Gun Grabber Commies

Ozark, MO

#76405 Feb 12, 2013
AP FACT CHECK: OBAMA OVERREACHES IN STATE OF THE UNION SPEECH

President Barack Obama did some cherry-picking Tuesday night in defense of his record on jobs and laid out a conditional path to citizenship for illegal immigrants that may be less onerous than he made it sound.

A look at some of the claims in his State of the Union speech, a glance at the Republican counterargument and how they fit with the facts:

OBAMA:“After years of grueling recession, our businesses have created over 6 million new jobs.”

THE FACTS: That’s in the ballpark, as far as it goes. But Obama starts his count not when he took office, but from the point in his first term when job losses were the highest. In doing so, he ignores the 5 million or so jobs that were lost on his watch, up to that point.

Private sector jobs have grown by 6.1 million since February 2010. But since he became president, the gain is a more modest 1.9 million.

And when losses in public sector employment are added to the mix, his overall jobs record is close to a wash. And when losses in public sector employment are added to the mix, his overall jobs record is a gain of 1.2 million.



OBAMA:“We have doubled the distance our cars will go on a gallon of gas.”

THE FACTS: Not so fast.

That’s expected to happen in 12 more years.

Under a deal the Obama administration reached with automakers in 2011, vehicles will have a corporate average fuel economy of 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025, twice the 27 miles per gallon, on average, that cars and trucks get today. Automobile manufacturers won’t start making changes to achieve the new fuel economy standards until model year 2017. Not all cars will double their gas mileage, since the standard is based on an average of a manufacturers’ fleet.



OBAMA:“Real reform means establishing a responsible pathway to earned citizenship – a path that includes passing a background check, paying taxes and a meaningful penalty, learning English and going to the back of the line behind the folks trying to come here legally.”

THE FACTS: The seemingly stern admonition that illegal immigrants must go to the back of the line, often heard from the president, doesn’t appear to have much practical effect except in the most obvious sense. Everyone who joins a line, whether for a movie, a coffee or citizenship, starts at the back of that particular line. It’s not clear he is saying anything more than that illegal immigrants won’t get to cut in line for citizenship once they’ve obtained provisional legal status.

Like those living abroad who have applied to come to the U.S. legally, illegal immigrants who qualify for Obama’s proposed path to citizenship will surely face long waits to be processed. But during that time, they are already in the U.S. and will get to stay, work and travel in the country under their new status as provisional immigrants, while those outside the U.S. simply have to wait.

Sending illegal immigrants to the “back of the line” is something of a distinction without a difference for some legal immigrants who dutifully followed all the rules before coming to the United States.

For instance, some legal immigrants who are in the U.S. on an employer-sponsored visa can’t easily change jobs, or in some cases take a promotion, without jeopardizing their place in line to get a green card. In other cases, would-be legal immigrants in other countries wait for years to be able to settle in the U.S.

Obama is using “back of the line” somewhat figuratively, because there are multiple lines depending on the applicant’s relationship with family already in the U.S. or with an employer. Generally, a foreign-born spouse of a U.S. citizen or someone with needed skills and a job offer will be accepted more quickly than many others.

MORE:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/12/ap...
Norton

Kansas City, MO

#76406 Feb 12, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>This attack on my spelling is the best you have. I understand. It is very common for you.
That you have been scrutinized as a subject of a lot of research on aberrant behavior, I do not doubt, but you ignorance may not yet have reached the point of being scientific fact.
I can state with a great deal of confidence that you don't have the least understanding of what evolution is and what the facts of evolution means for society.
By all means, don't let me stop you from celibrating your vast stupidity as I am certain that you will.
Huh? Have you ever seen a human evolve? Just wondering! I am not talking about the freak things either.
If you want to believe in evolution........go ahead. Who cares!
FYI.....Kinds do not evolve into other kinds! Comprehendo?
CHEERS!

“Triple — Negative”

Since: Oct 12

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#76407 Feb 13, 2013
no one cares hahahahahaha wrote:
<quoted text>
How very Norton-esque...LOL!!!!!
Of course the idiots who use multiple names are not near as pathetic as those who 'vote' for themselves—especially when they use the limited amount of three allowed by Topix.

I get the feeling that you're having great difficulty finding anyone with whom to converse who has the ability to conjugate verbs without wetting themselves—now wipe off the keyboard before your Daddy needs his laptop.

“Triple — Negative”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#76408 Feb 13, 2013
I always find it amusing when people use the term 'half wit' as if it were two words. It's akin to calling Jefferey Dahmer an 'unkempt diner'.

You're a halfwit.

“Triple — Negative”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#76409 Feb 13, 2013
Norton wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh? Have you ever seen a human evolve? Just wondering! I am not talking about the freak things either.
If you want to believe in evolution........go ahead. Who cares!
FYI.....Kinds do not evolve into other kinds! Comprehendo?
CHEERS!
Evolution is as certain as corrupt politicians and egomaniacal Hollywoodians. All that you need do is delve into the past century of evolution of human beings with regard to teeth. Wisdom teeth were once a certainty, and eventually became about 85%. Now there are fewer and fewer cases. It's a matter of eating less meat, for which those teeth are required. We could examine the appendix, as well.

This does not mean that humans evolved from apes—which is almost certainly nonsense. Yet everything evolves—just not from apes to human-beings. They're missing the requisite 'link'. So far, there are none.

Mice share 91% of human DNA, and apes 95%—why do they not say we evolved from mice? Because we hardly resemble. It's nonsense, and the reason why they have yet to find the so-called missing link—because it does not exist.

Evolution has been bastardized as a term. It means to 'evolve'. Humans evolve. That's why humans have less hair that earlier humans, and now, fewer teeth. That's evolution.
hahahahahahahaha haha

Saint Charles, MO

#76410 Feb 13, 2013
TripleNegative wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course the idiots who use multiple names are not near as pathetic as those who 'vote' for themselves—especially when they use the limited amount of three allowed by Topix.
I get the feeling that you're having great difficulty finding anyone with whom to converse who has the ability to conjugate verbs without wetting themselves—now wipe off the keyboard before your Daddy needs his laptop.
hahahahahahahahaha..your up in the middle of the night
speaking of "Pathetic"...your post here certainly-c*ms-to-mind!
Not up to you usualy standards...having a bad night...certainly!
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Marco Rubio hahahahahaha

Saint Charles, MO

#76411 Feb 13, 2013
Norton wrote:
<quoted text>
Huh? Have you ever seen a human evolve? Just wondering! I am not talking about the freak things either.
If you want to believe in evolution........go ahead. Who cares!
FYI.....Kinds do not evolve into other kinds! Comprehendo?
CHEERS!
Norton ...you're proof Evolution can go in reverse!
COMPREHENDO

“Triple — Negative”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#76412 Feb 13, 2013
hahahahahahahahahaha wrote:
<quoted text>
hahahahahahahahaha..your up in the middle of the night
speaking of "Pathetic"...your post here certainly-c*ms-to-mind!
Not up to you usualy standards...having a bad night...certainly!
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Your post has more fake 'hahahahahahaha's' than a Benny Hill skit, and absolutely no hooters. That would make you intimately acquainted with the premise of 'pathetic'.

Keep wanking. I suspect you're bound to come eventually—even if there's no one around to share your minuscule victory. Got tweezers?

“Triple — Negative”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#76413 Feb 13, 2013
Marco Rubio hahahahahaha wrote:
<quoted text>
Norton ...you're proof Evolution can go in reverse!
COMPREHENDO
It's just like a flaming liberal to screw up a premise before breakfast.

That's called 'devolution', you moron.

Devolution: or backward evolution is the notion that a species can change into a more "primitive" form over time.

You should be rather familiar with this process—if you have access to a mirror and a dictionary.

“Triple — Negative”

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#76414 Feb 13, 2013
And it's 'comprendo'. It appears to me that you're officially illiterate in two languages.

Congratulations, you dullard! Care to try for three?

“Nobama care”

Since: Mar 11

just a tax hike

#76418 Feb 13, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>You really have to come to grips with the idea that only unrealistic ultra conservative fundamentalist Christians are not the only ones that can be patriotic Americans. A patriot can come from anywhere and patriotism doesn't have to involve large, gaudy, sensationalist declarations in front of an audience. I think you do yourself a disservice by trying to force other people on here into rigid categories when they don't apply. Dawg served in the military. He served this country. By your own reckoning, his service has served you as well as the rest of this country. Like it or not, we are all Americans. If I called you anti-American, would it be true? No. So how do you know others are?
What would you call a 20 year old man that had easy access to firearms because his family had them. They were exercising their 2nd Amendment rights. The family may have been liberal in their political views, but probably not. Is he a true American patriot because his family owned the guns that he used to slaughter tiny, defenseless, children? I don't want to lose the 2nd Amendment, but I don't want idiots like that man to have easy access to guns either. Seems to me, that you are far violently, mentally ill people having easy access to firearms. I don't really think that is true, but just some thoughts on how gun movement comes across.
YAWN Rollover yawn again , uh did you say something ?
Gun Grabber Commies

Ozark, MO

#76419 Feb 13, 2013
TripleNegative wrote:
<quoted text>
Evolution is as certain as corrupt politicians and egomaniacal Hollywoodians. All that you need do is delve into the past century of evolution of human beings with regard to teeth. Wisdom teeth were once a certainty, and eventually became about 85%. Now there are fewer and fewer cases. It's a matter of eating less meat, for which those teeth are required. We could examine the appendix, as well.
This does not mean that humans evolved from apes—which is almost certainly nonsense. Yet everything evolves—just not from apes to human-beings. They're missing the requisite 'link'. So far, there are none.
Mice share 91% of human DNA, and apes 95%—why do they not say we evolved from mice? Because we hardly resemble. It's nonsense, and the reason why they have yet to find the so-called missing link—because it does not exist.
Evolution has been bastardized as a term. It means to 'evolve'. Humans evolve. That's why humans have less hair that earlier humans, and now, fewer teeth. That's evolution.
PROOF - GOD made a liberal!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/EUzMPlQb2G4

“Nobama care”

Since: Mar 11

just a tax hike

#76421 Feb 13, 2013
DanFromSmithville wrote:
<quoted text>You really have to come to grips with the idea that only unrealistic ultra conservative fundamentalist Christians are not the only ones that can be patriotic Americans. A patriot can come from anywhere and patriotism doesn't have to involve large, gaudy, sensationalist declarations in front of an audience. I think you do yourself a disservice by trying to force other people on here into rigid categories when they don't apply. Dawg served in the military. He served this country. By your own reckoning, his service has served you as well as the rest of this country. Like it or not, we are all Americans. If I called you anti-American, would it be true? No. So how do you know others are?
What would you call a 20 year old man that had easy access to firearms because his family had them. They were exercising their 2nd Amendment rights. The family may have been liberal in their political views, but probably not. Is he a true American patriot because his family owned the guns that he used to slaughter tiny, defenseless, children? I don't want to lose the 2nd Amendment, but I don't want idiots like that man to have easy access to guns either. Seems to me, that you are far violently, mentally ill people having easy access to firearms. I don't really think that is true, but just some thoughts on how gun movement comes across.
Ok here we go with the same old broken record . Truthful facts , But stil are getting old .

Guns are a huge part of America . FACT

No you do not have to be a Consevative to be a real American . Believe it or not i have alot of Democrat friends who are True Americans .

When this country was started it was mainly because people DID not like the way things were going where they lived . I SUGGEST THAT People who are not happy with the way that things are going here do the SAME .

Guns Do not KILL people . PEOPLE Kill PEOPLE . Fact

I could REALLY go into a huge Talk about guns and parents using the Sandy hook tragedy as a talking point but i think that enough has been said about that (God bless those poor people there )

Being a citizen of this Great Nation Comes with a Commitment To obey support and protects its laws beliefs and values .

Hitler took guns away from its people , i dont have to waste time to tell anybody what happened there .

I have posted before what i feel about gun banning . In short NOT everybody needs a 30 round Clip . Going Deer hunting with an AR 15 is in my opinion DUMB , But thats just my opinion. With That being said We as a Nation DO NOT need access to such things banned from us either.

Bad guys will always get guns Law abiding people will always pay the price for any new gun laws . If you would really take a GOOD look at the gun laws that we have on the books now . You would really wonder why they are not enforced to there full letter , Because if used they would WORK . But when a criminal gets busted and breaks a gun law what happens ? For one if He or She is Black they hollar and CRY That there being treated unjust or being picked on because there Black . Same thing if there Illegal , If there Illegal You cant touch them because of all the new regulations about that , Well you can but it won't work and the law knows it , So why bother. And if your a rich Kid and you break a Gun law DADDY AND MOMMY Get some F Lee Bailey Type and spend Thousands to Clear your name therefore teaching the child NOTHING ! And Thats what the goverment needs to TARGET . And NOT BAN things from law abiding people .

“On Nov. 4 -- NO Tea Party”

Since: Sep 09

Say "NO" to TeaPub Elephants!

#76422 Feb 13, 2013
Norton wrote:
<quoted text>
Never heard of "evolutoin"!:)
I DO NOT BELIEVE IN EVOLUTION!(AND THAT IS A SCIENTIFIC FACT)...
Scientific fact? No, not really. To calculate the standard deviation of a sample, one must divide by "n - 1" ("n" is the number of subjects in the sampled population). Since you are the only subject in the sample, therefore n-1=0, and division by zero is not allowed in mathematics. Thus the standard deviation of your single-subject sample approaches infinity, and thus you cannot prove your assertion.

“On Nov. 4 -- NO Tea Party”

Since: Sep 09

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#76423 Feb 13, 2013
Harvey wrote:
<quoted text>
Got to love those ad hominem attacks that you make while you cry about others doing it to you....
<.snicker!.> I didn't really think that you would notice that! However, you undoubtedly know that "What goes around comes around."

“On Nov. 4 -- NO Tea Party”

Since: Sep 09

Say "NO" to TeaPub Elephants!

#76424 Feb 13, 2013
Harvey wrote:
<quoted text>
If I was I know I could get an endless supply of stupidisms just from reading your posts. In fact I could probably write 3 or 4 books given how much stupidity you post.
I am rather verbose.(Incidentally, there is no such thing as a "stupidism," unless you are applying the term to the sayings of Sarah Palin, in which case the term is quite appropriate.)

“On Nov. 4 -- NO Tea Party”

Since: Sep 09

Say "NO" to TeaPub Elephants!

#76425 Feb 13, 2013
Gun Grabber Commies wrote:
<quoted text>
PROOF - GOD made a liberal!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/EUzMPlQb2G4
God apparently also made Neo-CONs who have nothing better to do than produce silly videos like this one.

God made both liberals and conservatives, but He gave us liberals more ability to think logically. Don't fret! It's genetic!

“On Nov. 4 -- NO Tea Party”

Since: Sep 09

Say "NO" to TeaPub Elephants!

#76426 Feb 13, 2013
The real USA First wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok here we go with the same old broken record . Truthful facts , But stil are getting old .
...
Hitler took guns away from its people , i dont have to waste time to tell anybody what happened there ...
So why repeat the same old broken record?

You are just proving Godwin's law.

“Kenyan-born Obama=Antichrist”

Since: Sep 09

Casper, WY

#76428 Feb 13, 2013
Gun Grabber Commies wrote:
Investigator: Obama’s DHS Cyber Army Targets Anti-Obama Sites
http://www.westernjournalism.com/investigator...
The Illuminati/Freemasons, Skull&Bones are the Inner Party of Orwell's '1984' and they are monitoring every cellphone call and all e-mails. They are covering for Kenyan-born Obama who i9s their Big Bother/antichrist.
I HATE BIG BROTHER.
Gun Grabber Commies

Ozark, MO

#76430 Feb 13, 2013
MUST WATCH: ICE UNION LEADER REVEALS SHOCKING DETAILS ABOUT IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IN TESTIMONY BEFORE CONGRESS
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/13/ic...

‘It Goes Back to the Bin Laden Attack’: Expert Who Said New Benghazi Info Will Leave You ‘Amazed and Shocked’
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/13/it...

CNN PANEL CLASHES AFTER CONTRIBUTOR SUGGESTS ALLEGED LAPD COP KILLER CAN TEACH US A LOT ABOUT ‘INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM’
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/13/cn...
~ I can tell you where the Racism is, it is with the Liberals. Top racists are President Oboma, JesseeAssJackson, All not to Sharpton, etc. etc.

CNN PANELIST’S SHOCK CLAIM: DORNER’S RAMPAGE ‘ALMOST LIKE WATCHING DJANGO UNCHAINED IN REAL LIFE; IT’S KIND OF EXCITING’
~ Typical Liberal Mind! All Crazy! You don't hear the liberals screaming about gun control with this case! Dorner was a LIBERAL!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/13/co...

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