-stam_b_3585831.html
Conservative Republicans have turned the farm bill -- normally a bipartisan grotesquerie of agribusiness subsidies and excess -- from legislation to identity politics. They wanted to make a statement, even though they knew it couldn't survive the Senate or the White House veto. They passed it anyway -- without one Democratic vote -- to proclaim this is who we are.
Who are they? They just passed a farm bill that included about $195 billion in subsidies to "farmers" (read: agribusiness) over 10 years, while eliminating food stamps and nutrition programs from the bill as "extraneous."
Forty-seven million Americans receive food stamps. Nearly half are children under 18; nearly 10 percent are impoverished seniors. Food stamps are often the difference between hunger and survival. Republicans famously seem intent on being a party of white sanctuary, writing off all people of color, yet more whites receive food stamps (over one-third of all recipients) than blacks or Hispanics.
This is how they choose to be identified. They will bring the government to a halt to defend against any tax hikes on millionaires, or to fend off the closing of corporate tax shelters. They will vote in lockstep to take the sequester cuts entirely out of domestic programs -- education, clean water, pre-school -- in order to protect a Pentagon budget that remains the biggest source of waste, fraud and abuse in the federal government.
And they will lavish subsidies on agribusiness while throwing children and seniors off the bus. Having stripped food stamps out of the farm bill entirely, they did not even have the common decency to pass any kind of food stamp provision separately. They haven't gotten around to getting a "consensus" on that.
This wasn't intended as legislation. It was intended as a declaration of identity. This is who they are. Think about that.
Great post, Carlton!

But, I wonder just how many of those brain-washed Republican WHO ARE ACTUALLY ON FOODSTAMPS THEMSELVES - have the sense to know their BELOVED REPUBLICAN PARTY voted to TAKE THE FOOD OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS???

Since: Sep 08

Neon City Oh.

#6 Jul 13, 2013
Representative Stephen Fincher, a Republican and a farmer from Frog Jump, Tenn., collected nearly $3.5 million in subsidies
He wants to cut food stamps for the needy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/us/politics...
Duh

Caruthersville, MO

#7 Jul 13, 2013
WDRussell wrote:
Representative Stephen Fincher, a Republican and a farmer from Frog Jump, Tenn., collected nearly $3.5 million in subsidies
He wants to cut food stamps for the needy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/us/politics...
As a former (R) it's embarrassing that local farmers get millions to build mansions and buy sports cars or drugs, while ppl go hungry even on food stamps. In Missouri if you get a drug charge you never ever ever again qualify for food stamps... But it's OK to be commit rape, murder, robbery etc. MAYBE Missouri should have drug testing to receive a farm subsidy....
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

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#8 Jul 13, 2013
WDRussell wrote:
Representative Stephen Fincher, a Republican and a farmer from Frog Jump, Tenn., collected nearly $3.5 million in subsidies
He wants to cut food stamps for the needy.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/23/us/politics...
WDRussell,
There you go! Yes, those Republicans want all them GOVERNMENT HANDOUTS THEY CAN GET - yet, when it comes to helping to feed the poor & starving, they draw the line...

Is this really the kind of party MOST OF AMERICANS CAN AFFORD TO SUPPORT??? You've got to keep in mind - many Americans are just A COUPLE OF PAYCHECKS away from being out in the cold & hungry themselves...
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Berlin, MD

#9 Jul 13, 2013
the bill passed by the House on Thursday didn't deal with food stamps at all. And the lack of congressional action on food stamps could keep the $80 billion-a-year program untouched by any cuts.

That didn't stop several Democrats from stating that the legislation "takes food nutrition from working families." House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told Republicans just before the bill passed on a narrow 216-208 vote: "You are taking food out of the mouths of your own poor constituents." More Stupidity and Scare Tactics by the Left!!!!!And Pelosi is such A Drama Slut she needs to take A Valium and Chill!!!!!
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

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#10 Jul 13, 2013
same stuff wrote:
the bill passed by the House on Thursday didn't deal with food stamps at all. And the lack of congressional action on food stamps could keep the $80 billion-a-year program untouched by any cuts.
That didn't stop several Democrats from stating that the legislation "takes food nutrition from working families." House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi told Republicans just before the bill passed on a narrow 216-208 vote: "You are taking food out of the mouths of your own poor constituents." More Stupidity and Scare Tactics by the Left!!!!!And Pelosi is such A Drama Slut she needs to take A Valium and Chill!!!!!
Whooh- there Same Stuff!!!
I can only guess you garnered your information from FOX, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity or some of the rest of the right-wing propaganda machine. YOU NEVER WANT TO REALY ON ANY OF THOSE SOURCES FOR REAL NEWS - BECAUSE, THESE CLOWNS ARE ONLY IN THE ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS!!!

The TRUTH of the matter IS - that Republicans voted to INCREASE FARM SUBSIDIES TO WEALTHY FARMERS BY 1.6 BILLION!- but that same bill also INCLUDED A 3.5 BILLION CUT TO THE FOOD STAMP PROGRAM!!!

You better do a little research before coming on this forum & making a FOOL OF YOURSELF again...
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Berlin, MD

#11 Jul 13, 2013
1961 Alumni Rolla MO wrote:
<quoted text>
Whooh- there Same Stuff!!!
I can only guess you garnered your information from FOX, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity or some of the rest of the right-wing propaganda machine. YOU NEVER WANT TO REALY ON ANY OF THOSE SOURCES FOR REAL NEWS - BECAUSE, THESE CLOWNS ARE ONLY IN THE ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS!!!
The TRUTH of the matter IS - that Republicans voted to INCREASE FARM SUBSIDIES TO WEALTHY FARMERS BY 1.6 BILLION!- but that same bill also INCLUDED A 3.5 BILLION CUT TO THE FOOD STAMP PROGRAM!!!
You better do a little research before coming on this forum & making a FOOL OF YOURSELF again...
The ONLY Fool Ive seen out here is YOU!!! and other Libtards who sit on your brain!! every time you fart its the best thing that comes outta of ya, the crap outta your mouth is pure Bovine Scatology!!!!!

“GOP Redistribution is Fascism”

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#12 Jul 13, 2013
http://youtu.be/eK2TSBz8OiU

Way to go, Congress! Back in June, the GOP-led House of Representatives approved a bill providing millions in farm subsidies, while removing food stamps from the farm bill package entirely. Then, on July 11th, they actually went ahead and passed this travesty of a bill even though it disproportionately penalizes people in their own states! Believe it or not,“red” states are the real welfare states, and the states most dependent on food stamps are all run by Republicans. As those “cheese-eating surrender monkeys” in France might murmur in their cafés over glasses of wine and acrid Gitanes cigarettes,“quel ironie.”

Meanwhile, here in “blue” America, we’re covering our ears against a heavy, clangorous din as millions of jaws drop to the floor. How do these conservatives keep getting away with this crap? Maybe it has something to do with all the vile myths and outright lies churned out by the right wing propaganda machine — oops, I mean,‘media’— on a daily basis. As is generally the case with legislation and sausages, right-wing propaganda is a messy and unappetizing business, and most of us really don’t want to watch it being made. That’s why this video from Media Matters for America is such an eye-opener. After watching this montage of casually callous, ignorant, and appalling statements from Rush Limbaugh and the talking heads at Fox News, you’ll have a better idea of why folks from high-poverty states — like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Missouri, Tennessee, Texas, Florida, South Carolina, North Carolina, Arizona, New Mexico, Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia, Alabama, Maine, and Arkansas — keep voting for these conservative meanies.

The quotes from this lovely video cliptage all center around eight tired, inaccurate, and mean old myths about food stamps and poverty in general:(1) If you need food stamps, you’re a loser and it’s your fault; (2) Liberal politicians promote food stamps so people will become dependent on welfare, and vote for them; (3) People on food stamps aren’t really poor, and don’t really need help; (4) We can’t possibly have hunger in America, because so many Americans are clinically obese; (5) Speaking of which … maybe some of these food stamps recipients should go on a diet; (6) People on food stamps are welfare cheats; (7) Who needs food stamps when we can go dumpster diving?; and (8) Having a social safety net is bad, because it creates a culture of dependency.

1. If you need food stamps, you’re a loser and it’s your fault.
“The image we have of poor people as starving and living in squalor really is not accurate. Many of them have things, what they lack is the richness of spirit.”
– Stuart Varney

Not only does this sort of thinking promote the idea that people are poor for lack of a work ethic and good morals, it also catches those of us who do need help in a vicious cycle of self-hatred, self-blame, and secret shame that encourages us to hate food stamp recipients and vote against welfare programs even while we’re being helped by them. We’re not the ones who should feel ashamed. People who think it’s okay for people to starve and go without basic necessities in a land of wealth and plenty are the ones who should feel ashamed.

2. Liberal politicians promote food stamps so people will become dependent on welfare, and vote for them.
“Re-elect Obama, food stamps for everyone.”
– Laura Ingraham

Obviously, this is not true … otherwise the folks living in the Republican-dominated states listed above would stop voting for these jerks!

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#13 Jul 13, 2013
3. People on food stamps aren’t really poor, and don’t really need help.
“They’re all gonna have a phone, a TV set, a car, and 120 free minutes, and food stamps.”
– Rush Limbaugh

First of all, having a cell phone, television, a car, and food stamps does not make you well-off. We are only able to afford cheap consumer electronics because they’re produced in countries with low wages, unsafe working conditions, and few regulations. Meanwhile, many of us don’t have secure employment any more because globalization’s incessant race to the bottom has unfairly forced us to compete against these workers. Instead of promoting fairness, safety, and higher living standards amongst our trading partners, we’re lowering our own standards. Thanks to Walmart, we can afford to buy lots of cheap, plastic crap. But life’s necessities — like food, housing, healthcare, and gas or transportation remain impossibly expensive for many of us.

4. We don’t have hunger in America, because so many Americans are clinically obese.
“Sixteen MILLION children face a summer of hunger. Now, Michelle Obama told us they’re all so fat and out of shape and overweight that a summer off from government eating might be just the ticket.”
– Rush Limbaugh

“Poor people in America have an obesity problem. And yet, we give more people food stamps.”
– Geraldo Rivera

I can barely even get past the spectacle of a disgustingly obese, cigar-chomping, mean-spirited slob like Rush Limbaugh giving health advice to the less economically fortunate amongst us … but here goes. Believe it or not, it is possible — and increasingly common in America, according to Elaine Watson’s recent article in a trade publication for nutritionists — for us to be obese and malnourished at the same time. That’s because there’s a vast gulf between getting enough — or too many — calories, and getting enough nutrition and exercise. Calories and junk food are cheap. More nutritious foods, like fresh produce, are often more expensive and inaccessible to low-income people living in isolated rural or inner city areas (and who often don’t have cars). Exercise opportunities are also challenging in unsafe and isolated neighborhoods, especially if you have chronic health problems from obesity and malnutrition.

5. Maybe some of these food stamps recipients need to go on a diet.
“I should try it, because, do you know how fabulous I’d look? I’d be SO SKINNY!”
– Andrea Tantaros’s giddy thoughts on taking the food stamps challenge and spending only $130 per month on food.

Squeeeeee! She can look caring AND lose weight! Sounds like a win-win for Tantaros, who is already such a slender wisp of a thing — both physically and mentally — she might flat-out disappear. Which could also be a win-win for the rest of us. What’s not to like?

6. People on food stamps are welfare cheats.
“Remember that lottery guy? Still getting food stamps! Come on!”
– Gerry Willis

This old and tiresome trope started when Ronald Reagan conjured up images of welfare queens driving pink Cadillacs. Funny, I always thought those were Mary Kay saleswomen. But it makes absolutely no sense that this hypothetically undeserving thief would risk felony charges just to scam $130 in food stamps per month. If you’re going to game the system, why not just throw on a suit, work for a bank, and cheat investors and mortgage holders? It’s easier and better paid, plus Wall Street’s white collar criminals almost never do jail time.

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#14 Jul 13, 2013
7. Who needs food stamps when you can go dumpster diving?
“There’s always the neighborhood dumpster. Now you might find competition with homeless people there, but there are videos produced to show you how to healthfully dive and survive until school starts back up in August.”
– Rush Limbaugh

Yikes! If our local homeless population here in San Jose, CA saw Rush Limbaugh’s plumber-butt sticking out of a dumpster, they’d run screaming for the hills. I don’t even know where to begin, because the image of desperate parents digging around in dumpsters to feed their children scraps of moldy food until free school lunches resume is downright Dickensian. Do we seriously want to live in the squalid world of “Oliver Twist“? I’m seriously starting to think our Republicans actually do. I don’t know how Limbaugh caught wind of the Freegan movement (the practice of … um …“reclaiming and eating discarded food”), but this is hardly how we should expect citizens of a supposedly first-world democracy to live.

8. Having a social safety net is bad, and creates a culture of … um … Depends™ency.
“Well, it’s like we’re wearing one, gigantic Depends undergarment. It’s like, hey, we’re America, don’t worry about it. Now, pretty soon we won’t have to go to the bathroom for ourselves.”
– Kimberly Guilfoyle

Is this some new and even more vile version of what “All In The Family‘s” Archie Bunker hilariously malapropped as “tinkle down theory?” Like, if we come together as citizens and build a safety net that catches us when we fall into hard times, we’re literally sh*tting on each other? Like, ew. Thanks for the lovely image, Kimberly Guilfoyle.

Why do we think it’s so horrible for people to take care of each other? Families and human societies have done exactly that since long before civilization began. Having a social safety net to help in times of misfortune — especially when so many people’s fates are determined by huge, global, multi-national corporations and rich people who keep not creating jobs — is a crucial hallmark of civilization. In fact, our ability to form emotional bonds, work together cooperatively, communicate, and form mutually supportive communities is a big part of what supposedly sets humans above other life forms (though the opposable thumbs and more complex/proportionally larger brains certainly help). Since conservatives claim to love Jesus Christ so much, you’d think they’d want us to love and take care of one another the way Jesus so famously taught. Instead, they envision a dark, dystopian world dominated by a sociopathic elite that either uses or crushes everyone in their path. I’d call it “social Darwinism,” if these religious zealots actually believed in Darwin.

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#15 Jul 13, 2013
ComradeWinston wrote:
<quoted text>What would all those healthy young punks buy their drugs and liquor with if the government took the card away.
This is the identity politics the article is referring to Comrade. The Republican Party likes to use food stamps and welfare as racial wedge issues.
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Berlin, MD

#16 Jul 13, 2013
Carlton McLemore wrote:
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This is the identity politics the article is referring to Comrade. The Republican Party likes to use food stamps and welfare as racial wedge issues.
And The Trevon Martin Zimmerman Case is NOT??????

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#17 Jul 14, 2013
Carlton McLemore wrote:
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This is the identity politics the article is referring to Comrade. The Republican Party likes to use food stamps and welfare as racial wedge issues.
as you can guess, I disagree.

Conservatives (mostly republican voters) use the ever growing fiscal irresponsibility of the government, who promise/bribe unsophisticated voters of all colors, goodies that can't be sustained. We're over 17 trillion in debt as a nation and growing. That ever expanding debt, if not addressed, will be the demise of America as we know it. THAT WILL DESTROY THE WELFARE OF US ALL.

we need to get busy encouraging/facilitating the creation of jobs, not unlimited handouts. Food stamps and welfare should be used to eliveate the sufferings of the truly needy, not buy votes or political patronage from voters.

Liberals (mostly democrat voters) are the ones who use race baiting strategies to separate and devide Americans along race, religious and ethnic lines for political gain.

In reality, the government today is protecting no one, but destroying us all.
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#18 Jul 14, 2013
1961 Alumni Rolla MO wrote:
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Great post, Carlton!
But, I wonder just how many of those brain-washed Republican WHO ARE ACTUALLY ON FOODSTAMPS THEMSELVES - have the sense to know their BELOVED REPUBLICAN PARTY voted to TAKE THE FOOD OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS???
Hopefully this will lead to some reform in the program. It's ridiculous that the card works at an ATM and for some fast food. We spend and spend on the food program and still have hungry kids.
Hays attaches a coke or candy bar to a Valentine balloon or an Easter basket and the card works. REALLY?

“GOP Redistribution is Fascism”

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#19 Jul 14, 2013
guest wrote:
<quoted text>
Hopefully this will lead to some reform in the program. It's ridiculous that the card works at an ATM and for some fast food. We spend and spend on the food program and still have hungry kids.
Hays attaches a coke or candy bar to a Valentine balloon or an Easter basket and the card works. REALLY?
I agree with you there. But talking about food stamp "reform" when GE has paid 0% in taxes is laughable, if not criminal.

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#20 Jul 14, 2013
Carlton McLemore wrote:
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I agree with you there. But talking about food stamp "reform" when GE has paid 0% in taxes is laughable, if not criminal.
I agree with that.

Who is coddling the executives and director's of HE with political appointments?

It's not conservative republicans.

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#21 Jul 14, 2013
Should have been GE... android SC stinks
know for sure

Caruthersville, MO

#22 Jul 14, 2013
1961 Alumni Rolla MO wrote:
<quoted text>Great post, Carlton!

But, I wonder just how many of those brain-washed Republican WHO ARE ACTUALLY ON FOODSTAMPS THEMSELVES - have the sense to know their BELOVED REPUBLICAN PARTY voted to TAKE THE FOOD OUT OF THEIR MOUTHS???
You are one bitter biotch! Hope u lose yours and ya starve!

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