Missouri Proposition B: The Puppy Mil...

Missouri Proposition B: The Puppy Mill Bill

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Diane

Royersford, PA

#7427 Jun 29, 2014
Anonymous wrote:
I will vote No cause it is a stupid bill. My dad has a kennel that he takes very good care of the dogs he has in it. They already have laws that should be enforced by the government and police instead of adding more to it.
Actually the current laws are inadequate to protect the quality of life of these animals in many kennels. State regulations which address the licensing of kennel operations may or may not include effective language as to standards of care. The USDA guidelines are not adequate. Just one of MANY examples!!!! These mills are given citations and time periods to correct. Meanwhile it is legal to stack up to 5 wire cages on top of each other, with up to 5 medium / small dogs per crate. They can be kept outdoors in temperatures close to freezing. This is all legal. I have personally participated in Puppy Mill rescues. While the breeders had violated no laws, had only received "warnings" we found dogs infested with heart worms, severe hip dysplasia, hernias, and so much more. We found PILES of dead dogs at more than location. Matted animals with eyes glued shut from lack of health care. Yet they were continually LEGALLY bred and puppies sold to brokers. It is truly disgusting. Take another look. You sound like you do care about the animals. Your education about what it takes to run a good facility would be of great help to animal rights organizations. I hope you get involved and at least take a look for yourself.

EXAMPLE
Stacy Farley, Lancaster, MO – Dogs smeared with feces, matted clumps as large as baseballs; mother dog had no water. In February 2014, USDA inspectors found five different types of violations at Farley’s kennel, including five dogs with only frozen water in their bowls and conditions so filthy that some of the dogs’“feet and legs have become soiled with feces and/or urine” from walking in feces-filled enclosures. The USDA had repeatedly warned Farley about the filthy conditions on previous visits, including a “strong and prominent ammonia [urine] odor” in the indoor kennel and accumulations of feces in some of the cages that made it difficult for the dogs to walk without stepping in it. In November 2013, a USDA inspector found one dog so badly matted that some of her mats were as large as baseballs, and noted “these mats were discolored brown possibly due to the fecal and urine accumulation in the enclosure.” The inspector also found a pregnant Maltese who had no water, and when given water at the inspector’s request, the dog “drank almost continuously for over a minute” as if she had not had water in a long time. On another occasion in July 2013, inspectors found a dead mouse floating in a dog’s water bowl and an “extreme insect and rodent problem” throughout the facility, among other problems. In August 2013, this dealer was given an official warning from the USDA for several of these repeated problems. USDA # 43-B-3663.
CLUE

Lenexa, KS

#7429 Jul 7, 2014
I Love all Animals. And I hope that dogs do not become unavailable due to prop B . I am also concerned that due to prop B That our Right to farm could be in danger .PLEASE support the farmers in the Aug 5 election.
layback

United States

#7430 Jul 10, 2014
Ilove dogs
udontknow

Branson, MO

#7431 Jul 16, 2014
Funny when people who make law act like they know anything about dogs. Proposing a rest period for puppy mommas is actually detrimental to their health! Scientific fact.

Meanwhile, the pound is full of free dogs, so if idiots would stop buying breeders dogs that problem would solve itself. We dont need farming laws, we need education- and not just for people but lawmakers as well.

Next they will assume its bad for a cows health to calve every year, and the government will cry that all the rabbits of the fields "need a break" between the several litters they birth, and how inhumane it is to raise cows chickens pigs goats just to kill and eat them.
The government needs to get its collective head straight and start doing for the people, and quit wasting time on issues like this.
udontknow

Branson, MO

#7432 Jul 16, 2014
Sure wrote:
<quoted text>
Breeding is not a "job". Also it's there not their. We euthanize 10k animals a day in the US. I have three purebred rescue dogs. We don't need more "breeder releases" to shelters. Breeders are not doing shelters favors. My vet bill last year was $4,200. Get a real education and a real job.
wrong answer, moralfag; the problem is PEOPLE, not breeders. If they wouldnt buy the puppies, breeders wouldnt breed so many. Look at horses right now. Breeders arent churning out colts because there is no market. Know why? Because some know nothing govt idiot decided to ban the slaughter market for horses! Used to be able to sell a crazy man-killer horse to the glue factory so to speak, now you cant. You could get 800 bucks for your 800lb idiot horse. This meant that a fine registered horse was obviously worth more. Much more. So now people have fine horses that have no value.... and horse ownership is declining....anyway if you want to see a vegetarian usa keep whinging.... cows pigs etc are next.
udontknow

Branson, MO

#7433 Jul 16, 2014
Curly Boi wrote:
<quoted text>
Cattle? A dog is not a cow.
No sh1t? They both feel pain and are furry animals.... where did you come up with the imaginary line?
udontknow

Branson, MO

#7434 Jul 16, 2014
Diane wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually the current laws are inadequate to protect the quality of life of these animals in many kennels. State regulations which address the licensing of kennel operations may or may not include effective language as to standards of care. The USDA guidelines are not adequate. Just one of MANY examples!!!! These mills are given citations and time periods to correct. Meanwhile it is legal to stack up to 5 wire cages on top of each other, with up to 5 medium / small dogs per crate. They can be kept outdoors in temperatures close to freezing. This is all legal. I have personally participated in Puppy Mill rescues. While the breeders had violated no laws, had only received "warnings" we found dogs infested with heart worms, severe hip dysplasia, hernias, and so much more. We found PILES of dead dogs at more than location. Matted animals with eyes glued shut from lack of health care. Yet they were continually LEGALLY bred and puppies sold to brokers. It is truly disgusting. Take another look. You sound like you do care about the animals. Your education about what it takes to run a good facility would be of great help to animal rights organizations. I hope you get involved and at least take a look for yourself.
EXAMPLE
Stacy Farley, Lancaster, MO – Dogs smeared with feces, matted clumps as large as baseballs; mother dog had no water. In February 2014, USDA inspectors found five different types of violations at Farley’s kennel, including five dogs with only frozen water in their bowls and conditions so filthy that some of the dogs’“feet and legs have become soiled with feces and/or urine” from walking in feces-filled enclosures. The USDA had repeatedly warned Farley about the filthy conditions on previous visits, including a “strong and prominent ammonia [urine] odor” in the indoor kennel and accumulations of feces in some of the cages that made it difficult for the dogs to walk without stepping in it. In November 2013, a USDA inspector found one dog so badly matted that some of her mats were as large as baseballs, and noted “these mats were discolored brown possibly due to the fecal and urine accumulation in the enclosure.” The inspector also found a pregnant Maltese who had no water, and when given water at the inspector’s request, the dog “drank almost continuously for over a minute” as if she had not had water in a long time. On another occasion in July 2013, inspectors found a dead mouse floating in a dog’s water bowl and an “extreme insect and rodent problem” throughout the facility, among other problems. In August 2013, this dealer was given an official warning from the USDA for several of these repeated problems. USDA # 43-B-3663.
So punish everyone else too, collectively. The same reason you should lose your drivers license because john doe the drunk driver killed a family in a car accident. John did that, but EVERYONE should pay. No driving for anyone! No innocence until proven guilty, no freedom, just... everyone is assumed guilty preemptively.

OTOH....ppl who treat their animals like this should be caged and given the same treatment. OMG, NO, THAT WOULD BE INHUMANE!

Lawmakers/ idiots.
Old Guy

Raleigh, NC

#7437 Jul 18, 2014
We don't need Puppy Mills. Personally, I think they should be banned nationally. If not, then any inspection that uncovers any type of animal abuse... They should be fined and prevented from reopening.
Diane

Royersford, PA

#7438 Jul 18, 2014
udontknow wrote:
Funny when people who make law act like they know anything about dogs. Proposing a rest period for puppy mommas is actually detrimental to their health! Scientific fact.
Meanwhile, the pound is full of free dogs, so if idiots would stop buying breeders dogs that problem would solve itself. We dont need farming laws, we need education- and not just for people but lawmakers as well.
Next they will assume its bad for a cows health to calve every year, and the government will cry that all the rabbits of the fields "need a break" between the several litters they birth, and how inhumane it is to raise cows chickens pigs goats just to kill and eat them.
The government needs to get its collective head straight and start doing for the people, and quit wasting time on issues like this.
You don't know much about dog breeding. Your analogy using cows is ridiculous. Of course we all need to concentrate our efforts on the rescue of animals at shelters. MANY of them came from PUPPY MILL! DUH!
Diane

Royersford, PA

#7439 Jul 18, 2014
udontknow wrote:
<quoted text>
So punish everyone else too, collectively. The same reason you should lose your drivers license because john doe the drunk driver killed a family in a car accident. John did that, but EVERYONE should pay. No driving for anyone! No innocence until proven guilty, no freedom, just... everyone is assumed guilty preemptively.
OTOH....ppl who treat their animals like this should be caged and given the same treatment. OMG, NO, THAT WOULD BE INHUMANE!
Lawmakers/ idiots.
" So punish everyone else too, collectively. The same reason you should lose your drivers license because john doe the drunk driver killed a family in a car accident. John did that, but EVERYONE should pay. No driving for anyone! No innocence until proven guilty, no freedom, just... everyone is assumed guilty preemptively."

Completely idiotic statement. The laws are inadequate. That does not mean there are some (very few) that are running quality dog breeding businesses.
Guest

Saint Louis, MO

#7440 Jul 19, 2014
Let us make some more stupid laws. Stay the hell out of peoples bidness!!!
Tommy

Gideon, MO

#7441 Jul 20, 2014
I've never seen a puppy mill
guest

Kansas City, MO

#7442 Jul 21, 2014
what is a puppy mill?
Diane

Royersford, PA

#7443 Jul 22, 2014
guest wrote:
what is a puppy mill?
Please read my post on June 29. I have done rescues at puppy mills. Horrific. Google and u will find the ugly truth.
Diane

Royersford, PA

#7444 Jul 22, 2014
guest wrote:
what is a puppy mill?
. And these puppies are sold to "brokers" at swap meets. Then to pet shops. Many are bred using AKC registrations that are not accurate. Many females are bred to males that are not the actual AKC sire. Money
DexterDivo

Kennett, MO

#7445 Jul 23, 2014
Stop the mills
Macrsim

Pittsburgh, PA

#7446 Jul 23, 2014
CLUE

Saint Louis, MO

#7447 Jul 23, 2014
DexterDivo wrote:
Stop the mills
Ck out How Jay Nixon and Chris Koster are associated with HSUS. Also ck out how HSUS is being investigated by several states attorney generals. Ck out how many jobs were lost in Mo when prop B passed. We have since lost a lot of good dog breeders. I sure hope Mo will vote Yes on Amendment 1 on AUG 5,So that Mo does not lose our Right to Farm. HSUS drummed up the Name Puppy Mill .To pull on the heart strings of innocent people.That is how HSUS opened the door to MO. Remenber who supply's your food.Did you eat today? Thank A FARMER
why

United States

#7449 Aug 4, 2014
no and no!!
guest

Scott City, MO

#7450 Aug 5, 2014
You want a dog? Rescue one of the shelter dogs. Vote no to puppie mills altogether.

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