IRS Scandal continues to unravel, Oba...

IRS Scandal continues to unravel, Obama officials involved

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#1 Jul 8, 2013
“I think what we’re going to find out and I think that the deeper part is not so much the Tea Party and the ‘Patriot’ and those people who were targeted, but the information that has been leaked,” Kelly, a member of the House Ways and Means Committee which is conducting one of the congressional investigations into the matter, said in a phone interview.

“The information that the IRS has on file on people goes pretty deep into personal lives. It is being leaked out and given to people for very specific political reasons. I think this is something that should be the most chilling thing for Americans to understand.

"This is a branch of government and it is under the executive branch that can be used for a lot of different intimidation elements. Think of what these people have, think of what they have on everybody. If they leak that out to the right person at the right time in the right movement that’s looking to do something, they can completely destroy individuals.”

Kelly believes the revelation the IRS targeting of various conservative organizations was just the beginning of a larger scandal that will continue unraveling. Kelly sees this burgeoning scandal cutting to the core of the IRS as a whole, and likely tying in more prominent Obama administration officials.

Now that the targeting of conservative groups seeking nonprofit status has been exposed, Kelly thinks these other elements of IRS scandal are going to come out.

Kelly, a second-term congressman who rose to conservative prominence a little over a month ago when he berated the IRS in a committee hearing, also said alleged audit power abuse is likely to become a focus, too.

“Especially what we’ve seen happening now with the data collection and the depth to which the data collection is going,” Kelly said.“Who is getting this information? There were donor lists that were leaked out. Highly, highly sensitive and private information was leaked out.”

Kelly said the House Ways and Means Committee has had many whistleblowers and tipsters come forward with information and leads, but committee staff and members need to follow each one through to its end before coming out with any more information.

“There’s a lot more to come,” Kelly said.“[Acting IRS commissioner Danny] Werfel was in last week or maybe it was a little over a week ago. One of the things he says is he thinks we’re a couple months away from really finding things out. When he came in, he gave us kind of an update with boilerplate stuff of what you would do if you were going in and what you were looking for and what your desired outcomes were. But he really didn’t give us an update or any specifics at all. It was just more or less that he was on the job now and that he was going to be working to get it fixed.

Kelly added that he thinks “there’s so much more there.”

“And we’re having whistleblowers come out that are saying things now and we have to make sure everything we’re hearing is in fact true and we can look into it,” he said.

Kelly also said that he gets the impression IRS officials do not care if they committed illegal activity.

“I got to tell you, from sitting across from some of these folks [who work for the Obama administration in the IRS], they really do believe they’re above the law,” he said.“You look at them and you can tell by the way they talk to you. They kind of give you a patent answer and probably some talking points they were given and told ‘just stick to this line and don’t go any further.’

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#2 Jul 8, 2013
One more grasp of air before drowning!!

We would have heard something before now. If not why so quiet.

An unintended consequence of the Republican attacks on the IRS has been.....

that they have shined a big spotlight on their own dark money activities.

People are now finding out that these conservative groups have been committing perjury by lying to

the Irs on a regular basis about their partisan political activities in order to avoid paying taxes.

Naw, it's not going any where the republican don't want to open that can of worms.

The great (law breaking criminal) Issa was informed about it way back and did nothing about it

So why not?

Don't fret there are more stuff the No Waste tax payers republican party can waste money on.

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#3 Jul 8, 2013
catfish59 wrote:
One more grasp of air before drowning!!
We would have heard something before now. If not why so quiet.
An unintended consequence of the Republican attacks on the IRS has been.....
that they have shined a big spotlight on their own dark money activities.
People are now finding out that these conservative groups have been committing perjury by lying to
the Irs on a regular basis about their partisan political activities in order to avoid paying taxes.
Naw, it's not going any where the republican don't want to open that can of worms.
The great (law breaking criminal) Issa was informed about it way back and did nothing about it
So why not?
Don't fret there are more stuff the No Waste tax payers republican party can waste money on.
Hitler used a lot of useful idiots like you in the 1930's.

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#4 Jul 8, 2013
How? Please explain.

I'm not anti-Jew, I love my Jewish brothers and sisters.

I'm not anti-blacks and minorities

I'm not against the disable

I'm not for social Darwinism

I'm not for the Aryan bull shyt

I'm not anti-woman

I believe it should be "WE" as a nation

Not us or them

Wait..... did you mean I would have been used as in

The OVENS!!!

If that is what you mean .... You would be right!!

Every thing that hitler believed (maybe not anti jew) is now the beliefs of what party?

If you said tea party you would be right!!!

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#5 Jul 8, 2013
catfish59 wrote:
How? Please explain.
I'm not anti-Jew, I love my Jewish brothers and sisters.
I'm not anti-blacks and minorities
I'm not against the disable
I'm not for social Darwinism
I'm not for the Aryan bull shyt
I'm not anti-woman
I believe it should be "WE" as a nation
Not us or them
Wait..... did you mean I would have been used as in
The OVENS!!!
If that is what you mean .... You would be right!!
Every thing that hitler believed (maybe not anti jew) is now the beliefs of what party?
If you said tea party you would be right!!!
many otherwise honest and good German propelled Hitler and overlooked his many obvious shortcomings because he kept his promise and boosted the economy and provided jobs for the people.

Obama supporters love the government freebees, unfortunately they're not as interested in jobs. That's where the analogy with the German people breaks down.

Same principle through. You have your head so far up Obama's rectum waiting on the next freebee, you're willing to follow him over the cliffs of common since.
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#7 Jul 8, 2013
I am waiting on Harry Reid to explain how he knew so much about Mitt Romney's tax status during the last election.

Did the IRS give Mitt Romney’s tax returns to Harry Reid?

12:29 AM 05/16/2013
Alex Pappas

WASHINGTON — During the 2012 presidential campaign, Harry Reid claimed to have intimate knowledge of what was secretly inside Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s tax returns.

As President Obama’s campaign slammed Romney nearly every day for not releasing more tax returns, the Senate majority leader repeatedly made the unsubstantiated claim that, at one point in his life, Romney hadn’t paid taxes for almost a decade.

He even did so from the floor of the U.S. Senate.

“The word’s out that he hasn’t paid any taxes for 10 years,” the Nevada Democrat claimed on the floor in August.“Let him prove that he has paid taxes, because he hasn’t.”

It made big news at the time, but Reid’s old accusations are popping back up now that it’s been revealed that the IRS has been targeting conservative groups and in some cases, reportedly leaking their tax information.

Knowing that, could someone at the IRS have leaked Romney’s tax information to Reid? At the time, Reid claimed he learned of Romney’s tax background from someone who had once been an investor in Romney’s firm, though he wouldn’t say who.

Since the new IRS scandal broke, Republicans have found the question of who Reid got his information from — and from where — intriguing.

“We all wondered how Harry Reid had Mitt Romney’s taxes,” Republican National Committee spokeswoman Kirsten Kukowski told The Daily Caller.“The question is, will he call for a full investigation into the IRS?”

On Tuesday, Reid took a hard line against the IRS.“What the IRS did, of course, was inexcusable,” he said.

After this story was published Thursday, Reid spokesman Adam Jentleson told TheDC:“The answer to your question is no, the IRS did not leak Romney’s tax returns to Senator Reid.”

Here’s how Reid’s accusations went down last year: In an interview with The Huffington Post, Reid claimed he had been called by someone who had invested in Romney’s former firm, Bain Capital. That person said Romney didn’t pay taxes for 10 years.

“He didn’t pay taxes for 10 years! Now, do I know that that’s true? Well, I’m not certain,” Reid told the liberal news outlet.“But obviously he can’t release those tax returns. How would it look?”

Romney’s campaign denied Reid’s accusations, eventually releasing a summary of the former Massachusetts governor’s taxes that — according to Romney staffers — showed he paid taxes over the last 20 years.

But Reid continued to argue that Romney’s tax returns included something that the Republican didn’t want everyone to see.

“He’s hiding something,” Reid said on a conference call.“He’s hiding something! It is so evident he’s hiding something!”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/16/did-the-irs...

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#8 Jul 8, 2013
I bet this is the reason.

So why not release a nice even five years of tax data? Perhaps because of something that happened in 2009.

Something like this:

Wealthy U.S. taxpayers, concerned about an Internal Revenue Service crackdown on the use of secret overseas bank accounts as tax havens, are rushing to meet a Thursday deadline to disclose those accounts or face possible criminal prosecution. The concern was triggered this summer when Switzerland's largest bank, caught up in an international tax evasion dispute, said it would disclose the names of more than 4,000 of its U.S. account holders.

The decision shattered a long-held belief that Swiss banks would guard the identities of its American customers as carefully as they did their money, and it raised concern that other international tax havens might be next. Under an amnesty program, the IRS is allowing taxpayers to avoid prosecution for having failed to report their overseas accounts. As a result, tax attorneys across the nation have been besieged by wealthy clients who are lining up to apply even though they will still face big financial penalties.

Romney might well have thought in 2007 and 2008 that there was nothing to fear about a non-disclosed offshore account he'd set up years earlier precisely because it wasn't disclosed. But then came the settlement and the rush of non-disclosers to apply for the amnesty. Failing to apply for the amnesty and then getting charged by the IRS would have been both financially and politically disastrous. So amnesty it was. But even though the amnesty would eliminate any legal or financial liability for past acts, it would hardly eliminate suicidal, politically.

He should thank his Mormon brother for not telling all he knew. The church is big but not in their circle of the church.


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#9 Jul 8, 2013
So where does this story you posted list ANY of the information that Harry Reid disclosed about Mitt Romney?

Just because the story talks about mormons and Romney is a mormon dont explain the Harry Reid story.

If that were so we could accuse Obama of worldwide terrorism because his brothers in the muslim faith have carried out terrorist attacks all over the world.

Harry Reid got info from the IRS. You know it and I know it.
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Florissant, MO

#10 Jul 8, 2013
So while we are talking about offshore accounts, you forgot to mention the offshore accounts that Obama himself had investments in. I am sure it just slipped the minds of you Obama worshipers:

Trouble in paradise: Obama has offshore investments in Cayman Islands

posted at 1:20 pm on October 18, 2012 by Howard Portnoy

It appears that Mitt Romney is not the only candidate for president with investments in the Cayman Islands. Another candidate has investments offshore in that island paradise as well. His initials are B.O., as in body odor.

Politifact, one of the left’s favorite sources of campaign dirt, confirms that “investments made by managers of the Illinois pension fund in which Obama has an account” does indeed have holdings in the Cayman Islands.

The site notes that “one of the tense moments in the second presidential debate” centered on Romney’s claim that the president invests in foreign firms.“Mr. President,” Romney asked,“have you looked at your pension? Have you looked at your pension?” Obama’s response—“You know, I don’t look at my pension. It’s not as big as yours so it doesn’t take as long”—earned appreciative cackles from the audience and generated a round of high fives and applause among “impartial” liberal “journalists” back in the spin room.

Romney followed up with the advice to Obama that you “have investments outside the United States” including “investments through a Caymans trust”—which, in fact, is true.

What makes the revelation damning for the Obama camp is their repeated insinuations that Romney’s “foreign investments” are selfish and un-American. Politifact reminds the reader of a July 2012 ad by the Obama campaign lambasting Romney for his millions in the Cayman Islands, among other “tax havens.”

If there is solace to be taken in Obama’s bitter acceptance of the truth that he is as selfish and un-American as Romney, it is the fact that nothing illegal or improper about offshore investments made through a blind trust.

This revelation is not the first of Obama’s hypocrisy in calling the kettle black. As noted in this space in May:


[T]he bulk of the Obamas’ admittedly brief portfolio is invested in Chicago-based Northern Trust Corporation, a firm that has conducted itself in a manner that some might call ‘vampire-like.’ In 2003, the company, which was a trustee of Enron’s 401(k) retirement plan, was accused of having knowingly failed to prevent employees’ pensions from evaporating. A federal judge cleared the way for a lawsuit against Enron and Northern Trust for ‘misleading company employees by encouraging and in some cases requiring them to hold Enron stock in their retirement accounts, at a time when the stock price plummeted from an artificially inflated level.’ In the case, which commanded national attention, several former Enron executives were charged with manipulating the company’s financial results, ultimately driving it into bankruptcy.[Obama's tax return for 2011 is here.]

Another discomfiting fact that the Obama campaign would rather not publicize is his having accepted $16 million in Wall Street campaign contributions, an amount that is five times greater than the $2.7 million received from the same source by George W. Bush.

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/10/...

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#11 Jul 8, 2013
guest wrote:
I am waiting on Harry Reid to explain how he knew so much about Mitt Romney's tax status during the last election.
Did the IRS give Mitt Romney’s tax returns to Harry Reid?
12:29 AM 05/16/2013
Alex Pappas
WASHINGTON — During the 2012 presidential campaign, Harry Reid claimed to have intimate knowledge of what was secretly inside Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s tax returns.
As President Obama’s campaign slammed Romney nearly every day for not releasing more tax returns, the Senate majority leader repeatedly made the unsubstantiated claim that, at one point in his life, Romney hadn’t paid taxes for almost a decade.
He even did so from the floor of the U.S. Senate.
“The word’s out that he hasn’t paid any taxes for 10 years,” the Nevada Democrat claimed on the floor in August.“Let him prove that he has paid taxes, because he hasn’t.”
It made big news at the time, but Reid’s old accusations are popping back up now that it’s been revealed that the IRS has been targeting conservative groups and in some cases, reportedly leaking their tax information.
Knowing that, could someone at the IRS have leaked Romney’s tax information to Reid? At the time, Reid claimed he learned of Romney’s tax background from someone who had once been an investor in Romney’s firm, though he wouldn’t say who.
Since the new IRS scandal broke, Republicans have found the question of who Reid got his information from — and from where — intriguing.
“We all wondered how Harry Reid had Mitt Romney’s taxes,” Republican National Committee spokeswoman Kirsten Kukowski told The Daily Caller.“The question is, will he call for a full investigation into the IRS?”
On Tuesday, Reid took a hard line against the IRS.“What the IRS did, of course, was inexcusable,” he said.
After this story was published Thursday, Reid spokesman Adam Jentleson told TheDC:“The answer to your question is no, the IRS did not leak Romney’s tax returns to Senator Reid.”
Here’s how Reid’s accusations went down last year: In an interview with The Huffington Post, Reid claimed he had been called by someone who had invested in Romney’s former firm, Bain Capital. That person said Romney didn’t pay taxes for 10 years.
“He didn’t pay taxes for 10 years! Now, do I know that that’s true? Well, I’m not certain,” Reid told the liberal news outlet.“But obviously he can’t release those tax returns. How would it look?”
Romney’s campaign denied Reid’s accusations, eventually releasing a summary of the former Massachusetts governor’s taxes that — according to Romney staffers — showed he paid taxes over the last 20 years.
But Reid continued to argue that Romney’s tax returns included something that the Republican didn’t want everyone to see.
“He’s hiding something,” Reid said on a conference call.“He’s hiding something! It is so evident he’s hiding something!”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/16/did-the-irs...
Harry Reid used his power and position to gain access to Romney's financial and tax records.

He used that information to try and force Romney to release more tax information than required by law.

He knew even if nothing illegal was found, democrats could always find embarrassing details to continually throw in Romney's face right up until election day. That's how democrats operate.

Reid is a sorry piece of trash elitist who has used his Senate office to go from middle class to millionaire status. He's in the pocket of the Vegas organized crime bosses.

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#12 Jul 8, 2013
Obama has done the same kind of rise to millionaire status as Harry Reid. Power corrupts.

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#13 Jul 8, 2013
guest wrote:
So where does this story you posted list ANY of the information that Harry Reid disclosed about Mitt Romney?
Just because the story talks about mormons and Romney is a mormon dont explain the Harry Reid story.
If that were so we could accuse Obama of worldwide terrorism because his brothers in the muslim faith have carried out terrorist attacks all over the world.
Harry Reid got info from the IRS. You know it and I know it.
Google it. Romney and the 2009 amnesty.

Ya'll need to catch up on stuff.

The article didn't say anything about Mormonism

I did.

I have family members who are Mormons. It's a church of many levels and secrets. Google that too.

Seriously, you need to be careful calling him a muslim.

Do you people not know the bible either.

Matt. 10:32 " Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men I will confess him before my Father who is in Heaven."

I have heard him confess that Jesus is his Lord and Savoir.

God will NOT be mocked.

Do you think those like John Mccain and his co-horts who are backing the muslim brotherhood.... a muslim.




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#14 Jul 8, 2013
guest wrote:
So while we are talking about offshore accounts, you forgot to mention the offshore accounts that Obama himself had investments in. I am sure it just slipped the minds of you Obama worshipers:
Trouble in paradise: Obama has offshore investments in Cayman Islands
posted at 1:20 pm on October 18, 2012 by Howard Portnoy
It appears that Mitt Romney is not the only candidate for president with investments in the Cayman Islands. Another candidate has investments offshore in that island paradise as well. His initials are B.O., as in body odor.
Politifact, one of the left’s favorite sources of campaign dirt, confirms that “investments made by managers of the Illinois pension fund in which Obama has an account” does indeed have holdings in the Cayman Islands.
The site notes that “one of the tense moments in the second presidential debate” centered on Romney’s claim that the president invests in foreign firms.“Mr. President,” Romney asked,“have you looked at your pension? Have you looked at your pension?” Obama’s response—“You know, I don’t look at my pension. It’s not as big as yours so it doesn’t take as long”—earned appreciative cackles from the audience and generated a round of high fives and applause among “impartial” liberal “journalists” back in the spin room.
Romney followed up with the advice to Obama that you “have investments outside the United States” including “investments through a Caymans trust”—which, in fact, is true.
What makes the revelation damning for the Obama camp is their repeated insinuations that Romney’s “foreign investments” are selfish and un-American. Politifact reminds the reader of a July 2012 ad by the Obama campaign lambasting Romney for his millions in the Cayman Islands, among other “tax havens.”
If there is solace to be taken in Obama’s bitter acceptance of the truth that he is as selfish and un-American as Romney, it is the fact that nothing illegal or improper about offshore investments made through a blind trust.
This revelation is not the first of Obama’s hypocrisy in calling the kettle black. As noted in this space in May:
[T]he bulk of the Obamas’ admittedly brief portfolio is invested in Chicago-based Northern Trust Corporation, a firm that has conducted itself in a manner that some might call ‘vampire-like.’ In 2003, the company, which was a trustee of Enron’s 401(k) retirement plan, was accused of having knowingly failed to prevent employees’ pensions from evaporating. A federal judge cleared the way for a lawsuit against Enron and Northern Trust for ‘misleading company employees by encouraging and in some cases requiring them to hold Enron stock in their retirement accounts, at a time when the stock price plummeted from an artificially inflated level.’ In the case, which commanded national attention, several former Enron executives were charged with manipulating the company’s financial results, ultimately driving it into bankruptcy.[Obama's tax return for 2011 is here.]
Another discomfiting fact that the Obama campaign would rather not publicize is his having accepted $16 million in Wall Street campaign contributions, an amount that is five times greater than the $2.7 million received from the same source by George W. Bush.
http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2012/10/...
“investments made by managers of the Illinois pension fund in which Obama has an account” does indeed have holdings in the Cayman Islands.

Come on...... Do you not know that millions that have a pension and 401 don't know where it's kept.

Do you not know there's a difference between an invested pension and a private account.

You need to google that too.

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#15 Jul 8, 2013
catfish59 wrote:
<quoted text>
Google it. Romney and the 2009 amnesty.
Ya'll need to catch up on stuff.
The article didn't say anything about Mormonism
I did.
I have family members who are Mormons. It's a church of many levels and secrets. Google that too.
Seriously, you need to be careful calling him a muslim.
Do you people not know the bible either.
Matt. 10:32 " Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men I will confess him before my Father who is in Heaven."
I have heard him confess that Jesus is his Lord and Savoir.
God will NOT be mocked.
Do you think those like John Mccain and his co-horts who are backing the muslim brotherhood.... a muslim.
you need to catch up on stuff.

John McCain and his co-horts don't support the Muslim brotherhood. They are supporting the results of free and fair elections, which More I won.

The down side is, after the election, he granted himself dictatorial powers not responsible to anyone. He took away freedoms from the people, pushed for sharia law and encouraged the murder of Christians.

Obama's Muslim buddy turned out to be a real bad egg.

Now, consider yourself educated.
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#16 Jul 8, 2013
ComradeWinston wrote:
<quoted text>you need to catch up on stuff.
John McCain and his co-horts don't support the Muslim brotherhood. They are supporting the results of free and fair elections, which More I won.
The down side is, after the election, he granted himself dictatorial powers not responsible to anyone. He took away freedoms from the people, pushed for sharia law and encouraged the murder of Christians.
Obama's Muslim buddy turned out to be a real bad egg.
Now, consider yourself educated.
Thanks for education commie.

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#17 Jul 8, 2013
ComradeWinston wrote:
<quoted text>you need to catch up on stuff.
John McCain and his co-horts don't support the Muslim brotherhood. They are supporting the results of free and fair elections, which More I won.
The down side is, after the election, he granted himself dictatorial powers not responsible to anyone. He took away freedoms from the people, pushed for sharia law and encouraged the murder of Christians.
Obama's Muslim buddy turned out to be a real bad egg.
Now, consider yourself educated.
So don't this make you happy.

You're against the brotherhood-right?

Poor McCain his co-horts are so upset the brotherhood is out he wants to stop all aid...right now!

Shouldn't the co-horts be happy the murdering of Christians

(muslims) are out of power.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/339590...

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#18 Jul 8, 2013
catfish59 wrote:
How? Please explain.
I'm not anti-Jew, I love my Jewish brothers and sisters.
I'm not anti-blacks and minorities
I'm not against the disable
I'm not for social Darwinism
I'm not for the Aryan bull shyt
I'm not anti-woman
I believe it should be "WE" as a nation
Not us or them
Wait..... did you mean I would have been used as in
The OVENS!!!
If that is what you mean .... You would be right!!
Every thing that hitler believed (maybe not anti jew) is now the beliefs of what party?
If you said tea party you would be right!!!
Hitler was the brain child of the Tea Party movement actually.

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