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Gene

Caruthersville, MO

#129 Jul 3, 2013
1. Economic and social differences between the North and the South.

With Eli Whitney's invention of the cotton gin in 1793, cotton became very profitable. This machine was able to reduce the time it took to separate seeds from the cotton. However, at the same time the increase in the number of plantations willing to move from other crops to cotton meant the greater need for a large amount of cheap labor, i.e. slaves. Thus, the southern economy became a one crop economy, depending on cotton and therefore on slavery. On the other hand, the northern economy was based more on industry than agriculture. In fact, the northern industries were purchasing the raw cotton and turning it into finished goods. This disparity between the two set up a major difference in economic attitudes. The South was based on the plantation system while the North was focused on city life. This change in the North meant that society evolved as people of different cultures and classes had to work together. On the other hand, the South continued to hold onto an antiquated social order.

2. States versus federal rights.

Since the time of the Revolution, two camps emerged: those arguing for greater states rights and those arguing that the federal government needed to have more control. The first organized government in the US after the American Revolution was under the Articles of Confederation. The thirteen states formed a loose confederation with a very weak federal government. However, when problems arose, the weaknesses of the Articles caused the leaders of the time to come together at the Constitutional Convention and create, in secret, the US Constitution. Strong proponents of states rights like Thomas Jefferson and Patrick Henry were not present at this meeting. Many felt that the new constitution ignored the rights of states to continue to act independently. They felt that the states should still have the right to decide if they were willing to accept certain federal acts. This resulted in the idea of nullification, whereby the states would have the right to rule federal acts unconstitutional. The federal government denied states this right. However, proponents such as John C. Calhoun fought vehemently for nullification. When nullification would not work and states felt that they were no longer respected, they moved towards secession.

3. The fight between Slave and Non-Slave State Proponents.

As America began to expand, first with the lands gained from the Louisiana Purchase and later with the Mexican War, the question of whether new states admitted to the union would be slave or free. The Missouri Compromise passed in 1820 made a rule that prohibited slavery in states from the former Louisiana Purchase the latitude 36 degrees 30 minutes north except in Missouri. During the Mexican War, conflict started about what would happen with the new territories that the US expected to gain upon victory. David Wilmot proposed the Wilmot Proviso in 1846 which would ban slavery in the new lands. However, this was shot down to much debate. The Compromise of 1850 was created by Henry Clay and others to deal with the balance between slave and free states, northern and southern interests. One of the provisions was the fugitive slave act. Another issue that further increased tensions was the Kansas-Nebraska Act of 1854. It created two new territories that would allow the states to use popular sovereignty to determine whether they would be free or slave. The real issue occurred in Kansas where pro-slavery Missourians began to pour into the state to help force it to be slave. They were called "Border Ruffians." Problems came to a head in violence at Lawrence, Kansas. The fighting that occurred caused it to be called "Bleeding Kansas." The fight even erupted on the floor of the senate when anti-slavery proponent Charles Sumner was beat over the head by South Carolina's Senator Preston Brooks.
Gene

Caruthersville, MO

#130 Jul 3, 2013
4. Growth of the Abolition Movement.

Increasingly, the northerners became more polarized against slavery. Sympathies began to grow for abolitionists and against slavery and slaveholders. This occurred especially after some major events including: the publishing of Harriet Beecher Stowe's Uncle Tom's Cabin, the Dred Scott Case, John Brown's Raid, and the passage of the fugitive slave act that held individuals responsible for harboring fugitive slaves even if they were located in non-slave states.

5. The election of Abraham Lincoln.

Even though things were already coming to a head, when Lincoln was elected in 1860, South Carolina issued its "Declaration of the Causes of Secession." They believed that Lincoln was anti-slavery and in favor of Northern interests. Before Lincoln was even president, seven states had seceded from the Union: South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and Texas.
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

Rolla, MO

#131 Jul 3, 2013
George Wallace wrote:
<quoted text>Way too many too remember you say,surely you can remember one.That BS about clouding the issue and putting you on the defense is as good a cop out as any.The question was only stupid to you because you have no answer to the question.Im still waiting for you to tell one instance of racial slurs by the so called right wing media.If they were very ugly racial slurs as you say you will remember.
George Wallace,

I posted a bunch of RACIAL SLURS ON THIS SAME THREAD LAST WEEK!!!

If you will refer back to page #2 on this same thread, you will find some very blatant RACIAL SLURS spewed out by both Glen Beck & Rush Limbaugh on posts # 31 & 32!!!

Oh, by the way - you have chosen the perfect moniker - because George Wallace was one of the most FAMOUS RACISTS in the history of our country...
Jerry

East Stroudsburg, PA

#132 Jul 3, 2013
1961 Alumni Rolla MO wrote:
<quoted text>
George Wallace,
I posted a bunch of RACIAL SLURS ON THIS SAME THREAD LAST WEEK!!!
If you will refer back to page #2 on this same thread, you will find some very blatant RACIAL SLURS spewed out by both Glen Beck & Rush Limbaugh on posts # 31 & 32!!!
Oh, by the way - you have chosen the perfect moniker - because George Wallace was one of the most FAMOUS RACISTS in the history of our country...
Alumni WHY is It Raciest when any white old guy says anything Derogatory about ANY Black!! BUT when A BLACK does it to ANY other Race on the Planet its NOT Raciest?? Double Standards????What about when the Rapper Lil Wayne Stomped on the American Flag?? Nobody raised an eyebrow! They called it art or Freedom of Speech ( I call it un American and BULLSH*T), But Rush Limbaugh or Hannity or any other old white guy makes A Slanderous remark Closely hitting race You and every other black are ready to roast them!! Your Double Standards are Blinding you! Im sick of it! Boo Hoo Get over it!! Were ALWAYS going to have it and you want to know why?? Because the BLACKS cant Let it go!! they dont want to let the N word or Race go!! They want to keep it and Use it to their advantage its called Affirmative ACTION in your books !!!!!!!
jonas

Saint Louis, MO

#133 Jul 4, 2013
If your white and never want it to come,back on you apparently never say the n word. Next thing you know in order to get a job you'll need to take a lie detector test and that will be one of the questions.
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

Rolla, MO

#134 Jul 4, 2013
Jerry wrote:
<quoted text>Alumni WHY is It Raciest when any white old guy says anything Derogatory about ANY Black!! BUT when A BLACK does it to ANY other Race on the Planet its NOT Raciest?? Double Standards????What about when the Rapper Lil Wayne Stomped on the American Flag?? Nobody raised an eyebrow! They called it art or Freedom of Speech ( I call it un American and BULLSH*T), But Rush Limbaugh or Hannity or any other old white guy makes A Slanderous remark Closely hitting race You and every other black are ready to roast them!! Your Double Standards are Blinding you! Im sick of it! Boo Hoo Get over it!! Were ALWAYS going to have it and you want to know why?? Because the BLACKS cant Let it go!! they dont want to let the N word or Race go!! They want to keep it and Use it to their advantage its called Affirmative ACTION in your books !!!!!!!
Jerry,
You're ENTIRELY missing my point on this thread! I am dumbfounded that Paula Dean is taking such a beating from so many in this country for something she ALLEGEDLY said years ago!

My point was/is - why are they crucifying Paul Dean for ALLEGEDLY making racial statments (which were not even on the air or recorded)- when Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck Sean Hannity & Fox News regulary makes racial slurs aimed at President Obama (almost on a daily basis)

Do you not see something amiss here???

First of all, whether Paula Dean actually made racial slurs has YET TO BE DETERMINED. After all, this boils down to Paul Dean & her brother Bubba's word against an ex-employee who for almost a year has been trying to collect 12 million dollars to keep her mouths shut about Paula & her brother's ALLEGED racial slurs & actions.

Paula Dean & her brother refused to pay the ex-employee one dime - so the ex-employee filed suit against Paul & her brother - WHILE DESTROYING THEIR CAREERS & REPUTATION IN THE PROCESS.

Why is it Paula Dean & her brother can be sued & ruined financially - when NO ACTION IS TAKEN AGAINST LIMBAUGH, BECK, HANNITY & FOX for saying much worse things about President Obama???
oldwoman

Steele, MO

#135 Jul 5, 2013
1961 Alumni Rolla MO wrote:
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Jerry,
my point on this thread! I am dumbfounded.
You should have just left it at that.
guest

Irving, TX

#136 Jul 5, 2013
guest wrote:
Back in the 60's when Paula D says she uttered the N word, it was common practice. Even now when blacks are mad at each other, they call each other the N word. We have all learned and know that it is not acceptable now but back then it was acceptable. What about blacks calling whites "Honkies" or "Crackers"? Who gets in trouble for that?
Now you know why our country is falling apart.
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

Rolla, MO

#137 Jul 5, 2013
oldwoman wrote:
<quoted text>
You should have just left it at that.
Old Woman,
It's obvious you DON'T UNDERSTAND the meaning of the word "DUMBFOUNDED" - so, I will try to educate you.

To be "DUMBFOUNDED" means to be "at a lose for words - because of a shocking , mysterious or bewildering conversation or experience.

As a matter of fact, I'm "DUMBFOUNDED" that you obvously don't know the meaning of the word - and I'm having to help you understand...

That's what watching all that right-wing garbage will to to you - it will turn your brain to mush...
oldwoman

Steele, MO

#138 Jul 5, 2013
1961 Alumni Rolla MO wrote:
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Old Woman,
It's obvious you DON'T UNDERSTAND the meaning of the word "DUMBFOUNDED" - so, I will try to educate you.
To be "DUMBFOUNDED" means to be "at a lose for words - because of a shocking , mysterious or bewildering conversation or experience.
As a matter of fact, I'm "DUMBFOUNDED" that you obvously don't know the meaning of the word - and I'm having to help you understand...
That's what watching all that right-wing garbage will to to you - it will turn your brain to mush...
I stand corrected....

You should have left it at "I am DUMB"
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

Rolla, MO

#139 Jul 5, 2013
oldwoman wrote:
<quoted text>I stand corrected....
You should have left it at "I am DUMB"
Oldwoman,
Again you have shown your ignorance!

The defination of the word "DUMB" means - lacking the power of speech. Or, it can also mean - conspicuously unintelligent or stupid.

Now, that you have shown you don't know the correct definition of either the word "DUMBFOUNDED" or "DUMB" - I would say this places you in the catagory of "DUMB, UNINTELLIGENT, STUPID OR IGNORANT. You choose which word you like the best...

This further proves my earlier statment that watching all that right-wing garbage will turn your brain to mush.

I'd say it's time you turn off Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, FOX & all the other right-wing propaganda machine & websites - and give your brain a chance to heal - from all that brain-washing...
jonas

Saint Louis, MO

#140 Jul 5, 2013
1961 Alumni Rolla MO wrote:
<quoted text>
Jerry,
You're ENTIRELY missing my point on this thread! I am dumbfounded that Paula Dean is taking such a beating from so many in this country for something she ALLEGEDLY said years ago!
My point was/is - why are they crucifying Paul Dean for ALLEGEDLY making racial statments (which were not even on the air or recorded)- when Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck Sean Hannity & Fox News regulary makes racial slurs aimed at President Obama (almost on a daily basis)
Do you not see something amiss here???
First of all, whether Paula Dean actually made racial slurs has YET TO BE DETERMINED. After all, this boils down to Paul Dean & her brother Bubba's word against an ex-employee who for almost a year has been trying to collect 12 million dollars to keep her mouths shut about Paula & her brother's ALLEGED racial slurs & actions.
Paula Dean & her brother refused to pay the ex-employee one dime - so the ex-employee filed suit against Paul & her brother - WHILE DESTROYING THEIR CAREERS & REPUTATION IN THE PROCESS.
Why is it Paula Dean & her brother can be sued & ruined financially - when NO ACTION IS TAKEN AGAINST LIMBAUGH, BECK, HANNITY & FOX for saying much worse things about President Obama???
I don't know why she is being singled out or why they're not going after beck, rush, and the bunch. However; Paula Dean is involved in a lawsuit over employment discrimination. This iis a dirty and ugly part of the law thar I could comment on but will refrain from doing. You can say just about anything you what about public figures and get away with it. Our legal system and its hardly fair.
jonas

Saint Louis, MO

#141 Jul 5, 2013
After all this is over, maybe Paula should look into starting her own Food Network, like Oprah did with own.

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#142 Jul 5, 2013
jonas wrote:
After all this is over, maybe Paula should look into starting her own Food Network, like Oprah did with own.
It worked out well for Glen Beck. Read the other day, he is now the highest paid media entertainment person out there.
Guest

Anonymous Proxy

#143 Jul 5, 2013
ComradeWinston wrote:
<quoted text>It worked out well for Glen Beck. Read the other day, he is now the highest paid media entertainment person out there.
"media entertainment" enough said. lol
Gene

Caruthersville, MO

#144 Jul 6, 2013
ComradeWinston wrote:
<quoted text>It worked out well for Glen Beck. Read the other day, he is now the highest paid media entertainment person out there.
"entertainment" says it all. You actually listen to this guy??
Beck is like all the other blow hards, including yourself. You model your character that you portray in Topix just like them all. Anyone should know that you dont act like this in public. Name calling people "Child Molesters" "Perverts" or making racial slurs about people because they aren't the same color as you. Guess that's why your the "entertainment" in Topix. Because anyone who takes you seriously is just like you and Beck and all like him.

Blow hard.

Poor baby. Only way you can get attention is to be the true racist ass that you are in life.
stank

Saint Louis, MO

#145 Jul 6, 2013
Gene wrote:
<quoted text>
"entertainment" says it all. You actually listen to this guy??
Beck is like all the other blow hards, including yourself. You model your character that you portray in Topix just like them all. Anyone should know that you dont act like this in public. Name calling people "Child Molesters" "Perverts" or making racial slurs about people because they aren't the same color as you. Guess that's why your the "entertainment" in Topix. Because anyone who takes you seriously is just like you and Beck and all like him.
Blow hard.
Poor baby. Only way you can get attention is to be the true racist ass that you are in life.
I can't stand the Glen Beck stank. Same goes for Rush, and crew, etc.
Paula Dean Viewer

United States

#146 Jul 31, 2013
Bring her back, if you do'nt like her do'n watch. People say and do thing we dislike all the the time and any where they like. Yet we seem to be holding Paula to a higher standard than we hold the rest of the public. I'm from her generation and in my opinion the "n word" is not a color it's an attitude and it's found in all races.
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

Rolla, MO

#147 Jul 31, 2013
Paula Dean Viewer wrote:
Bring her back, if you do'nt like her do'n watch. People say and do thing we dislike all the the time and any where they like. Yet we seem to be holding Paula to a higher standard than we hold the rest of the public. I'm from her generation and in my opinion the "n word" is not a color it's an attitude and it's found in all races.
I think the Food Network will live to regret firing Paula Dean. I imagine they've already took a lot of flack over their hasty decision to dump her. I also suspect their ratings have taken a quite a tumble...

I wonder where that will leave the Food Network, & the companies who've dumped her products - IF - THE RACIAL SLUR & SEXUAL HARRASMENT CASES THROWN OUT OF COURT???

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