Montana Poll: Obama leading Clinton

Montana Poll: Obama leading Clinton

There are 10 comments on the Montana Standard story from May 29, 2008, titled Montana Poll: Obama leading Clinton. In it, Montana Standard reports that:

Barack Obama has grabbed a big lead over Hillary Clinton in Montana's June 3 Democratic presidential primary, a Lee Newspapers poll shows.

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Since: Feb 08

United States

#1 May 30, 2008
I read the Iowa Independent and enjoy it’s journalistic effort. One thing thing that they have been very good at following is the delegate math in the presidential race. However, Iowa does have a dog in this hunt. The Independent reflects that desire to remain first National Caucus.

http://www.iowaindependent.com/showDiary.do...

The argument over uncommitted MI voters is furious.

http://www.iowaindependent.com/showDiary.do...

You can see that crossovers are part of the problem.

Add to the fact that states like Iowa are very close to a tie in possible delegates, and places like Guam are currently tied with one uncommitted delegate. It seem perfectly right that this is a serious fight that must be resolved. The DNC rules have not been adequate to the task.

Obama took his name off in Michigan. His claim that Florida votes shouldn’t be counted is specious. It was a republican state majority that voted for the change. Name recognition problems would have applied to him at the beginning of the race, no matter how hard he campaigned. In fact, he did have national ads which were distributed across state lines into Florida and were deemed legal.

Since: Feb 08

United States

#2 May 31, 2008
Cardinal George weighs in on Pfleger flap
Priest agrees to 'not enter into campaigning' after Clinton remarks

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/c...

Since: Feb 08

United States

#4 May 31, 2008
SAVE US from wrote:
Thought Iraqis were going to pay for their
cumuppance. The oil dividend that was but
another reason to cover a misadventure that
was designed to protect ME Master race/entity.
Lieberman Wolfowitz Pearle Bushy McCain
and media darlings - a connected wave
to ensure we feel the pain of our masters.
Then the faking and "stifle thyself" on
media for Zion - cannot even discuss the
merits of 150 + nuke buddy. Lieberman
wants a law to prevent certain speech on
Internet.
I didn't need a book by McClellan to figure
what went down from the beginning. Scott Ritter
UN inspector whose knowledge of what came to
be was ridiculed by the forces who wished us
to be "in harmony occupiers " of Arab lands.
Brilliant piece of work - so much so that
even those who have evolved since can't seem to
tell us like it is. The fear of a tribe is
worldwide mighty. Obama will equally be obliged to mouth the party line. Our Masters who are
not fully comfortable with him
I'd venture prefer the McSames. The sheep
mostly bleat on in unison. Jesus'- feed my lambs and feed my sheep words, being so apt.
Catholics should leave that Rev church
based on logic of O'reilly Hannity and
such nuts.
Rules, what rules - don't mess with
Flyntons - Its their way or highway.
RC priest so beautifully captured the
shock 2-fer felt upon discovery of this
God sent black chap from nowhere raining
on her much touted coronation to be.
Hoping and wishing for opponent's demise.
Ruthless! One who would bring nothing
of value to the presidency of free world.
McSame by any other name.
Senator Clinton, in an attempt to argue that the battle for the Democratic nomination is far from over, made an unfortunate comparison to the 1968 race in which Robert F. Kennedy was assassinated. The "Hey, you never know..." comment outraged Obama supporters who criticized Clinton's poor choice of words. The former First Lady later apologized, but that didn't stop folks from buzzing related articles including one from the always popular New York Post.
Regarding the assassination comment:

Clinton references RFK but not OBAMA:

["I was discussing the Democratic primary history and in the course of that discussion mentioned the campaigns of both my husband and Sen.[Robert] Kennedy waged in California in June in 1992 and 1968 and I was referencing those to make the point that we have had nomination primary contests that go into June. That's a historic fact," she said.]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworl...

David Axelrod on Obama and RFK:

[He often likens Obama to Robert F. Kennedy and told The Washington Post, "I thought that if I could help Barack Obama get to Washington, then I would have accomplished something great in my life."[1]]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Axelrod_ (political_consultant)

Axelrod wants to reinforce your perception that Obama is the reincarnation of RFK. Thus spin on safety.(Will this one live and save us?)

Since: Feb 08

United States

#5 May 31, 2008
It’s a gotcha game. Obama gets to say ”I take her at her word.” Axelrod gets to “remind” us that Obama is the reincarnation of RFK. In the mean time, the woman who holds the legacy Kennedy seat in NY gets support from another Kennedy hardly anyone cares. She never mentioned Obama. Axelrod and the NY Post did.

[The New York Post has been criticized since the beginning of Murdoch's ownership for what many consider its lurid headlines, sensationalism, blatant advocacy, and conservative bias. In 1980, the Columbia Journalism Review asserted that "the New York Post is no longer merely a journalistic problem. It is a social problem - a force for evil."]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Post

Since: Feb 08

United States

#6 May 31, 2008
Timing is everything. Why else would a rag like the NY Post print such an egregiously misleading story at the same time Senator Obama is in Florida trying talk to Cuban leaders who have a fondness for the Kennedy name. Here is what the mighty Geoff Earle has to say. Read it all, even the small disclaimers he tosses in:

KENNEDYS FEEL BOBBY-SOCKED
OUTRAGED RFK KIN SAY HILL'S NOW TOAST
By GEOFF EARLE, BRADEN KEIL and ANGELA MONTEFINISE
Hillary Clinton
May 25, 2008
Hill: We Remember When RFK Was Assassinated
Clinton cites the Bobby Kennedy assassination while defending her long-running campaign.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05252008/news/nat...

HILLARY RAISES ASSASSINATION ISSUE
DEFENDS LONG-RUNNING CAMPAIGN
By GEOFF EARLE
may 23, 2008
Hill: We Remember When RFK Was Assassinated
Clinton cites the Bobby Kennedy assassination while defending her long-running campaign.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/05232008/news/nat...

Since: Feb 08

United States

#7 May 31, 2008
He went to Florida, and Puerto Rico to discuss this and yet he dissembled. McCain and Clinton’s views are not the same over the fate of Cuba. since she had said the same before and had every right, who have to wonder over the timing of this “great story”.

Here is what he and/or the Wall Street Journal said:

Obama woos Cuban Americans
In Florida, candidate says he wants to 'turn the page' on relations with island nation
Carol J. Williams, Los Angeles Times
Saturday, May 24, 2008

Obama's Democratic rival, New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who also campaigned in South Florida this week, said nothing about how she would handle the American-Cuban diplomatic conundrum. Her only reference to the Communist-ruled island was in a statement issued on Tuesday's Cuban Independence Day holiday urging Raul Castro "to take an historic step to bring Cuba into the community of democratic nations."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1189377507594...

Since: Feb 08

United States

#8 May 31, 2008
Here is what Clinton said:

Press Release
5/20/2008
Statement by Hillary Clinton on Cuban Independence Day

Today I join with Cuban-Americans and the people of Cuba to celebrate Cuban Independence Day. As we recognize this important occasion, we hope that the winds of change are beginning to stir, and wish for better days ahead.

After nearly 50 years of one-man rule, the new leadership in Cuba faces a choice -- continue with the failed policies of the past that have stifled democratic freedoms and stunted economic growth - or take an historic step to bring Cuba into the community of democratic nations.

Since Raul Castro formally took power, he has announced some measures that have the potential to make improvements in the lives of the Cuban people, including easing regulations on the purchase of computers and cell phones. Unfortunately, these are merely incremental steps in a society that yearns for genuine freedoms and a democratic opening. The new authorities should take immediate steps to release political prisoners, permit free expression and assembly, and set the stage for open and competitive elections.

The people of Cuba want to seize the opportunity for real change, and so must we. The American people have been on the side of the Cuban people's struggle for freedom and democracy in the past, and we must and we will be on the side of the Cuban people in the future.

As President, I will engage our partners in Latin America and Europe who have a strong stake in seeing a peaceful transition to democracy in Cuba, and who want very much for the United States to play a constructive role to that end. I believe that we should maintain current restrictions on trade with Cuba until the government takes concrete steps to guarantee political and civil liberties and permit free and fair elections. We should also support providing assistance for independent Cuban civil society, Radio and Television Marti, negotiating direct mail service to Cuba, and upgrading telecommunications equipment to ease communication between the people of Cuba and their relatives abroad. I have also voted to support greater flexibility for immediate family members to visit Cuba in humanitarian cases.

The United States must pursue an active policy to advance the cause of freedom, democracy, and opportunity for the people of Cuba. That is the policy I will pursue as President.

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/vi...

Since: Feb 08

United States

#9 Jun 1, 2008
Clinton is projected winner in Puerto Rico based on exit polls!

In case anyone is interested in the actual precinct reporting for Puerto Rico here is a link:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/re...

Since: Feb 08

United States

#11 Jun 2, 2008
So carefully crafted, this insertion in our psyche. Used it, now it’s time to say goodbye, move on and become what you are. And what is that?

The Honorary Kennedy
Ted and Caroline anointed Barack Obama as the candidate best qualified to carry on the JFK legacy. But to live up to it, he has to put it in the past.

By Chris Smith Published Jun 1, 2008

http://nymag.com/news/politics/nationalintere...

David Axelrod on Obama and RFK:

[He often likens Obama to Robert F. Kennedy and told The Washington Post, "I thought that if I could help Barack Obama get to Washington, then I would have accomplished something great in my life."[1]]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Axelrod_ (political_consultant)

Since: Feb 08

United States

#12 Jun 3, 2008
No matter what. Get off the computer and vote!! She fought so hard for you to have a say. Your vote is what matters! If you think she is right, but by chance she does lose, your voice will carry weight beyond what happens today! Go Hillary!!!

Here is the latest news:

Short version- no video

Clinton Says She Will Not Concede Tonight
Carolyn Lochhead

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi...

Long version includes video, but not too bad a load to get to the text on dial up.

Clinton not ready to concede race, her campaign chair

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/03/electi...

[There are not enough pledged delegates at stake in Montana and South Dakota to put Obama over the top, but a rush of endorsements by the remaining undeclared "superdelegates" could allow him to claim victory when he takes the stage in Minnesota Tuesday evening.]

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