Is Paul Ryan Completely Nuts???
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

Rolla, MO

#49 Mar 24, 2013
ComradeWinston wrote:
<quoted text>What’s left of the "working poor and middle class" will always be the payroll check drawing citizens who pay any new taxes. If the democrats want to increase taxes by a trillion dollars, you can bet it will come from the people who draw a payroll check.
You say it's going to come from removing loopholes from the very rich? Who do you think works for the very rich? Who do the very rich sell their products and services to? Who owns the Democratic Party, the George Soros, GE, Google, Warren Buffet types or is it the poor who don't want to pay taxes?
Enjoy watching those poor ultra rich elites suffer, while you pay for that trillion dollar tax increase they say you need so they can increase government control over your lives. Get rid of that salt, put the big gulp down and sell all your guns. Start walking to work rather than drive that SUV. I'm sure the ultra rich will sell their gulf streams and five lakeside mansions, yeah, right...
Stupid Sheeple
I have given A LOT OF THOUGHT to this matter of young Americans (especially Republicans) griping about having to pay payroll taxes to fund Social Security & Medicare - and I have come to the conclusion that this current generation is JUST NOT AS SMART nor ARE THEY AS GOOD a class of PEOPLE AS PAST GENERATIONS! Because they have no sense of responsibility except for their own wants & needs (right now)!

Young people today,(especially conservatives) are giving NO THOUGHT to WHAT TOMMORROW WILL BRING - or how they will survive in their own retirement years...

Many people (of my generation) was more than willing to have payroll taxes raised in order to provide for our parents & our own retirement. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY (especially conservatives)?

My husband & I together paid payroll taxes to fund Medicare & Social Security for over 80 years and WE NEVER FELT ANY RESENTMENT AT ALL about payroll taxes, because we knew we were providing for our parents welfare, as well as our own retirement years.

Comrade, you are seriously in need of help! You have watched way too much of that GOP propaganda - and it has messed up your mind. I think, most of us on Topix just sort of laugh your comments off - because we know that you're not playing with a full deck...
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

Rolla, MO

#50 Mar 24, 2013
John Doe wrote:
Alumni,
You have expertly shown the problem. People from both sides are making sweeping statements about budgets and vouchering when we have never seen the actual numbers or how any of is supposed to work.
I am not jumping on the new Dem budget because I just don't know what's in it. There's talk of tax hikes in the new Dem budget but the left is saying it is only on millionaires. Heck the last tax hike the dems got through was only supposed to be on millions too but it hit everyone and suddenly the talk of taxing the top 1% became taxing the top 2% with everyone else getting a 2 percent hike.
The problem we all face is what has been promised and never given. Transparency. Until the budgets are posted where all of us can see them and study, we're never going to know what is going.
My question is why will neither side posted their projected budgets and how they envision things working. Please note, I have said both sides here.
John Doe,
It's refreshing we've been able to communicate recently without getting into an big argument. But, at the risk of stirring up your ire, I will try to expain (one more time) why the payroll tax was raised by 2% at the beginning of this year.

You see, last year Obama cut the payroll taxes by 2%. This was only to be temporary. However, Obama tried to get congress to continue this 2% for one more year - but Republicans nixed the idea. So, you can blame that 2% payroll tax increase on Republicans.

This 2% payroll tax increase at the first of the year had nothing to do with the tax increase on the top 2%.

Do you understand???

“Radical Islam! Radical Islam! ”

Since: Mar 08

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#51 Mar 25, 2013
1961 Alumni Rolla MO wrote:
<quoted text>
I have given A LOT OF THOUGHT to this matter of young Americans (especially Republicans) griping about having to pay payroll taxes to fund Social Security & Medicare - and I have come to the conclusion that this current generation is JUST NOT AS SMART nor ARE THEY AS GOOD a class of PEOPLE AS PAST GENERATIONS! Because they have no sense of responsibility except for their own wants & needs (right now)!
Young people today,(especially conservatives) are giving NO THOUGHT to WHAT TOMMORROW WILL BRING - or how they will survive in their own retirement years...
Many people (of my generation) was more than willing to have payroll taxes raised in order to provide for our parents & our own retirement. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUNG PEOPLE TODAY (especially conservatives)?
My husband & I together paid payroll taxes to fund Medicare & Social Security for over 80 years and WE NEVER FELT ANY RESENTMENT AT ALL about payroll taxes, because we knew we were providing for our parents welfare, as well as our own retirement years.
Comrade, you are seriously in need of help! You have watched way too much of that GOP propaganda - and it has messed up your mind. I think, most of us on Topix just sort of laugh your comments off - because we know that you're not playing with a full deck...
Alumni, you have swerved into a great big truth. With the exception of your distinction about it being only “conservative” young people, I agree with you. But, you need to truthfully ask yourself why this happened.

When you do get the nerve to honestly ask that question, you will not like the obvious truth as to why a great deal of today’s young fit the description you described above.

Could it be government has made it too easy for them to avoid any responsibility? Has government not done such a great job of being the countries nanny state? It wasn’t “conservatives” who ushered in the current state of affairs we now have live with.

As for social security and Medicare solvency, it’s not so much that the young don’t want to pay their payroll taxes. It’s the current job situation combined with the fact of numbers, pure and simple.

When you and your husband paid those payroll taxes to support grandma, their were a lot more you paying and lot less grandma’s drawing the checks. I’m talking 10 – 1 range. Today it’s more in the 2 or 3 to 1 range. Soon it will be one working for every one drawing a check. I know, you’re alarmed because you feel you did your part and now “where have all the tax paying young people gone?”

A great deal of those “young” are minorities or illegals who don’t share the same values you did. Your party has created a nightmare scenario of a welfare state that will reward you for not working, as long as you keep the same corrupt, liberal politicians in office. Vote for them and they will continue to reward laziness and allow them to work the system, not a job.

Thanks to democratic party government overregulation, good paying jobs are not that plentiful anyway
Gene

Caruthersville, MO

#52 Mar 25, 2013
Wonder how long it took him to copy and paste all that from different blogs?
Gene

Caruthersville, MO

#53 Mar 25, 2013
Comrade, I agree with 61 on her perception of you. Your laughable with your response because they ALL end repeating themselves over and over and over....you're like broke record.

Im going to start referring to you as "Comrade Rove"
Because he still thinks Obama didnt win Ohio too
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

Rolla, MO

#54 Mar 25, 2013
ComradeWinston wrote:
<quoted text>Alumni, you have swerved into a great big truth. With the exception of your distinction about it being only “conservative” young people, I agree with you. But, you need to truthfully ask yourself why this happened.
When you do get the nerve to honestly ask that question, you will not like the obvious truth as to why a great deal of today’s young fit the description you described above.
Could it be government has made it too easy for them to avoid any responsibility? Has government not done such a great job of being the countries nanny state? It wasn’t “conservatives” who ushered in the current state of affairs we now have live with.
As for social security and Medicare solvency, it’s not so much that the young don’t want to pay their payroll taxes. It’s the current job situation combined with the fact of numbers, pure and simple.
When you and your husband paid those payroll taxes to support grandma, their were a lot more you paying and lot less grandma’s drawing the checks. I’m talking 10 – 1 range. Today it’s more in the 2 or 3 to 1 range. Soon it will be one working for every one drawing a check. I know, you’re alarmed because you feel you did your part and now “where have all the tax paying young people gone?”
A great deal of those “young” are minorities or illegals who don’t share the same values you did. Your party has created a nightmare scenario of a welfare state that will reward you for not working, as long as you keep the same corrupt, liberal politicians in office. Vote for them and they will continue to reward laziness and allow them to work the system, not a job.
Thanks to democratic party government overregulation, good paying jobs are not that plentiful anyway
Comrade,
I want to commend you for your comments which were made in a very respectful manner. I admit, I'm somewhat shamed by my snarky comments to you in light of your response to me. That being said, you HAVE brought up some very good & TRUE POINTS.

Now, at the expense of sounding like a broken record, yes, there are millions more people on welfare, foodstamps & public housing today. But, the primary reason for that is the (near depression) state of the economy as George Bush ended his presidency.

Even though Obama is in his 5th year as president, we are still in the thros of the (near great depression) state of the economy brought on by Bush's big tax cuts, 2 unfunded wars, the unfunded part D prescription drug & the housing bust.

Add to that, the obstruction in congress (for the last few years) to get any legislation passed which would actually create jobs - our country remains in limbo.

And until, that changes & millions of these people (who now dependent on government for their lifeline of exitence) can find jobs to support their family - we will continue to be as you said "a nanny state".

Had government never spent money to put people back to work during the great depression of the 30', we would never have got out of the that ditch.

THE SAME IS TRUE OF THIS BUSH GREAT DEPRESSION...
J L Trumbill

United States

#56 Mar 25, 2013
ComradeWinston wrote:
<quoted text>Alumni, you have swerved into a great big truth. With the exception of your distinction about it being only “conservative” young people, I agree with you. But, you need to truthfully ask yourself why this happened.
When you do get the nerve to honestly ask that question, you will not like the obvious truth as to why a great deal of today’s young fit the description you described above.
Could it be government has made it too easy for them to avoid any responsibility? Has government not done such a great job of being the countries nanny state? It wasn’t “conservatives” who ushered in the current state of affairs we now have live with.
As for social security and Medicare solvency, it’s not so much that the young don’t want to pay their payroll taxes. It’s the current job situation combined with the fact of numbers, pure and simple.
When you and your husband paid those payroll taxes to support grandma, their were a lot more you paying and lot less grandma’s drawing the checks. I’m talking 10 – 1 range. Today it’s more in the 2 or 3 to 1 range. Soon it will be one working for every one drawing a check. I know, you’re alarmed because you feel you did your part and now “where have all the tax paying young people gone?”
A great deal of those “young” are minorities or illegals who don’t share the same values you did. Your party has created a nightmare scenario of a welfare state that will reward you for not working, as long as you keep the same corrupt, liberal politicians in office. Vote for them and they will continue to reward laziness and allow them to work the system, not a job.
Thanks to democratic party government overregulation, good paying jobs are not that plentiful anyway
So lets just do away with all Democrats. After that who are you going to blame then you ignorant idiot?
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

Rolla, MO

#57 Mar 25, 2013
Truthbetold wrote:
<quoted text>the Bush tax cuts have been the only positive the economy has had happen to it since 9/11. If not for those tax cuts (which increased the tax revenues) we would be in a full blown depression.
I agree with you about the two unfunded wars being a real drag on the economy. Remember, the decision to fight those wars was bipartisan, democrats voted right along with republicans. Blame Bush all you want but the facts are the facts. Democrats were first for it until they checked the opinion polls and decided to be against it.
Cheap oil and the second world war ended the great depression, not government spending on social programs by FDR. He gets credit for feeding a lot of out of work Americans but not for ending the depression with ever bigger government.
Truthbetold,

YOU COULDN'T BE ANYMORE WRONG WRONG WRONG ABOUT THE BUSH TAX CUTS!!!!!!!!!!

Don't you have enough sense to see that it was the Bush tax cuts that got us into this mess in the first place!!

Just like Bill Clinton said is just ARITHMETIC! If we'd had more tax money coming in during the Bush administration, the 2 unfunded wars, the part D unfunded prescription drug program & the housing bust wouldn't have hit our economy so hard.

What is it with you??? It's clear you've listened to way too much GOP propaganda garbage & it's completely messed up your mind - Because you're obviously are not playing with a full deck!!!

Yes, times were so bad back during the great depression many people WERE ACTUALLY STARVING TO DEATH (this means dying from malnutrition)! Roosevelt fed millions of hungry people & saved them from starving to death!

Roosevelt also started the WPA which put thousands & thousands to work building up this country's infrastructure. This is what started bringing our country out of the depths of the great depression. Of course, when WW 2 came along this was a big push in getting this country back on its feet.(Never have I heard that cheap oil played any part in the recovery of the great depression).

We need to return to a WPA type of program which will shore up our crumbling infrastructure (some of which was built during the first great depression). That's right we need to get people working so they will have money in their pockets to spend which will in turn stimulate business & industry to get this country's engine moving again & put more tax money in the government coffers (so we can pay down our deficits & national debt).

“Radical Islam! Radical Islam! ”

Since: Mar 08

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#58 Mar 26, 2013
1961 Alumni Rolla MO wrote:
<quoted text>
Truthbetold,
YOU COULDN'T BE ANYMORE WRONG WRONG WRONG ABOUT THE BUSH TAX CUTS!!!!!!!!!!
Don't you have enough sense to see that it was the Bush tax cuts that got us into this mess in the first place!!
Just like Bill Clinton said is just ARITHMETIC! If we'd had more tax money coming in during the Bush administration, the 2 unfunded wars, the part D unfunded prescription drug program & the housing bust wouldn't have hit our economy so hard.
What is it with you??? It's clear you've listened to way too much GOP propaganda garbage & it's completely messed up your mind - Because you're obviously are not playing with a full deck!!!
Yes, times were so bad back during the great depression many people WERE ACTUALLY STARVING TO DEATH (this means dying from malnutrition)! Roosevelt fed millions of hungry people & saved them from starving to death!
Roosevelt also started the WPA which put thousands & thousands to work building up this country's infrastructure. This is what started bringing our country out of the depths of the great depression. Of course, when WW 2 came along this was a big push in getting this country back on its feet.(Never have I heard that cheap oil played any part in the recovery of the great depression).
We need to return to a WPA type of program which will shore up our crumbling infrastructure (some of which was built during the first great depression). That's right we need to get people working so they will have money in their pockets to spend which will in turn stimulate business & industry to get this country's engine moving again & put more tax money in the government coffers (so we can pay down our deficits & national debt).
Cheap oil was the life blood of the factories and plants that provided the middle class homes electricity and jobs. Plentiful coal and cheap Texas oil and educated labor force made America the most competitive place in the world to start up a factory.

Right. We need to greatly increase legal immigration. We need to "Americanize" and educate the legal immigrants and put them to work providing for their families and paying taxes to the country. The illegal labor we now employ work mostly on the lower end of the wage scale and a lot of the time for cash. They're not well enough educated and definitely don't have a desire to become "Americanized”.

Personally, I don't see it ever happening. Instead of working toward legal immigration, we have preferred illegal’s working dirt cheap doing only jobs Americans will not do, for minimum wages. Big switch to suddenly want to allow educated people immigrate and provide an economy with good paying jobs.

Paying down the deficit and the debt is a pipe dream. Even the Ryan budget increases government spending every year. While it does promise to pay down the debt, that promise is based on increasing the work force with a much better economy, spurred on by an energy plan, less government regulation and an greatly increasing tax base.

If you will look, you will see the democratic budget passed by the senate doesn't even work toward paying off any debt. At this, I agree democrats a more realistic. They have screwed things up so royally; they know it will never be put back together. They have no intention of even trying. They are betting on solving Americas spending problem the same way a drunk gets sober. When the nation hits bottom and can’t sink any lower, they will then take total control of our lives and they will be the masters in total control of their own slave state. &#61514;
Gene

Caruthersville, MO

#59 Mar 26, 2013
You're like clockwork. Every morning around 6-6:15 AM you post the same drivel hate Democrats and Obama and this afternoon, you'll be on time at the same time posting the same drivel.

So like J L Trumbill mentioned above, if we did away with Democrats all together, who would you blame then? Your a lunatic racist Comrade. I have never met anyone like you in my life. I never knew a pew sitting bastard like you could have this much hate in your black heart.
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

Rolla, MO

#60 Mar 26, 2013
ComradeWinston wrote:
<quoted text>Cheap oil was the life blood of the factories and plants that provided the middle class homes electricity and jobs. Plentiful coal and cheap Texas oil and educated labor force made America the most competitive place in the world to start up a factory.
Right. We need to greatly increase legal immigration. We need to "Americanize" and educate the legal immigrants and put them to work providing for their families and paying taxes to the country. The illegal labor we now employ work mostly on the lower end of the wage scale and a lot of the time for cash. They're not well enough educated and definitely don't have a desire to become "Americanized”.
Personally, I don't see it ever happening. Instead of working toward legal immigration, we have preferred illegal’s working dirt cheap doing only jobs Americans will not do, for minimum wages. Big switch to suddenly want to allow educated people immigrate and provide an economy with good paying jobs.
Paying down the deficit and the debt is a pipe dream. Even the Ryan budget increases government spending every year. While it does promise to pay down the debt, that promise is based on increasing the work force with a much better economy, spurred on by an energy plan, less government regulation and an greatly increasing tax base.
If you will look, you will see the democratic budget passed by the senate doesn't even work toward paying off any debt. At this, I agree democrats a more realistic. They have screwed things up so royally; they know it will never be put back together. They have no intention of even trying. They are betting on solving Americas spending problem the same way a drunk gets sober. When the nation hits bottom and can’t sink any lower, they will then take total control of our lives and they will be the masters in total control of their own slave state. &#61514;
No Comrade, all Democrats want to do is PRIME THE PUMP (with more government spending) in order to get our economy moving.

Of course, I'm sure you're not old enough to remember when you had to pour water into a pump in order to get any water out of it.

Same thing is true with this economy.

We've got to spend money to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, etc. These infrastructure workers' wages will guarantee more income taxes coming into government coffers.

These workers wages will also enable these infrastructure workers to be able to BUY computers, tvs, cars, homes, clothing, food, take vacations & the list goes on & on. This will be a HUGE boom to all types of business & manufacturing. And this is exactly what it is going to take.

And yes, we also need to greatly increase legal immigration - but also give a path to illegals to become legal. Then with the wages all these immigrants earn there will be MORE INCOME TAX MONEY COMING INTO OUR GOVERNMENT'S COFFERS & they will also have money to buy things also which will further stimulate our economy.

Seems like Republicans would do well to enroll in college and take some classes in economics 101.
Avid Reader

Caruthersville, MO

#62 Mar 26, 2013
No he expects someone to prime the pump and bring the water to him Alumni. Cant you tell by now your dealing with a GOP hypocrite?? They think that they're owed something in life because they think they are the only ones who pay taxes. Therefor they think they're the only ones allowed to voice a opinion and if you disagree, the very first thing out of their mouths is a ugly name or cursed at from them.

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#63 Mar 26, 2013
1961 Alumni Rolla MO wrote:
<quoted text>
No Comrade, all Democrats want to do is PRIME THE PUMP (with more government spending) in order to get our economy moving.
Of course, I'm sure you're not old enough to remember when you had to pour water into a pump in order to get any water out of it.
Same thing is true with this economy.
We've got to spend money to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, etc. These infrastructure workers' wages will guarantee more income taxes coming into government coffers.
These workers wages will also enable these infrastructure workers to be able to BUY computers, tvs, cars, homes, clothing, food, take vacations & the list goes on & on. This will be a HUGE boom to all types of business & manufacturing. And this is exactly what it is going to take.
And yes, we also need to greatly increase legal immigration - but also give a path to illegals to become legal. Then with the wages all these immigrants earn there will be MORE INCOME TAX MONEY COMING INTO OUR GOVERNMENT'S COFFERS & they will also have money to buy things also which will further stimulate our economy.
Seems like Republicans would do well to enroll in college and take some classes in economics 101.
If Money were water, it would take more water than a weeks worth of flow down the Mississippi river to “prime the pump” as you say, the way the democrats spend money. 6 trillion dollars in a little over 4 years is a heck of a lot of “priming”.

No, democrats are not priming the pump Alumni; they’re draining the aquifer of drinking water. Soon the money/water won’t be worth drinking.

Still, the unemployment rate has not come down. Inflation has gone up. Food stamp usage is still heading up. People drawing disability checks are rapidly on the rise. Did you know we now have more people drawing disability than we have on unemployment and drawing food stamps combined?

Did you know once you get on disability, you are no longer considered part of the work force? That’s just one more hidden statistic that keeps the unemployment rate below 10% officially speaking, of course.

If you can’t “prime the pump” with 85 billion a month, you need to dig a new well. 17 trillion is a lot of dough to owe.

The democrats and Obama have ventured off into ridiculous land. Thats economics 101.
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

Rolla, MO

#64 Mar 26, 2013
Avid Reader wrote:
No he expects someone to prime the pump and bring the water to him Alumni. Cant you tell by now your dealing with a GOP hypocrite?? They think that they're owed something in life because they think they are the only ones who pay taxes. Therefor they think they're the only ones allowed to voice a opinion and if you disagree, the very first thing out of their mouths is a ugly name or cursed at from them.
Avid Reader,
You are so right about Republicans. They keep harping about ENTITLEMENTS. They way they talk - you'd think they are (personally) having to support elderly people & poor people out of their own pockets. When in reality - I doubt many of these loud-mouth so-called conservatives on this forum pay any taxes at all!

I've had many of those hot-shot so-called conservatives (on this forum) actually tell me they are having support me & pay my medical bills & medication!

This was said to me even though I worked 37 years & paid payroll taxes into Medicare & Medicare. My husband also paid into both programs all his working life. Both of us together paid into Social Security & Medicare for over 80 years - yet conservatives (on this forum) claim they are having to support me...

They don't seem to understand (or care) that when my husband & I were working - our payroll taxes were going to pay for our parents Social Security & Medicare.

Can you imagine (just a few years ago) that anyone would DARE SPEAK SO DISRESPECTFUL TO AN ELDERLY PERSON? No, this would have never ever ever ever have happened just a few years ago - before Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Shaun Hannity & Fox brain-washed half of the people in this country.

Yes, we can blame Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Fox & the rest of the GOP propaganda machine for a complete break-down of respect in this country. We used to be a polite mannerly people in this country, but since the GOP loud-mouth's - our country has become probably the most ill-mannered, rude, arrogant, disrespectful bunch of baboons in the world,

And lastly, SOCIAL SECURITY & MEDICARE ARE NOT ENTITLEMENTS. They are programs we paid for all our working life - and I do not feel guilty in the least that I'm now receiving the benefits I paid for - and am not entitled to. Yes, our government IS OBLIGATED TO PAY THESE BENEFITS TO ME!
1961 Alumni Rolla MO

Rolla, MO

#65 Mar 26, 2013
ComradeWinston wrote:
<quoted text>If Money were water, it would take more water than a weeks worth of flow down the Mississippi river to “prime the pump” as you say, the way the democrats spend money. 6 trillion dollars in a little over 4 years is a heck of a lot of “priming”.
No, democrats are not priming the pump Alumni; they’re draining the aquifer of drinking water. Soon the money/water won’t be worth drinking.
Still, the unemployment rate has not come down. Inflation has gone up. Food stamp usage is still heading up. People drawing disability checks are rapidly on the rise. Did you know we now have more people drawing disability than we have on unemployment and drawing food stamps combined?
Did you know once you get on disability, you are no longer considered part of the work force? That’s just one more hidden statistic that keeps the unemployment rate below 10% officially speaking, of course.
If you can’t “prime the pump” with 85 billion a month, you need to dig a new well. 17 trillion is a lot of dough to owe.
The democrats and Obama have ventured off into ridiculous land. Thats economics 101.
I don't doubt more people are on disability now!

Do you have to ask why?

All you have to do is look around. Have you ever seen so many FAT FAT FAT PEOPLE IN YOUR LIFE???

Yet, when Demcorats try to do something about it - by trying to pass laws to cut down the calorie intake of Americans - you Republicans get up in arms!!!

Unless we can get this OBESE PROBLEM under control - we're going to have a lot more people filing for disability before they are old enough to retire.

Are you fat?

If you are morbidly obese - don't be surprised if you're not filing for your disability in just a few years.

Yes, along with all are financial problems & political dead-lock - America also has a FAT PROBLEM. People in this country are literaly eating themselves to death!!!

Just go to the schools & look around. Probably one-third of those kids are obese. A few years ago - you probably wouldn't see but maybe about 5% of obese kids.

Now, that figure has shot up to 30-35% or more. Young kids are being diagnosed with high-blood pressure, high cholestrol and diabetes - even before they get in Jr. High.

Democrats & Republicans need to start waging a war against FAT. And this should be a bi-partisan effort...
J L Trumbill

United States

#66 Mar 26, 2013
ComradeWinston wrote:
<quoted text>If Money were water, it would take more water than a weeks worth of flow down the Mississippi river to “prime the pump” as you say, the way the democrats spend money. 6 trillion dollars in a little over 4 years is a heck of a lot of “priming”.
No, democrats are not priming the pump Alumni; they’re draining the aquifer of drinking water. Soon the money/water won’t be worth drinking.
Still, the unemployment rate has not come down. Inflation has gone up. Food stamp usage is still heading up. People drawing disability checks are rapidly on the rise. Did you know we now have more people drawing disability than we have on unemployment and drawing food stamps combined?
Did you know once you get on disability, you are no longer considered part of the work force? That’s just one more hidden statistic that keeps the unemployment rate below 10% officially speaking, of course.
If you can’t “prime the pump” with 85 billion a month, you need to dig a new well. 17 trillion is a lot of dough to owe.
The democrats and Obama have ventured off into ridiculous land. Thats economics 101.
Bush spent 10 times more and ignorant idiot like you refuse to discuss or even want to hear how much the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan has cost the American taxpayer all due to Bush
Gene

Caruthersville, MO

#68 Mar 27, 2013
OH LOOK EVERYONE!!!!!!

Truthbetold AKA "guest" AKA Comrade Rove all appear at the SAME TIME to defend one another!!!!!!!!!!

Thats 3 for the price of one!

Hey that way he can judge his own posts!!!

$5 gas baby WOO HOO!
Gene

Caruthersville, MO

#69 Mar 27, 2013
Truthbetold wrote:
<quoted text>roughly, Bush ran up a 4 trillion dollar deficit in 8 years after 9/11 and that was too much. Obama ha ran up almost 6 trillion in just over 4 years. WAY TOO MUCH.
Don't be calling people ignorant when you obviously have no clue as to what the facts are.
LOL ok clueless allow me to make you look like a idiot AGAIN!

There was a 18 percent spike in spending in fiscal 2009 for which Obama is blamed entirely. But what jackasses idiots like you forget to include FACT is that it was mostly due to appropriations and policies that were already in place when Obama took office.

That includes spending for the bank bailout legislation approved by President Bush. Annual increases in amounts actually spent since fiscal 2009 have been relatively modest. In fact, spending for the first seven months of the current fiscal year is running slightly below the same period.

Let use the same phrase that you idiots used when Bush was in the White House as an excuse for gas prices in comparison to Obama spending. SUPPLY AND DEMAND!

$5 gas baby!!!!!!!!!! WOO HOO!
John Doe

Poplar Bluff, MO

#70 Mar 27, 2013
1961 Alumni Rolla MO wrote:
<quoted text>
John Doe,
It's refreshing we've been able to communicate recently without getting into an big argument. But, at the risk of stirring up your ire, I will try to expain (one more time) why the payroll tax was raised by 2% at the beginning of this year.
You see, last year Obama cut the payroll taxes by 2%. This was only to be temporary. However, Obama tried to get congress to continue this 2% for one more year - but Republicans nixed the idea. So, you can blame that 2% payroll tax increase on Republicans.
This 2% payroll tax increase at the first of the year had nothing to do with the tax increase on the top 2%.
Do you understand???
Alumni,

Sorry lady but you are only telling half of the story. The other half of the story was that Obama had added a major tax hike on everyone earning over $500,000/per year. That is why the Republicans nixed the law. The Republicans say tax cuts for all.

Now before you jump on the what the rich can and can't afford and all of this fair share stuff, let's talk about fair share.

Depending on the source you use, the so called 1% already pay 75% to 90% of all revenues received by the federal government. Let's use the low end of the figure for this debate, that's 75%. In simple terms that means 75 cents of ever cent of money going into the federal government comes from 1% of all earners and the other 25 cents comes from the other 99%. Now the Obama and the democrats talk about paying their fair share. What is their fair share? 80%, 90%, 100%?

you cannot keep hiking the taxes on the richest and expect nothing will happen.

Cyprus is in financial trouble right now. It has been all over the news. If the Cypriots were to announce to the world a new tax plan. Everyone pays a flat 10% with no deductions. At the same time the Democrats push through a new tax plan raising the taxes on the rich to 60%. France is already at 75% and their rich are leaving. It has been in the news.

Now, with that circumstance, how many of our rich and how many rich from around the world would start giving serious consideration to make Cyprus their home? How many would do that? What happens to the American Tax base if the rich were to move away?
Nautilus1

Eatontown, NJ

#71 Mar 27, 2013
1961 Alumni Rolla MO wrote:
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I don't doubt more people are on disability now!
Do you have to ask why?
All you have to do is look around. Have you ever seen so many FAT FAT FAT PEOPLE IN YOUR LIFE???
Yet, when Demcorats try to do something about it - by trying to pass laws to cut down the calorie intake of Americans - you Republicans get up in arms!!!
Unless we can get this OBESE PROBLEM under control - we're going to have a lot more people filing for disability before they are old enough to retire.
Are you fat?
If you are morbidly obese - don't be surprised if you're not filing for your disability in just a few years.
Yes, along with all are financial problems & political dead-lock - America also has a FAT PROBLEM. People in this country are literaly eating themselves to death!!!
Just go to the schools & look around. Probably one-third of those kids are obese. A few years ago - you probably wouldn't see but maybe about 5% of obese kids.
Now, that figure has shot up to 30-35% or more. Young kids are being diagnosed with high-blood pressure, high cholestrol and diabetes - even before they get in Jr. High.
Democrats & Republicans need to start waging a war against FAT. And this should be a bi-partisan effort...
Now I understand why you think Duck Dynasty is the greatest show on TV. Maybe you shouldn't have stopped going to school in the 3rd grade.

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