DFLers propose $49M windfall for schools

DFLers propose $49M windfall for schools

There are 34 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Mar 19, 2008, titled DFLers propose $49M windfall for schools. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The chairwoman of the Minnesota House Tax Committee on Wednesday proposed leveling the playing field for Minnesota businesses by eliminating tax subsidies that some companies get while lowering the corporate ...

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Pete

Saint Paul, MN

#22 Mar 20, 2008
You call it a windfall, I call it bad for MN. How many more companies will we lose before we lose the DFL.

MAPLEWOOD, Minn.—A troubling sign for Minnesota's economy as 3M Co. announces plans to move a division headquarters from Maplewood to Hong Kong.
The initial move involves only the leadership of 3M's optical systems division. But it could show that the company is broadening its plan to shift its business closer to fast-growing global markets.

3M's display and graphics business manages production of high-tech film used to enhance brightness on flat-panel TV screens and computers. The division generates nearly 20 percent of the company's operating income.

The largest manufacturers of flat-panel products are in Asia.

Executive vice president Mike Kelly of 3M Display and Graphics says 3M's ability to respond to panel customers more quickly in "this fast-paced market" will improve because of the move.

It's the first 3M division to move its headquarters outside the U.S. The division now employs about 300 people in Maplewood, the site of 3M's corporate headquarters.

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Information from: St. Paul Pioneer Press, http://www.twincities.com
Education MN

Cottage Grove, MN

#23 Mar 20, 2008
angered by ignorance wrote:
Actually, schools DID have enough money, but the money from the state has not kept up with inflation. As a result, you, the taxpayer, becomes even more fiscally responsible as levys and bonds sprung out all over the state this November. After the referenda, many districts face grave budget cuts including closing schools, having much larger class sizes, and cutting services in order to enrich the children's learning. If schools were wasting money on education, you'd see people dropping out of law school to get a license and strike it rich. Instead, you see falling acheivement, higher drop out rates, and teachers like me working night jobs, summer jobs, and weekend jobs just trying to make ends meet!
Don't blame me, blame Education MN. They lobby the legislature to get new programs in the schools, in turn having to hire more of their cronies ad an administrator level. If Education MN Allowed their teachers to get paid better, and stopped promoting programs seeking to victimize every kid in school, teachers might actually be able to accomplish something.

Sorry you have to work a summer job (so do the rest of us) but, if Education MN sought to support vouchers, and laws holding parents accountable for playnign their role in raising their children, you'd be in a different position.

Don't fall for the propaganda your "leaders" seel you, they're just trying to get more revenue to raise their own. Think about all those union dues you had to fork over to pay for all the ads during the HS tournaments on TV. I'd bet your household could have used that money, don't ya think?

Since: Feb 08

Crookston, MN

#24 Mar 20, 2008
Okay, tell me why it cost 7500 per student in Finland, where the 15 year olds are number one in math and science whereas it cost 8700 per student here and we rank 23rd out of 57 countries. We want to give them more cash? For what so that 35 year teacher can upgrade his suv even though his lesson plans are about 35 yrs. old as well? Give me a break!
Keith

Palo Alto, CA

#25 Mar 20, 2008
Teachers are paid pretty good for a part time job. Wish I had summers off, spring break, easter break, christmas break, ect.
MR DIVERSITY

Monroe, LA

#26 Mar 20, 2008
Keith wrote:
Teachers are paid pretty good for a part time job. Wish I had summers off, spring break, easter break, christmas break, ect.
evildoer! it's not "Christmas" and "Waster" ! didn't you get the memo?

now say it: "winter break", "spring break"

get with the program ,comrade.
Teacher

Saint Paul, MN

#27 Mar 20, 2008
Als Faken wrote:
If the School Teachers Union ("Education" Minnesota) would just tell us how much it will cost to have the educators succeed at actually turning out educated children, I'll be willing to pay. But why give them $49M? I ask. It will just get wasted, and no one will learn any more than they do now.
DFL'ers shuld have paid attention in business class.
If you remember... the task force tried to tell you. But oh yes, borrow and spend TPaw shut them down...
Teacher

Saint Paul, MN

#28 Mar 20, 2008
Its my money wrote:
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And let's end the biggest redistribution program of all also... WELFARE.
Do you mean CORPORATE welfare? Oh heaven forbid, aren't all businesses perfect, good, and the only ones that can save us? By the way, JOBZ brough IN businesses that compete with Minnesota businesses.
Teacher

Saint Paul, MN

#29 Mar 20, 2008
mimaps wrote:
Okay, tell me why it cost 7500 per student in Finland, where the 15 year olds are number one in math and science whereas it cost 8700 per student here and we rank 23rd out of 57 countries. We want to give them more cash? For what so that 35 year teacher can upgrade his suv even though his lesson plans are about 35 yrs. old as well? Give me a break!
Does Finland education ALL students? Are teachers here as valued and respected as teachers in Finland? General education revenue in MN is about $4600 per student. There are other funding streams based on LOCAL needs (sparsity, poverty etc).
Teacher

Saint Paul, MN

#30 Mar 20, 2008
Keith wrote:
Teachers are paid pretty good for a part time job. Wish I had summers off, spring break, easter break, christmas break, ect.
Hellooooooo when I worked as a teacher, my contract was basically a daily rate. No work no pay. No paid vacation, no paid holidays etc. My contract was from mid August until mid June. Add 10 holidays and 2 weeks for vacation that leaves me with one month to continue my education (as required for all teachers by the state - and of course at my own expense).

Don't come back with the "7" hours a day crap. I was at school 8+ hours a day and sometimes weekends and I always took work home. Sorry no overtime, comp time or flex time.
Fascist DFLers

Saint Paul, MN

#31 Mar 21, 2008
Teacher wrote:
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Hellooooooo when I worked as a teacher, my contract was basically a daily rate. No work no pay. No paid vacation, no paid holidays etc. My contract was from mid August until mid June. Add 10 holidays and 2 weeks for vacation that leaves me with one month to continue my education (as required for all teachers by the state - and of course at my own expense).
Don't come back with the "7" hours a day crap. I was at school 8+ hours a day and sometimes weekends and I always took work home. Sorry no overtime, comp time or flex time.
I very sad when even teachers have to spread lies. Here in St. Paul we spend $16,500 per pupil per year. They are failing half of them and it is an outrage. They are also $10 million in the hole again. It will never end until we break the Teachers Union. They are out for themselves only and the kids are being left behind.
angered by ignorance

Saint Paul, MN

#32 Mar 21, 2008
I once told someone "True teachers have the purest intentions. We work far more hours for far fewer wages and spend our time outside of school fighting to keep the opportunities for our students. Teaching a profession where you know people are not in it for the money, but are in it for the betterment of the world."

The school district I work in does not receive anywhere near that. I believe we receive less than $1,000 per pupil and I would be interested in learning your source for the figures you have for St. Paul.

Teacher is not lying. Even though you may spend over 8 hours a day at school, you are also doing planning at home many times too. If you noted what I said earlier, many teachers have to work summer jobs to make ends meet.

Also, due to budget cuts, I just found out this morning that I will be cut this year. If you know so much about too much money being paid for too small a result, please tell me how bigger class sizes and less attention paid to the individual learner is going to make our children more successful. I'm interested to hear your ideas since we teachers are apparently lying and out there for ourselves.
Myself

Cottage Grove, MN

#33 Mar 22, 2008
Does anyone else recall Margaret Anderson Kehilor promising to make SPENDING CUTS after she and her pals rammed multiple tax increases down our throats in the transportation bill.

I have yet to see any proposals or bills that cut any spending and I'm getting pissed.

Cut something or we will cut YOU.
jw in the grove

Saint Paul, MN

#34 Mar 22, 2008
dist 883 cottage grve/woodbury 7.5 %increase in revenue but 25%increase in spending, i believe that is above the rate of inflation .www.cusd200.org/board_of_educ ation/budgets/07-08/08BUDO &MFUND.pdf
Alan

Minneapolis, MN

#35 Mar 22, 2008
Jesse Ventura gave Education Minnesota every penny they wanted and they still complained and asked for more. Education Minnesota needs as overhaul. If they quit dumping money into the union and political lobbying our children would be better off.

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