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America deserves to fail

Lehighton, PA

#53966 Nov 15, 2013
Watching the boy wonder flail, flounder, and fail is giving me great satisfaction ... but I've always told you that he would. LOL

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53968 Nov 15, 2013
Let’s kill off this myth about second-term presidents

“In a second term, once a president’s numbers decline, they never come back up.” That’s what Republican pollster Ed Goeas says, as reported by Alex Roarty. It’s a myth, and it it would be nice to kill this one off quickly.

To begin with: There have been all of 12 presidents in the polling era; Barack Obama is only the eighth to reach a second term. So it’s hard to make any Iron Laws of Politics out of only eight examples.

Moreover, four of those presidents — Truman, Johnson, Nixon and George W. Bush — all had drops in popularity associated with events which persisted to the end of their presidencies (Bush’s case is a little tricky because as the Iraq War was winding down, a recession began which continued getting worse until he left office).

So the question in those cases is presumably not about public opinion, but about events, and we can easily see that events at other points in a president’s term (say, the Reagan recession, or Clinton’s poor first two years) can be overcome.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-part...

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53969 Nov 15, 2013
No, Obamacare Won’t Cause Millions Of Workers To Lose Their Employer Sponsored Health Plans

Forbes contributor and former Mitt Romney health care adviser Avik Roy wrote a piece claiming that the Obama administration knew “93 million Americans will be unable to keep their health plans” under Obamacare and that many of them would actually be workers with employer-sponsored coverage.

Under the “grandfather clause,” a plan issued before the ACA was signed in 2010 could remain in place as long as employers or insurance companies didn’t drastically change its terms in a way that would harm the policy holder, like increasing out-of-pocket costs or dropping benefits. However, if a plan did change, it would lose its “grandfather status.” Then, any new plan issued in its place would be subject to Obamacare’s various requirements.

“So it isn’t like all of a sudden people are going to wake up and find out I don’t have my employer coverage anymore,” said Jost.“It’s just there are going to be some minor changes in those plans that benefit enrollees, and that many employers probably already covered anyway.” These small changes might include things like covering workers’ dependent children, or adding preventative care services, according to Jost.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/11/01/28...

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53970 Nov 15, 2013
In Colorado, A Couple Finds Relief In Obamacare

There’s plenty of criticism of the Affordable Care Act and how it’s being implemented.

But let’s introduce you to someone who is quite pleased with her Obamacare experience: Lela Petersen of Flagler, Colo. She’s a small business owner with a very big health insurance bill.

But thanks to the health law, she expects that bill will be cut by more than half in January.

Petersen is 57, and her husband, Mike, is 60. They have some pre-existing conditions. He has diabetes. She has a back injury. The HMO policy they’ve carried since 1992 has risen over the years to $1,950 per month, just for the two of them.

…. At the beginning of October she checked out Colorado’s insurance exchange and found the exact same policy from the same insurer for only $832 a month.“It’s dropping us down about $1,100 a month. We can retire. We can go fishing. We can actually see a future,” says Petersen.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/11/05/24...

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53972 Nov 15, 2013
Jonathan Cohn:

‘I Would Jump At It’ The media labeled her an Obamacare victim. Here’s what she really thinks.

If you’ve followed the stories of insurance cancellations related to Obamacare, you may have heard about Dianne Barrette. She’s the 57-year-old Florida realtor who was paying $54 a month for a Blue Cross insurance plan. The plan won’t be available after December. And while FloridaBlue offered her a new plan, the company told her the premium would be $591 a month. Barrette, who makes $30,000 a year and could not pay for such a plan, was flabbergasted.

Jan Crawford of CBS News made her the key source for a story about plan cancellations. An appearance on Fox News followed, as did multiple cameos in press releases from Obamacare critics. For at least a few days, she was the poster child for the Obamacare cancellation story.

But Barrette’s situation defies quick and easy description. It’s true that she can’t keep her current policy—and that most policies available to her for next year have higher premiums. But those plans also offer real coverage, and her current plan does not.

Some people might resent government effectively prohibiting her current plan. Barrette doesn’t appear to be one of them. Based on conversations we’ve had over the past few days, she wants more comprehensive insurance and, within reason, she’s willing to pay more for it.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53973 Nov 15, 2013
Bob Cesca:

Another Obamacare ‘Horror Story’ Debunked; And, No, the President Didn’t Lie About the Law

As the week began, another “Obamacare” horror story hit the press, instigating a fleet of outrage-pornographers and concern trolls across the political spectrum to resume its self-flagellation and screeching about the disastrous Affordable Care Act — selectively forgetting about actual healthcare horror stories that existed before the law was implemented. It was a story focusing on yet another vague, anecdotal tale about a hapless ACA victim whose insurance policy was canceled, thus vindicating the accusation that the president lied about “keeping your existing insurance policy if you like it.”

Before we dive into the lie accusation, let’s take a closer look at an op/ed for the Wall Street Journal written by a stage-4 gallbladder cancer survivor, Edie Littlefield Sundby.
...
Once again, no. The ACA didn’t force Sundby off her plan. UnitedHealthcare’s profit margin was the culprit here. But regarding this alleged lie, the president was actually correct given the language of the law.

The Affordable Care Act, as signed by the president in 2010, states quite clearly that if your individual health insurance plan was in effect prior to March 23, 2010, your plan would be grandfathered as-is, despite new rules that expand mandatory benefits and ban practices such as lifetime limits. In other words, if you signed up for an insurance policy before March of 2010, and if you like that policy, you could ostensibly keep it. It’s in the law.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53974 Nov 15, 2013
6 other Obamacare promises – and these are very much coming true

Republicans recently pounced on the fact that, yes, some Americans will lose their current crummy insurance plans that don’t meet the new standards set by the Affordable Care Act.

These Republicans are accusing President Obama of having misled the American public – or worse, having lied.

I think that’s a ridiculous claim. If you like your crummy plan, you can’t keep your crummy plan under Obamacare, but odds are you will find a better plan that is also more affordable, with subsidies available to more than half of Americans.

Aside from parsing this promise that you could keep your plan, it is wrong to say that this alone was how Obamacare was sold to the public.

…. here, for the record, are a few of the Affordable Care kept promises:

1. Millions of young Americans will get access to health care by staying on their parents' plans.
...
2. You will no longer be denied insurance because of a pre-existing condition.
...
3. Your insurance will no longer be cut off due to spending caps.
...
4. You will now be guaranteed much more comprehensive coverage.
...
5. The Affordable Care Act will cover millions of Americans who have lacked insurance.
...
6. The Affordable Care Act is projected to lower the deficit.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/04/news/economy/...
Michelle

West Mifflin, PA

#53976 Nov 15, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
In Colorado, A Couple Finds Relief In Obamacare
There’s plenty of criticism of the Affordable Care Act and how it’s being implemented.
But let’s introduce you to someone who is quite pleased with her Obamacare experience: Lela Petersen of Flagler, Colo. She’s a small business owner with a very big health insurance bill.
But thanks to the health law, she expects that bill will be cut by more than half in January.
Petersen is 57, and her husband, Mike, is 60. They have some pre-existing conditions. He has diabetes. She has a back injury. The HMO policy they’ve carried since 1992 has risen over the years to $1,950 per month, just for the two of them.
…. At the beginning of October she checked out Colorado’s insurance exchange and found the exact same policy from the same insurer for only $832 a month.“It’s dropping us down about $1,100 a month. We can retire. We can go fishing. We can actually see a future,” says Petersen.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2013/11/05/24...
Of course it dropped down with higher out of pocket expenses......and higher drug cost and doctor visits. NO ONE can get cheaper monthly premiums and have lower out of pocket money for doctors, hospitals and prescription drugs under obamcare. NO HOW, NO WAY!

You get what you pay for, you can spin it however way you want to.
lower the deficit

Ventura, CA

#53977 Nov 15, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
6 other Obamacare promises – and these are very much coming true
Republicans recently pounced on the fact that, yes, some Americans will lose their current crummy insurance plans that don’t meet the new standards set by the Affordable Care Act.
These Republicans are accusing President Obama of having misled the American public – or worse, having lied.
I think that’s a ridiculous claim. If you like your crummy plan, you can’t keep your crummy plan under Obamacare, but odds are you will find a better plan that is also more affordable, with subsidies available to more than half of Americans.
Aside from parsing this promise that you could keep your plan, it is wrong to say that this alone was how Obamacare was sold to the public.
…. here, for the record, are a few of the Affordable Care kept promises:
1. Millions of young Americans will get access to health care by staying on their parents' plans.
...
2. You will no longer be denied insurance because of a pre-existing condition.
...
3. Your insurance will no longer be cut off due to spending caps.
...
4. You will now be guaranteed much more comprehensive coverage.
...
5. The Affordable Care Act will cover millions of Americans who have lacked insurance.
...
6. The Affordable Care Act is projected to lower the deficit.
http://money.cnn.com/2013/11/04/news/economy/...
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You're free to believe the conspiracy theories,

just don't expect those of us living in the reality-based universe to go along with it.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53978 Nov 15, 2013
The Obama Polling Collapse Is Massively Overstated

Obama’s popularity is probably at the low point of his presidency (again, depending on the adjustments, he’s either a bit below or a bit above his previous low. But it’s not any kind of unusually low low point (he’s nowhere near Truman, Carter, Nixon, W.), there’s no particular reason to expect the slump to continue, and myths aside no reason to believe he won’t recover if the news turns better. Granted, it’s hard to know what to expect from healthcare.gov , but it’s not as if it’s getting worse over time. I’m not saying his numbers will go up. Just that it’s more or less equally likely as further drops….

As for electoral effects? I wrote an item dismissing direct electoral effects of the shutdown against Republicans back last month; that post pretty much works now, in reverse for effects against Democrats. I should say: it’s far easier for sentiment against the president to translate into midterm electoral losses than it is for feelings against the out-party.

So if Obama is unpopular in November 2014, it will hurt Democrats. But today’s frenzy about the ACA is going to be mostly forgotten by then, one way or another, just as the shutdown seems forgotten today. That’s probably even true, believe it or not, if the program totally collapses, although I don’t think that’s going to happen.

Anyway, Obama’s approval ratings have in fact fallen from the mid-40s to the low-40s, and over the course of the year from around 50 to the low 40s. It’s obviously not good news for him, but it seems a lot less dramatic than a lot of the chatter this week would have it be.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ten-miles-sq... #

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53979 Nov 15, 2013
A Chart That Will Help Dispel Your Obamacare Hysteria

The numbers are from Massachusetts, the state whose health reforms became the template for the Affordable Care Act’s coverage expansion. The place to look is within what’s known as the “Commonwealth Care” program, which is where people getting private insurance subsidies shopped for plans—in other words, an analogous structure to the new federally run exchanges.

Raw statistics on enrollment are already in circulation. They show that the majority people didn’t sign up right away and a the biggest rush came at the end, when people realized they would owe a financial penalty for going without insurance.

But even the raw numbers don’t fully capture the timing of enrollment, because they include large numbers of people whom Massachusetts officials automatically transferred from a “free care” pool the state had operated previously. If you want to get a real sense of enrollment patterns among people choosing to shop and buy plans, it’s better to exclude the people getting free care.
...
Jonathan Gruber, the MIT economist who was an architect of the Massachusetts health reforms, has provided me with those numbers.

The results? Of the 36,167 people who eventually enrolled in premium-charging plans from Commonwealth Care, 123 signed up in the first month. That’s right—one hundred and twenty-three, or about 0.3 percent. Over the first two months, the number was a bit larger—2,289. But that’s still just 6.3 percent.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/115309/oba...

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53980 Nov 15, 2013
How much ACA enrollment is enough?

Bottom line — expectations of large-scale, instantaneous enrollment in the ACA are unrealistic and uninformed.

Massachusetts has achieved a level of coverage which is higher than the likely full impact of the ACA ever — about 97% of all state residents. The rest of the nation should be so lucky. AND, it did not happen over night. It was a slow crawl, not a sprint.

http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/health/health...
Michelle

West Mifflin, PA

#53981 Nov 15, 2013
Once again obamcare was set up for the poor low class no good for nothing leeches that have been feeding of the governments teats for years.

Your average working class dont get a break on obamacare.

The young and healthy will support the old and sick, thats the way obamcare is set up.

Why punish a young person will no health issues to purchase obamcare. It's like you're forced to buy a fishing/hunting license when you dont fish or hunt?
resent government

Ventura, CA

#53982 Nov 15, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Jonathan Cohn:
‘I Would Jump At It’ The media labeled her an Obamacare victim. Here’s what she really thinks.
If you’ve followed the stories of insurance cancellations related to Obamacare, you may have heard about Dianne Barrette. She’s the 57-year-old Florida realtor who was paying $54 a month for a Blue Cross insurance plan. The plan won’t be available after December. And while FloridaBlue offered her a new plan, the company told her the premium would be $591 a month. Barrette, who makes $30,000 a year and could not pay for such a plan, was flabbergasted.
Jan Crawford of CBS News made her the key source for a story about plan cancellations. An appearance on Fox News followed, as did multiple cameos in press releases from Obamacare critics. For at least a few days, she was the poster child for the Obamacare cancellation story.
But Barrette’s situation defies quick and easy description. It’s true that she can’t keep her current policy—and that most policies available to her for next year have higher premiums. But those plans also offer real coverage, and her current plan does not.
Some people might resent government effectively prohibiting her current plan. Barrette doesn’t appear to be one of them. Based on conversations we’ve had over the past few days, she wants more comprehensive insurance and, within reason, she’s willing to pay more for it.
..........

The pattern of corruption in this administration is becoming obvious to all but the most imbecilic leftist sycophants who turn a blind eye to it.

Obama and the democrat party have corrupted just about every agency of the US Government into ideological enforcers of leftist democrat political policy.

Obama and his entire administration deserve to go to prison.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53983 Nov 15, 2013
Michelle wrote:
<quoted text>Of course it dropped down with higher out of pocket expenses......and higher drug cost and doctor visits. NO ONE can get cheaper monthly premiums and have lower out of pocket money for doctors, hospitals and prescription drugs under obamcare. NO HOW, NO WAY!
You get what you pay for, you can spin it however way you want to.
Learn to read:

"...the exact same policy..."

NOT higher out of pocket expenses - the EXACT SAME policy.

It's not spin - it's the simple truth.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53984 Nov 15, 2013
Rate Shock Probably Affects Less Than 1 Percent of the Country

How many people are subject to rate shock in the individual insurance market thanks to Obamacare? That's a surprisingly hard figure to get a handle on. But here's a rough cut:

- There are about 15 million people who currently get individual coverage.
- Of that, only about 5 million stay in the individual market for more than a year. The rest have individual coverage for only a few months and are minimally impacted by policy cancellations.
- At a guess, maybe a third of these long-term buyers will end up with higher rates for comparable policies once they've shopped the exchange and applied their subsidies.

So that's a grand total of perhaps 1-2 million people. It's a lot. At the same time, it's less than 1 percent of the population of the country. I don't want to minimize the pain that higher rates are causing this 1 percent, but at the same time, we shouldn't be overreacting either. Given the kludgy nature of our current health care system and the realities of American politics, it would be hard to design any kind of large-scale health care reform that did much better.

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/11...

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53985 Nov 15, 2013
Michelle wrote:
Once again obamcare was set up for the poor low class no good for nothing leeches that have been feeding of the governments teats for years.
Your average working class dont get a break on obamacare.
The young and healthy will support the old and sick, thats the way obamcare is set up.
Why punish a young person will no health issues to purchase obamcare. It's like you're forced to buy a fishing/hunting license when you dont fish or hunt?
Oh, I see.

You're a troll.

Nevermind.
Sean H

West Mifflin, PA

#53986 Nov 15, 2013
Sean Hannity Gets Fact-Checked Hard On Obamacare Claims

Sean Hannity has been fact-checked, and the results aren't pretty.

In an article posted on Salon on Friday, Eric Stern "re-reported" a recent episode of Fox News' "Hannity" during which host Sean Hannity invited six guests to tell their Obamacare "horror stories."

According to Stern, there was a lot more to each of the guests' stories than Hannity let on. Stern decided to conduct his own investigation by separately interviewing each guest, and what he said he found was not that the guests were cheated by Obamacare, but rather that they had tried very little, if at all, to participate in the ACA.

Stern accused the Fox News host of using "fake evidence" to "exploit people’s ignorance and falsely point to imaginary boogeymen," deeming it all a part of the "Fox News lie machine."

Paul Cox and his wife Michelle, for example, appeared on the show claiming that their construction business has been hit hard because of Obamacare, giving them no choice but to significantly cut employee hours. Stern noted that Obamacare has no effect on any business with less than 50 employees.

And now back to FIXED news for the most reliable, trustworthy, late breaking unbiased news !

Take a peek here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/18/sean...

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#53988 Nov 15, 2013
Congratulations, America! Your deficit fell 37 percent in 2013

The federal government’s 2013 fiscal year ended Sept. 30, though most of us were so busy focusing on the government shutdown that accompanied the new fiscal year that there wasn’t much time to reflect on the year that had passed.

Now the Treasury and Office of Management and Budget is out with the final budget results. Surprise! The deficit fell quite a bit in 2013. The federal government took in $680 billion less revenue than it spent, or about 4.1 percent of gross domestic product. In 2012, those numbers were $1.087 trillion and 6.8 percent of GDP. That means the deficit fell a whopping 37 percent in one year.

This is the first sub-$1 trillion and sub-5 percent of GDP deficit since the 2008 fiscal year, which ended the very month that Lehman Brothers fell and a deep crisis set in.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...
680 billion

Ventura, CA

#53989 Nov 15, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
Congratulations, America! Your deficit fell 37 percent in 2013
The federal government’s 2013 fiscal year ended Sept. 30, though most of us were so busy focusing on the government shutdown that accompanied the new fiscal year that there wasn’t much time to reflect on the year that had passed.
Now the Treasury and Office of Management and Budget is out with the final budget results. Surprise! The deficit fell quite a bit in 2013. The federal government took in $680 billion less revenue than it spent, or about 4.1 percent of gross domestic product. In 2012, those numbers were $1.087 trillion and 6.8 percent of GDP. That means the deficit fell a whopping 37 percent in one year.
This is the first sub-$1 trillion and sub-5 percent of GDP deficit since the 2008 fiscal year, which ended the very month that Lehman Brothers fell and a deep crisis set in.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...
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thank god the house of reps is republican controlled.

some has to keep that sticky fingered chicago gangland thug out of the cookie jar

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