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There are 33 comments on the Gazette Journal story from Oct 2, 2009, titled images/3 altemus meeting.jpg. In it, Gazette Journal reports that:

York District Supervisor Teresa Altemus held what she called a town hall forum Thursday night at the Abingdon Ruritan Club, Bena, to "clear the air" and "set the record straight." During Thursday's meeting, Altemus used much of the same tone as she did in her interview with the Gazette-Journal that was published June 25.

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Think about it

Washington, DC

#1 Oct 3, 2009
I wasn't sure what she was doing more of by telling this fairy tale, trying to convince others or herself. I guess she is relying on the old adage, if you say a lie enough, it may become the truth.

“Resistance is futile”

Since: Jul 08

Military brat, from all over

#2 Oct 3, 2009
I believe that she truly believes what she did was right. And for cleaning up the county, they may have been. But, the way she did it, by holding secret meetings out of the view of the public, and without all board members present, was wrong. I won't go so far as to compare her with tyrants like Hitler or Stalin, all she did was fire a few people not killed millions, but the way she went about doing what she did is the same method used by many tyrants. The way our government was set up is cumbersome and slow, but it is honest (not the politicians), and generally comes up with the best solutions. What she did is not the way she should have done it, and I fear that, if given the chance, she will do it again. Looking at her track record, she sued the school board and won a much larger sum than she should have because she missed work, she purposefully and vindictively went after the 40 petitioners, and she expects the tax payers to pay her legal bills. Was it fair what happened to her? maybe, maybe not, but life ain't fair, and to expect us taxpayers to pay her legal bills (keep in mind, she had other choices available for attorneys, and yet she went with some of the most expensive) is wrong for any politician to do if they expect to be re-elected.
Think about it

United States

#3 Oct 3, 2009
I don't doubt for one minute that she believes in what she has done. And she is right, the county administrator and the county attorney serve at the pleasure of the Board. And even with a majority she held after the election, I don't feel she did anything wrong in the planning of that future. But you are right, she kept the other members of the board in the dark. And the firings were handled all wrong. The fact she threatened both men with arrest if they came back before 8 AM the next morning, was just plain wrong. She was wrong to hire a friend with no experience as the interim county administrator. She was wrong to have that friend intimidate other county employees into illegal firings or threats of firings to do bidding of a campign contributor. She was wrong for seeking more control over a school board she was suing.

And that's just what the public knows. I'm still waiting to hear her explaination about the meeting with county staff members the morning after the firings and what went on in that meeting. I'd like to know what she told those employees. And I would have loved to hear about Lacy Smith's actions during his three weeks as Interim County Administrator.

There is a lot that happened that hasn't come out.
Fly on the Wall

Gloucester, VA

#4 Oct 3, 2009
Think about it wrote:
I don't doubt for one minute that she believes in what she has done. And she is right, the county administrator and the county attorney serve at the pleasure of the Board. And even with a majority she held after the election, I don't feel she did anything wrong in the planning of that future. But you are right, she kept the other members of the board in the dark. And the firings were handled all wrong. The fact she threatened both men with arrest if they came back before 8 AM the next morning, was just plain wrong. She was wrong to hire a friend with no experience as the interim county administrator. She was wrong to have that friend intimidate other county employees into illegal firings or threats of firings to do bidding of a campign contributor. She was wrong for seeking more control over a school board she was suing.
And that's just what the public knows. I'm still waiting to hear her explaination about the meeting with county staff members the morning after the firings and what went on in that meeting. I'd like to know what she told those employees. And I would have loved to hear about Lacy Smith's actions during his three weeks as Interim County Administrator.
There is a lot that happened that hasn't come out.
Don't know all that went on that day, but do know that she walked into that staff meeting and told them that "she was now in charge" and they could refer to her as Madame Chair.... I think that explains a lot of her future actions. We can all fill in the blanks.
Carolyn

Spring Hope, NC

#5 Oct 3, 2009
Oh please, you can't honestly think what she did was right! Let's see.

1. She cheated her way into an officer's position at NaCO
2. She acted outside of public scrutinty with midnight meetings while under allegiance to the people she served. YES, the people SHE SERVED, not while under the AUTHORITARIAN position of having people who served her
3. Suing a public body who she absolutely had a conflict of interest with.

You don't have to be from Gloucester to see the corruption in this scenario.

Neighbors must stand up for each other and I intend to do this. This is one Republican who doesn't support corruption even it occurs within my own party.
what if

Gloucester, VA

#6 Oct 3, 2009
Carolyn wrote:
Oh please, you can't honestly think what she did was right! Let's see.
1. She cheated her way into an officer's position at NaCO
2. She acted outside of public scrutinty with midnight meetings while under allegiance to the people she served. YES, the people SHE SERVED, not while under the AUTHORITARIAN position of having people who served her
3. Suing a public body who she absolutely had a conflict of interest with.
You don't have to be from Gloucester to see the corruption in this scenario.
Neighbors must stand up for each other and I intend to do this. This is one Republican who doesn't support corruption even it occurs within my own party.
don't you wish you could find such a person, to fight for you on the board,,too bad she's against the likes of you and yours,,,don't forget all tax records are online,,pay your fair share, don't get caught, paying less, because of your politics....
Think about it

United States

#7 Oct 4, 2009
what if wrote:
<quoted text>don't you wish you could find such a person, to fight for you on the board,,too bad she's against the likes of you and yours,,,don't forget all tax records are online,,pay your fair share, don't get caught, paying less, because of your politics....
In the political arena, I don't want someone who cheats, conducts secret deals, belittles those people to show others who's in charge, and files frivilous lawsuits for her own betterment.

If the suit would have been fine with me if it was just for the money she felt she was owed, I honestly wouldn't have had a problem with it, but it was the $750,000 in punitive damages that got to me. The taxpayers of Gloucester would have had to pay for that. That shows what kind of person she is. She wants to exact revenge on anyone who crossed her. And if she doesn't want to be crossed, she should have never gone into politics.
Jimbob

United States

#8 Oct 4, 2009
Carolyn wrote:
Oh please, you can't honestly think what she did was right! Let's see.
1. She cheated her way into an officer's position at NaCO
2. She acted outside of public scrutinty with midnight meetings while under allegiance to the people she served. YES, the people SHE SERVED, not while under the AUTHORITARIAN position of having people who served her
3. Suing a public body who she absolutely had a conflict of interest with.
You don't have to be from Gloucester to see the corruption in this scenario.
Neighbors must stand up for each other and I intend to do this. This is one Republican who doesn't support corruption even it occurs within my own party.
Girl, you will be held accountable for propagating lies,unless you know it's true you need to keep it to yourself, you start out lying on number one, cuz i can see you ain't read nothin just from that one! May your private parts be the first to burn in car accident!
Think about it

Franklin, OH

#9 Oct 4, 2009
There goes bill again, making idle threats and attacking the poster and not the post. If he had anything that could disprove what Carolyn said, he would use it, but he doesn't and so he does what he does best....attack the poster without any facts.
I Saw It Too

Gloucester, VA

#10 Oct 5, 2009
I noticed that these forums have gotten unusually quiet lately, and I wondered why that was since the election is fast aproaching. I guess people are tired of being attacked for expressing their opinion and trying to have a lively discusion. What a shame that it has come to this! So many of the "regulars" seem to have gone away.
Think about it

Methuen, MA

#11 Oct 5, 2009
Or maybe the regulars got tired of being accused of lying, not being open to certain posters opinions, and threatened with various insults.

I'm open to opinions, but when I see something posted, that I know not to be true, I won't listen, because if they poster can't start off with the truth, I won't listen to the rest of their opinion.

The funny thing is some regulars must use multiple names to give the appearance of a large following. Where as most regulars, whether they agree or not, use the same name.

Thus, he who complains the loudest is the most guilty.
witch hunt

United States

#12 Oct 5, 2009
Think about it wrote:
Or maybe the regulars got tired of being accused of lying, not being open to certain posters opinions, and threatened with various insults.
I'm open to opinions, but when I see something posted, that I know not to be true, I won't listen, because if they poster can't start off with the truth, I won't listen to the rest of their opinion.
The funny thing is some regulars must use multiple names to give the appearance of a large following. Where as most regulars, whether they agree or not, use the same name.
Thus, he who complains the loudest is the most guilty.
A Laughable post. It is you who complains loudest and longest about those who disagree with your point of view. So, what does that make you?
Carolyn

Spring Hope, NC

#13 Oct 5, 2009
what if wrote:
<quoted text>don't you wish you could find such a person, to fight for you on the board,,too bad she's against the likes of you and yours,,,don't forget all tax records are online,,pay your fair share, don't get caught, paying less, because of your politics....
My taxes are paid, only not in Gloucester as I don't live there. I am not on your board nor have I ever been. I simply hate deception in government and became familiar with Mrs. Altemus through NaCO. After her shameful acceptance of the lineup of NaCO president I decided to read up on Gloucester to see how their BOS was functioning. Whoa!!!!! Imagine my LACK of surprise when I read about her midnight adventure. It all fits into a pattern.

No proof???
http://www.county.org/resources/library/count...

You might want to be careful about your accusations.

Good Luck Gloucester in November. I sent a very small donation to Mr. Borden just to feel like I have in some way had a part in the election even though I really am in NC.
ThanksCarolyn

Hayes, VA

#14 Oct 6, 2009
The article you sent us to was excellent at telling exactly what happened. When TA was asked soon after the vote, "You aren't going to let this happen, are you? You are going to admit what happened?," she said, "Why would I? I won."
Honesty? Honor? Lying? Right and wrong?
A Friend

Mechanicsville, MD

#15 Oct 6, 2009
Carolyn wrote:
<quoted text>My taxes are paid, only not in Gloucester as I don't live there. I am not on your board nor have I ever been. I simply hate deception in government and became familiar with Mrs. Altemus through NaCO. After her shameful acceptance of the lineup of NaCO president I decided to read up on Gloucester to see how their BOS was functioning. Whoa!!!!! Imagine my LACK of surprise when I read about her midnight adventure. It all fits into a pattern.
No proof???
http://www.county.org/resources/library/count...
You might want to be careful about your accusations.
Good Luck Gloucester in November. I sent a very small donation to Mr. Borden just to feel like I have in some way had a part in the election even though I really am in NC.
We love Snow Hill, N.C. and you are right on the target! As is Think About It. Some from out of state have done the same,sending some funding. We have to remember, it all starts at a local level,
and many wonder why O was elected. Get the bad apples out of office, every where. Again, we have family in Kinston, and go right through Snow Hill.
Think about it

Alexandria, VA

#16 Oct 6, 2009
witch hunt wrote:
<quoted text>
A Laughable post. It is you who complains loudest and longest about those who disagree with your point of view. So, what does that make you?
It makes me someone who has witnessed all the highjinx this board had done and all the wrongs they have perpetrated on this county. Unlike someone like you, who openly admits they don't live here and can only judge based on what he has read. Live it, then you can talk.
Think about it

Alexandria, VA

#17 Oct 6, 2009
Carolyn wrote:
<quoted text>My taxes are paid, only not in Gloucester as I don't live there. I am not on your board nor have I ever been. I simply hate deception in government and became familiar with Mrs. Altemus through NaCO. After her shameful acceptance of the lineup of NaCO president I decided to read up on Gloucester to see how their BOS was functioning. Whoa!!!!! Imagine my LACK of surprise when I read about her midnight adventure. It all fits into a pattern.
No proof???
http://www.county.org/resources/library/count...
You might want to be careful about your accusations.
Good Luck Gloucester in November. I sent a very small donation to Mr. Borden just to feel like I have in some way had a part in the election even though I really am in NC.
Thank you for that link. While I had read snippets of what happened at the NACO convention, I had not read something so in dept as that article. I do find it ironic, that Altemus had cause a huge controversy with someone named Whitley....first at NACO with her ill gotten election of NACO second vice president over Glen Whitley and her actions on Jan.2/3 2008 with the ouster of long time county administrator William Whitley.
Carolyn

Virginia Beach, VA

#18 Oct 6, 2009
Think about it wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for that link. While I had read snippets of what happened at the NACO convention, I had not read something so in dept as that article. I do find it ironic, that Altemus had cause a huge controversy with someone named Whitley....first at NACO with her ill gotten election of NACO second vice president over Glen Whitley and her actions on Jan.2/3 2008 with the ouster of long time county administrator William Whitley.
I hope everyone understands that I am not taking a stand against William Whitely. He may or may not be an innocent victim. My only opposition as an outsider is against Teresa Altemus. I did find it ironic that similiar names appeared in a related candidates history.

I also want to add that I am not from Snow Hill, I am from Camden, a border state county to VA. I consider VA my second home. Norfolk, Chesaepaeke, and Virginia Beach are my back yards. As a matter of fact, I actually am in VA Beach at this time of commenting.
Carolyn

Gloucester, VA

#19 Oct 7, 2009
I am surprised, I actually met Bill Whitely this weekend. He's a little heavier than I expected. I'm not sure I agree with his opinions, actually I think he's a bit stuck up. I was expecting a bit more of a presence, and less airs, but it was interesting.
Fly on the Wall

Gloucester, VA

#20 Oct 7, 2009
Carolyn wrote:
I am surprised, I actually met Bill Whitely this weekend. He's a little heavier than I expected. I'm not sure I agree with his opinions, actually I think he's a bit stuck up. I was expecting a bit more of a presence, and less airs, but it was interesting.
Regardless of anyone's opinion of Mr. Whitley, this really isn't about him. It's about how he and other employees were treated by Altemus and her crew... When you have done nothing wrong (other than maybe not agreeing with them) any normal person in government and business would not threaten longtime employees with arrest if they put a foot on County property, have deputies stationed at their offices the next morning, and treat them like criminals in the name of "good professional practises" If you are actually part of NACO, I would imagine you would like to know that Ms. Altemus stated that she called folks in the upper levels of NACO for advice on how to properly remove these two men... supposedly they recommended the actions that she took that evening. Would love to see where that is stated in NACO's information!

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