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Nort

Florissant, MO

#85396 Jul 20, 2013
Persian legends of Mithras says that He was born of the Sun God and a virgin mother, called "the Mother of God", on December 25th. They saw him as a symbol of justice, truth, and loyalty. He was considered the saviour of humankind, and stories abound of His healing the sick, raising the dead, and performing miracles (making the blind see and the lame walk). Throughout His lifetime, He was seen as a protector of human souls, a mediator between "heaven" and "earth" and was even associated with a "holy trinity". He remained celibate, until the ripe old age of 64, throughout his life and preached the virtues of ethics, moral behavior, and good will. Does this sound familiar? Sure sounds like Jesus.

Ancient Persians believed in a "celestial heaven" and hell. They believed that they would be judged by their god and granted justice of" eternal salvation. On judgment day, the faithful dead would be resurrected and light would triumph over darkness.

They took part in ritual purification or baptism, held Sundays sacred, drank wine and ate bread as a symbol of the body and blood and even took part in ritualistic purging (purification rites such as flagellation).

In their legends, Mithras had an "earthly mission' to accomplish. He then was put to death on a cross and buried in a cave (some legends have Him held in a cave to be reborn once a year).

He then "rose from the dead" and took part in a last supper with his 12 disciples (often associated with the 12 signs of the zodiac) and then ascended to the heavens to watch over His "flock" from above.

The original "Christian" faith became a mix of pagan, Mithraic, and Judao/Christian teaching. This lead to the confusing mix of theology that we have today within the "Christian" community. This apostacy from the original simple and plain teachings of Christ was accelerated by the persecutions and killings of any who tried to support the "old" ways. Maybe this solves the mystery of the “ungodly” marriage between Mithraism and the cult of Jesus. As it turns out, it was all for political convenience! But, Christians think they are better than that today. In short: The "Christianity" they have today has almost no relationship, in doctrine or in way of life, to the "the original teachings of Jesus."

There are two Jesus' teachings. Jesus the Jew and Jesus the Gentile, which by the way is really Paul's Jesus. And guess which one Christians follow? The ex-pagan Constantine liked Paul's Jesus over Jesus the Jew. Jesus and all the others upon whom this character is predicated are personifications of the sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula revolving around the movements of the sun through the heavens.

Hense, Jesus, the sun of god! Norton, wake your butt up and get into reality. You are spinning your wheels chasing a myth. There is only ONE TRUE CREATOR GOD, and his name ain't Jesus.

I rest my case, Norton.

I am anticipating your Christian response that will attempt to negate what I have presented to you, based on historical fact, as heresy.

Nort

Florissant, MO

#85397 Jul 20, 2013
Here are some New Testament terms and their origins.

As a footnote to all this: The World Book Encyclopedia tells that Mithras was an angel of light who fought on the side against the forces of evil. In the Zoroastrian religion of ancient Persia Mithras was called “the Heavenly Light.” This belief carried to Assyria and Asia Minor where many people identified him with the sun. Mithraism came into the ancient Roman world about 75 BCE., and ranked as a principal competitor of Christianity for 200 years. In addition to a lack of historical support, many characteristics of Jesus, which Christians today believe in, are undeniably similar or identical to religious trends and beliefs that preceded Christianity. There are tens of accounts of pagan gods of many different cultures who were said to have the same attributes as those that Christians claim Jesus had.

Trinity―Trinities were popular in pagan sects before Christianity was introduced to the world. Some of the more well known trinity gods included Mithra-Vohu Mana-Rashnu, Amen-Mut-Khonsu, and Osiris-Isis-Horus.

Virgin Birth―Among the pagan cultures that preceded Christianity, virgin birth stories abounded. The long list of pagan gods born of virgins includes: Romulus and Remus, Zoroaster, Buddha, Mithras, Khrishna, Osiris-Aion, Agdistis, Attis, Tammuz, Adonis, Korybas, Perseus, and Dionysus.

Disciples―In the following 'saviors' cases, a grouping of disciples was present, just as they were present in Jesus' story: Horus, Buddha, Chrishna, Dionysus, Mithra. Interestingly enough, in the case of Dionysus, his disciple Acoetes was a boatman, just as Jesus' disciple Peter. And just as Peter was freed from jail when the doors miraculously flew open, so was Dionysus' disciple Acoetes. In Budda's case, he, like Jesus, demanded that his disciples renounce all worldly possessions. Yet another instance of similarity is that the disciples of both Jesus and Buddha were said to have been arrested for preaching, as well as witnessed to have "walked on water."

Miracles―Among those 'saviors' who, like Jesus, performed countless miracles include: Horus, Khrishna, Buddha, Dionysus, Mithra, Osirus, and Adonis. Horus was said to have walked on water, just as Jesus did. In addition, Horus raised one man, El-Azarus, from the dead in front of countless witnesses. In the case of Buddha, it was told that he fed five hundred men with one loaf of bread, that he cured lepers, and that he caused the blind to see. Dionysus rescued a person from dying when the person was utterly desolate and placed them among the stars. And he gave food and drink, herbs and berries, to the starving people --not to mention turning water into wine.

The Sun―Here is another common theory, quoted from S. Acharya's "The Origins of Christianity and the Quest for the Historical Jesus:" "The reason why all these pagan narratives are so similar to a "god-man" is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
Nort

Florissant, MO

#85398 Jul 20, 2013
Paul was supposedly born and raised in the city of Tarsus, a region in SE Asia-Minor (now called Turkey) where Mithras was well known. Biblical scholars are now saying that Paul, the alleged author of 13 out of the 27 (maybe more) books of the New Testament, may have been influenced in his writings by this strong religion of Mithraism. We can see a profound kinship between Mithraism and Christianity.



In-as-much as Mithraism was so popular in Rome, it is no wonder why the pagan Emperor Constantine, who believed in the sun god, Mithras, designated a certain day of the week to him, Sunday, which means,“the day of the sun.”

For instance, many of the world's crucified "god-men" have their traditional birthday on December 25. This is because the ancients recognized that (from an earth-centric perspective) the sun makes an annual descent southward until December 21 or 22, the winter solstice, when it stops moving southerly for three days and then starts to move northward again.

During this time, the ancients declared that "God's sun" had "died" for three days and was "born again" on December 25. The ancients realized quite abundantly that they needed the sun to return every day and that they would be in big trouble if the sun continued to move southward and did not stop and reverse its direction. Thus, these many different cultures celebrated the "sun of God's" birthday on December 25th. The following are the characteristics of the "sun" of God:

a. The sun "dies" for three days on December 22, the winter solstice, when it stops in its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25, it resumes its movement north.
b. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin."
c. The sun is the "Light of the World."
d. The sun "cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him."
e. The sun rising in the morning is the "Savior of mankind."
f. The sun wears a corona ("crown of thorns") or a halo.
g. The sun "walks on water."
h. The sun's "followers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the Zodiac, through which the sun must pass.
i. The sun is "crucified," which represents it's passing through the equinoxes, the vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.

To conclude, Norton, in light of the tremendous volume of evidence that is there for anyone interested in taking the time to study, the underlying question of whether or not Christianity is simply the heir of mythical beliefs prevalent at the time of its development, is not a question that can simply be ignored by any Christian when pondering the origins of his/her faith.

CHEERS!
Azielda

United States

#85400 Jul 21, 2013
You all are a bunch of idiots. All you do is insult each other every single day. Day in and day out its the same things. You all need to grow up and get a life.
cmalloy24

Branson, MO

#85401 Jul 21, 2013
Azielda wrote:
You all are a bunch of idiots. All you do is insult each other every single day. Day in and day out its the same things. You all need to grow up and get a life.
What do you expect.

This is an old forum that hasn't had any meaning for 3 years and yet a group of 4 or 5 people come on here everyday talking garbage to each other.

They need to just all meet somewhere and beat the crap out of each other and get it over with.
Norton

Olathe, KS

#85402 Jul 21, 2013
Nort wrote:
Paul was supposedly born and raised in the city of Tarsus, a region in SE Asia-Minor (now called Turkey) where Mithras was well known. Biblical scholars are now saying that Paul, the alleged author of 13 out of the 27 (maybe more) books of the New Testament, may have been influenced in his writings by this strong religion of Mithraism. We can see a profound kinship between Mithraism and Christianity.
In-as-much as Mithraism was so popular in Rome, it is no wonder why the pagan Emperor Constantine, who believed in the sun god, Mithras, designated a certain day of the week to him, Sunday, which means,“the day of the sun.”
For instance, many of the world's crucified "god-men" have their traditional birthday on December 25. This is because the ancients recognized that (from an earth-centric perspective) the sun makes an annual descent southward until December 21 or 22, the winter solstice, when it stops moving southerly for three days and then starts to move northward again.
During this time, the ancients declared that "God's sun" had "died" for three days and was "born again" on December 25. The ancients realized quite abundantly that they needed the sun to return every day and that they would be in big trouble if the sun continued to move southward and did not stop and reverse its direction. Thus, these many different cultures celebrated the "sun of God's" birthday on December 25th. The following are the characteristics of the "sun" of God:
a. The sun "dies" for three days on December 22, the winter solstice, when it stops in its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25, it resumes its movement north.
b. In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the sun would therefore be "born of a Virgin."
c. The sun is the "Light of the World."
d. The sun "cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him."
e. The sun rising in the morning is the "Savior of mankind."
f. The sun wears a corona ("crown of thorns") or a halo.
g. The sun "walks on water."
h. The sun's "followers" or "disciples" are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the Zodiac, through which the sun must pass.
i. The sun is "crucified," which represents it's passing through the equinoxes, the vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
To conclude, Norton, in light of the tremendous volume of evidence that is there for anyone interested in taking the time to study, the underlying question of whether or not Christianity is simply the heir of mythical beliefs prevalent at the time of its development, is not a question that can simply be ignored by any Christian when pondering the origins of his/her faith.
CHEERS!
You copy and paste all this STUFF!! The Bible speaks of false teachers and false prophecy. I choose to believe the Bible to be true and there is much proof that it is true. I can't make you or anybody else believe it. I know Jesus was not born on Dec. 25. It is just the day we celebrate the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. People worship many gods but there is only one true God! Time is short and the clock is ticking! Better think about it!

You say all this stuff against the Bible but I'm guessing you have never really studied it!

CHEERS!

“KC's Son got a Meal Ticket!”

Since: Sep 09

Now the basement is clean!

#85403 Jul 21, 2013
Azielda wrote:
You all are a bunch of idiots. All you do is insult each other every single day. Day in and day out its the same things. You all need to grow up and get a life.
And the reason YOU take time out of your life to come here every day is ...?

“KC's Son got a Meal Ticket!”

Since: Sep 09

Now the basement is clean!

#85404 Jul 21, 2013
cmalloy24 wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you expect.
This is an old forum that hasn't had any meaning for 3 years and yet a group of 4 or 5 people come on here everyday talking garbage to each other.
They need to just all meet somewhere and beat the crap out of each other and get it over with.
Now comes a person who believes more in solving problems with violence than with reasonable discussions. There are so many like him in this world.

“KC's Son got a Meal Ticket!”

Since: Sep 09

Now the basement is clean!

#85405 Jul 21, 2013
Norton wrote:
<quoted text>
You copy and paste all this STUFF!! The Bible speaks of false teachers and false prophecy. I choose to believe the Bible to be true and there is much proof that it is true. I can't make you or anybody else believe it. I know Jesus was not born on Dec. 25. It is just the day we celebrate the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. People worship many gods but there is only one true God! Time is short and the clock is ticking! Better think about it!
You say all this stuff against the Bible but I'm guessing you have never really studied it!...
"You say all this stuff against the Bible but I'm guessing you have never really studied it!"

Ah, hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Obama Bin Lyin

Branson, MO

#85406 Jul 21, 2013
Obama: Illegal Immigrants Overrunning America Should Be A “Source Of Pride”…
~ Oh yes, we're all so proud to have you here in America! You have done so much to bridge the racial divide!
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/07/21/obama-ille...

Portland Moonbats Set Tree Hugging Record…
~ Same people who support killing babies in the womb.
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/07/20/portland-m...

Dem Rep. James Clyburn Wears A Hoodie During Speech At Trayvon Martin Rally…
~ Isn't he afraid that a racist cracker will shoot him? We all know that all crackers are full of hate and are racists, don't we? If they don't get their way they go out and burn and destroy and pull black folks out of their vehicles and beat them.
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/07/20/dem-rep-ja...

Dem Rep. Frederica Wilson At Trayvon Rally: Black Men Are Arrested For “Eating While Black, And Just Being Plain Ol’ Black!”…
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/07/20/dem-rep-fr...

THE REAL CIVIL RIGHTS VIOLATIONS
~ You really know that you're on the right side of an issue when Iran takes your site!
http://patriotupdate.com/articles/the-real-ci...

BLACK CONSERVATIVE DENEEN BORELLI BLACKLISTED FROM NAACP CONVENTION
~ The NAACP don't want to become extinct, the're just protecting their jobs. If there were no racial divide what would "Race Baiters" jessee jackson and al sharpton do?
Read more: http://patriotupdate.com/videos/black-conserv...

IT WAS ABOUT YOUR GUNS AMERICA
http://patriotupdate.com/articles/it-was-abou...

A Nation Founded by Statesman being run by Shady Politicians Today
http://patriotupdate.com/articles/a-nation-fo...

OBAMA TO SIGN UN GUN TREATY DURING SUMMER RECESS
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/06/03...

Jesse Jackson Begged U.N. To Intervene In Zimmerman Aftermath
http://www.westernjournalism.com/jesse-jackso...
grave digger

Kirbyville, MO

#85407 Jul 21, 2013
cant take all the guns away,,,or maybe they can,,,but then they would have to take away rubber bands and paper clips,,,cuz thats all a person needs to shoot something,,,and for you street black folks,,,thats called a home made gat,,,or use what your african reletives used,,,blow guns made out of hollow tree sticks and home made darts,,,and for you black street folk,,,,thats called a blow gat,,,ha haa haaa,,,
OWNEDsville FEMA Trash

Saint Louis, MO

#85408 Jul 21, 2013
Pleaze wrote:
OWNEDSville, must you always protest when you can't be a bully and control what other people do and how they do it on topix. Why do you fuss like a toddler when posters use different screen names. You no like. Attach your lips to my butt cheeks. Nothing you say makes any difference here because you are always whining and bitching about other people who you don't even know, as if we all have to accommodate your anal tendencies somehow.
You are infantile and elementary.
excellent post

GAME POINT
Nortondamus

Saint Louis, MO

#85409 Jul 21, 2013
Norton wrote:
<quoted text>
You copy and paste all this STUFF!! The Bible speaks of false teachers and false prophecy. I choose to believe the Bible to be true and there is much proof that it is true. I can't make you or anybody else believe it. I know Jesus was not born on Dec. 25. It is just the day we celebrate the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. People worship many gods but there is only one true God! Time is short and the clock is ticking! Better think about it!
You say all this stuff against the Bible

but I'm guessing you have never really studied it!
CHEERS!
Then Norton that makes the two of you!
Considering The Facts

Florissant, MO

#85410 Jul 21, 2013
Norton wrote:
<quoted text>
You copy and paste all this STUFF!! The Bible speaks of false teachers and false prophecy. I choose to believe the Bible to be true and there is much proof that it is true. I can't make you or anybody else believe it. I know Jesus was not born on Dec. 25. It is just the day we celebrate the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. People worship many gods but there is only one true God! Time is short and the clock is ticking! Better think about it!
You say all this stuff against the Bible but I'm guessing you have never really studied it!
CHEERS!
A typical Christian response I presented facts about religions centuries older than Christianity to point out where your belief system originated. I can choose to believe that a telephone pole is god, but that does not make it so. So continue to worship your idols, Mithra boy. All these facts that I ssid are well documented. You just can't wrap your brain around the truth. But I expected you to deny facts that can be proved and instead, cling to your myths. So keep on believing what you want. But stop trying to convert others to practice your idolatry.
Considering The Facts

Florissant, MO

#85411 Jul 21, 2013
Yellow Dawg Democrat wrote:
<quoted text>
"You say all this stuff against the Bible but I'm guessing you have never really studied it!"
Ah, hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
That is funny for Norton to say that, cuz I WAS a Christian for 40 years and probably know more about the Bible that he does.
YELLOW DAWG the QUEEN

United States

#85412 Jul 21, 2013
cmalloy24 wrote:
<quoted text>What do you expect.

This is an old forum that hasn't had any meaning for 3 years and yet a group of 4 or 5 people come on here everyday talking garbage to each other.

They need to just all meet somewhere and beat the crap out of each other and get it over with.
There are a few problems with that. The main one being Liberals are to big of cowards to ever deal with an issue face to face.

There is also so smaller issues. Take Dawgs retard son from Shit Louis. He is retarded and has the mind of an 8 year old. Even if he is 30, or whatever he is, you cant beat up a retard. He can't help what he says. He's just a victim of his dads bad choices in the 60's. To much LSD has led to many retarded children being born to scumbag hippy 60's rejects.

Then there is the now incognito DanFromSmithville. He is an admitted pedophile. You wouldn't want to risk making him bleed and getting anything he is infected with on you. It's not worth it. Plus he might just be a little on the retarded side as well.

Now, with Queen Dawg, he claims to be 80. No matter how big of an idiot he is you just can't beat up an old fart like that. His bones are old and frail. He would probably bleed like a stuck pig. So there is no point to it. Besides he gets his ass kicked every day on here. He is just a court jester that exists only for us to laugh at him.
OWNEDsville FEMA Trash

Saint Louis, MO

#85413 Jul 21, 2013
YELLOW DAWG the QUEEN wrote:
<quoted text>
There are a few problems with that. The main one being Liberals are to big of cowards to ever deal with an issue face to face.
There is also so smaller issues. Take Dawgs retard son from Shit Louis. He is retarded and has the mind of an 8 year old. Even if he is 30, or whatever he is, you cant beat up a retard. He can't help what he says. He's just a victim of his dads bad choices in the 60's. To much LSD has led to many retarded children being born to scumbag hippy 60's rejects.
Then there is the now incognito DanFromSmithville. He is an admitted pedophile. You wouldn't want to risk making him bleed and getting anything he is infected with on you. It's not worth it. Plus he might just be a little on the retarded side as well.
Now, with Queen Dawg, he claims to be 80. No matter how big of an idiot he is you just can't beat up an old fart like that. His bones are old and frail. He would probably bleed like a stuck pig. So there is no point to it. Besides he gets his ass kicked every day on here. He is just a court jester that exists only for us to laugh at him.
There are times I wonder if you might just be the stupidest person on the planet.

Then I read posts like the one above and it confirms that you are.
Considering The Facts

Florissant, MO

#85414 Jul 21, 2013
Norton wrote:
<quoted text>
You copy and paste all this STUFF!! The Bible speaks of false teachers and false prophecy. I choose to believe the Bible to be true and there is much proof that it is true. I can't make you or anybody else believe it. I know Jesus was not born on Dec. 25. It is just the day we celebrate the birth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. People worship many gods but there is only one true God! Time is short and the clock is ticking! Better think about it!
You say all this stuff against the Bible but I'm guessing you have never really studied it!
CHEERS!
By all means, since you fired your mouth off and said "I choose to believe the Bible to be true and there is much proof that it is true." produce this much proof that you say exits to prove the New Testament is true.

You can't prove anything, because no such proof exists.

The key words in your statement are "I CHOOSE TO BELIEVE the Bible to be true." Faith is believing in something that cannot be proven. Faith and truth are polar opposites.

CHEERS! Norton
Pleaze

Florissant, MO

#85415 Jul 21, 2013
That is weird babbling coming from a glue sniffer and can huffer like yourself.
YELLOW DAWG the QUEEN wrote:
<quoted text>
There are a few problems with that. The main one being Liberals are to big of cowards to ever deal with an issue face to face.
There is also so smaller issues. Take Dawgs retard son from Shit Louis. He is retarded and has the mind of an 8 year old. Even if he is 30, or whatever he is, you cant beat up a retard. He can't help what he says. He's just a victim of his dads bad choices in the 60's. To much LSD has led to many retarded children being born to scumbag hippy 60's rejects.
Then there is the now incognito DanFromSmithville. He is an admitted pedophile. You wouldn't want to risk making him bleed and getting anything he is infected with on you. It's not worth it. Plus he might just be a little on the retarded side as well.
Now, with Queen Dawg, he claims to be 80. No matter how big of an idiot he is you just can't beat up an old fart like that. His bones are old and frail. He would probably bleed like a stuck pig. So there is no point to it. Besides he gets his ass kicked every day on here. He is just a court jester that exists only for us to laugh at him.
Norton

Olathe, KS

#85416 Jul 21, 2013
Considering The Facts wrote:
<quoted text>
A typical Christian response I presented facts about religions centuries older than Christianity to point out where your belief system originated. I can choose to believe that a telephone pole is god, but that does not make it so. So continue to worship your idols, Mithra boy. All these facts that I ssid are well documented. You just can't wrap your brain around the truth. But I expected you to deny facts that can be proved and instead, cling to your myths. So keep on believing what you want. But stop trying to convert others to practice your idolatry.
You wouldn't know facts if they hit you in the face. You just look up stuff on the internet, copy and paste it and believe it. Funny you believe all that crap but you refuse to believe the Bible. Your choice.........Heaven or Hell! I can't convert anybody but I can tell people the truth. Then it is up to them!

CHEERS!

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