Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50554 Jul 1, 2013
Effington wrote:
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There is a problem with potential costs. Healthcare providers will be receiving several hundred billion dollars in a few months driven by the ACA and millions more Americans with health insurance.
There are very few cost-control measures in the ACA, and economically speaking, throwing billions of more dollars at healthcare providers for provided services historically leads to an increase in prices for those services.
Hospitals, while technically "non-profit," are still driven by price elasticities of demand.
We desperately needed healthcare reform in this country, I'm just afraid that the ACA isn't enough. I am strongly in support of a single-payer system.
I agree that the ACA doesn't go far enough and single-payer is the best option, having shown success everywhere it's implemented.

But the ACA is the best compromise that was possible in our current political environment. There are problems that need to be addressed. Unfortunately, the GOP is using those problems to condemn the whole effort and refusing to fix them in an attempt to undermine the ACA.

But there are, in fact, many cost-control measures in the law.

From the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation:

How does the ACA control health care costs?
http://www.rwjf.org/content/dam/farm/reports/...
Sam Witches

Auburn, PA

#50556 Jul 1, 2013
the nose knows wrote:
Michele Bachmann’s Husband is Gay and she's against gays? LMAO !@!!
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/michele-bach...
she doesn't hate gay people, she just hates her husband.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50557 Jul 1, 2013
The BHO Legacy wrote:
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Massachusetts Democrats To Force Governor To Seek Waiver From Obamacare Provisions
A very interesting ACA development is taking place in Massachusetts today as the state that “inspired” Obamacare tries to reconcile its current law with the new federal law. Push back in the compliance effort is coming from an unexpected source, the senior Democratic budget writer in the State Senate, Senator Stephen Brewer, presumably with support from the Senate President as well. The amendment that was filed would force President Obama’s good friend Governor Deval Patrick (D), and his Administration, to seek a waiver from certain elements of Obamacare. The move could come to a head if the provision lands on the Governor’s desk, resulting in an embarrassing political moment for the Obama Administration since the ACA is forcing significant changes to a state law they claim acted as a model in Washington.
...While state officials have known for some time that the ACA-required changes to rating factors would result in “extreme premium increases” and spike premiums for 60% of small companies (some as high as 50+%) in the state, the best the Patrick Administration could do was spread the increases out over 3 years under an agreement from CMS.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/201...
Wonder why you skipped this sentence:
"Turns out, the conventional wisdom comparing Romneycare and Obamacare has proven to be overly simplistic..."

You weren't trying to distort the facts, now would you? LOL!

MA has a better law than the ACA. It's perfectly reasonable for them to want to give preference to their own law.

If the GOP had been constructively engaged in healthcare reform rather than trying to undermine it at every step, the law likely would have been better. But this is the best we could do with only functioning party in DC.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50559 Jul 1, 2013
The BHO Legacy wrote:
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You'd really be better off to dial back your emotionalism and educate yourself. Maybe you'd embarrass yourself less.
Maybe.
LOL!
LOL! You just don't have the capacity to think or talk for yourself, do you?

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50561 Jul 1, 2013
The BHO Legacy wrote:
As Egypt unravels, Team Obama increases support for Muslim Brotherhood
The news from Egypt is grim.
Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood president, Mohammed Morsi made international headlines this week as he appointed Adel Al Khayat as governor of Luxor, an ancient Egyptian city that is key tourist destination.
The problem with Mr. Khayat? He just happens to lead the “political” arm of a terrorist organization that massacred tourists in Luxor in 1997. The details of the attack are beyond grisly, with many of the dead disemboweled and notes “praising Islam” placed inside their mutilated bodies....
Against this backdrop of Shariah and jihad – and hidden behind the blanket news coverage of the Obama administration’s other scandals – the White House has decided to increase its financial support for the Muslim Brotherhood, quietly clearing the way for the U.S. to give Egypt $1.3 billion in military aid.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/06/21/as-...
Jay Sekulow!? Seriously? LMAO!

The State Department laid out its national security rationale for allowing the aid, previously approved by Congress, to go forward.

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According to the May 9 memo, the U.S. national interests served by the aid include increasing security in the Sinai, helping prevent attacks from Gaza into Israel, countering terrorism and securing transit through the Suez Canal.

"A strong U.S. security partnership with Egypt, underpinned by FMF (Foreign Military Financing), maintains a channel to Egyptian military leadership, who are key opinion makers in the country," Kerry wrote in the memo which was obtained by Reuters.

"A decision to waive restrictions on FMF to Egypt is necessary to uphold these interests as we encourage Egypt to continue its transition to democracy," he added.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/07/us-...

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You may disagree with the decision, but to claim the Obama made a personal decision to arm Muslim terrorists is simply a lie.

Since: Jun 08

Not Waynesboro or Hagerstown

#50562 Jul 1, 2013
Effington wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a problem with potential costs. Healthcare providers will be receiving several hundred billion dollars in a few months driven by the ACA and millions more Americans with health insurance.
There are very few cost-control measures in the ACA, and economically speaking, throwing billions of more dollars at healthcare providers for provided services historically leads to an increase in prices for those services.
Hospitals, while technically "non-profit," are still driven by price elasticities of demand.
We desperately needed healthcare reform in this country, I'm just afraid that the ACA isn't enough. I am strongly in support of a single-payer system.
Cradle to grave?

Does that come with a free cellphone, car and kool cigarettes?

Since: Jun 08

Not Waynesboro or Hagerstown

#50563 Jul 1, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
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I agree that the ACA doesn't go far enough and single-payer is the best option, having shown success everywhere it's implemented.
But the ACA is the best compromise that was possible in our current political environment. There are problems that need to be addressed. Unfortunately, the GOP is using those problems to condemn the whole effort and refusing to fix them in an attempt to undermine the ACA.
But there are, in fact, many cost-control measures in the law.
From the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation:
How does the ACA control health care costs?
http://www.rwjf.org/content/dam/farm/reports/...
Tort reform #1

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50564 Jul 1, 2013
GenPatton wrote:
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Tort reform #1
Not much objective evidence tort reform would work, but the ACA includes research for pilot projects to see if it would help.
truth

Erie, PA

#50565 Jul 1, 2013
Single-payer, all the rest sucks.
John

Poland

#50567 Jul 1, 2013
http://articlesdays.com/unemployment-rate

very good website for all statistic if somebody needs

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50570 Jul 1, 2013
The BHO Legacy wrote:
IRS: Liberal groups got less scrutiny than Tea Party
The Internal Revenue Service did flag tax-exempt applications from liberal groups for extra attention, but they did not receive the same scrutiny as did those from Tea Party groups, according to the inspector general who investigated the IRS targeting.
The word "progressive" was included on a "be on the look out" list, or BOLO list, used by IRS agents in the agency's Cincinnati field office, Russell George said in a June 26 letter to Rep. Sander Levin of Michigan, the top Democrat on the House Ways and Means Committee. Those lists were used to determine which groups' application should be studied more carefully.
Unlike the way Tea Party applications were handled, George wrote, there were no "instructions on how to refer cases that met" the progressive criteria. "We found no indication … that 'progressives' was a term used to refer cases for scrutiny for political campaign intervention." The IRS was trying to determine whether the groups did too much political activity to qualify for the non-profit status reserved for predominantly "social welfare" groups.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2...
Yes, you already posted this.

Any "information" about this IRS bullshit with IG George as the source has already been thoroughly discredited. The man likely committed perjury before Congress. He is simply not a reliable witness.

It has come out that the Inspector General’s report on the IRS was deliberately limited to only discussing Tea Party groups, and the IG says it was Congressional Republicans who ordered this limitation.

In other words, the whole “scandal” was ginned up from the start. It’s not just that the IRS was targeting progressive groups also, but that the entire IG report was deliberately skewed, with undisclosed parameters, to create the false impression that Tea Party groups were being singled out.

Now the IG and the Republicans are pointing the finger at each other, and the only scandal concerns the investigation itself.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50571 Jul 1, 2013
The BHO Legacy wrote:
The bill with the surprise inside: The IRS is now your doctor, sort of
While promoting Obamacare, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi encouraged Americans to think of it as a kind of Christmas present.“We have to pass the (health care) bill so that you can find out what is in it,” she told the National Association of Counties in March 2010, days before President Obama signed the Affordable Care Act.
Now we know that the surprise inside Obamacare includes an historic expansion of the IRS, arguably the most hated of federal agencies.
That role was no accident: When Obamacare eventually passed constitutional muster one year ago, it was only because, conservative Supreme Court Chief Justice John Roberts argued, the Affordable Care Act relies on Congress’ power to tax.
http://watchdog.org/92595/the-bill-with-the-s...
LOL! You might be better off NOT posting the link to the garbage you post. Any fair-minded, rational person who reads this particular link will recognize it for what it is - a steaming pile of wingnut propaganda filled with half-truths and outright lies.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50572 Jul 1, 2013
Pew: Nonprofit journalism doesn’t mean ideology-free

Nonprofit news orgs aren’t all ProPublicas; many are driven by political interests and aren’t transparent about their funding, a Pew analysis finds.

Pew had the expected nice things to say about the usual nonprofit rock stars, like ProPublica, the Texas Tribune, MinnPost, and California Watch. They’re transparent about their funding sources, which are numerous; their doesn’t skew too far in one political direction; they produce a lot of journalism, compared to their nonprofit peers.

But the major national networks of state politics sites — the conservative Watchdog.org sites and the liberal American Independent News Network — don’t reveal much about who’s paying their bills, and their work skews clearly in one direction, both in the topics they cover and the content of individual stories.

http://www.niemanlab.org/2011/07/pew-nonprofi...

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Watchdog! LMAO!

By posting from overtly partisan, far-right sources, you reveal that you are not serious about the truth.

You prove that your agenda isn't honest and that your visceral hatred for the President is driving you to mindlessly attack him, regardless of the facts or reality.

You're a mendacious partisan hack, my friend. You prove it every day.
America deserves to fail

Lehighton, PA

#50573 Jul 1, 2013
... period.
typical neocon

Hazleton, PA

#50574 Jul 1, 2013
Anybody ever spank it to Corbett?

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50576 Jul 1, 2013
The BHO Legacy wrote:
Obamacare Shocker: Premiums Could Double
This morning’s Wall Street Journal published its own analysis of premiums under Obamacare, and its conclusions will prompt shock—rate shock—among those who need to buy health insurance under the law’s new exchanges next year:
* Healthy consumers could see insurance rates double or even triple when they look for individual coverage under the federal health law later this year, while the premiums paid by sicker people are set to become more affordable, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis of coverage to be sold on the law’s new exchanges. The exchanges, the centerpiece of President Barack Obama’s health-care law, look likely to offer few if any of the cut-rate policies that healthy people can now buy, according to the Journal’s analysis.
http://blog.heritage.org/2013/07/01/obamacare...
Anybody who is surprised by this hasn't been paying attention.

When healthy people choose not to buy insurance or to buy inadequate insurance, then get sick or have an accident that racks up tens of thousands of dollars in care, the rest of us pay for their care. That's already happening.

Utilizing the conservative principle of making people take responsibly for themselves, the ACA includes the Republican idea of an individual mandate.

When people are required to take responsibility for themselves and buy adequate insurance, guess what? Their costs are going to go up. Big surprise.

BTW - when Heritage hired a white supremacist to write a distorted and dishonest analysis of immigration reform, whatever tiny shred of credibility they had left was erased. Quoting proven liars only embarrasses yourself. LOL!
risky business

West Mifflin, PA

#50577 Jul 1, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
<quoted text>
Anybody who is surprised by this hasn't been paying attention.
When healthy people choose not to buy insurance or to buy inadequate insurance, then get sick or have an accident that racks up tens of thousands of dollars in care, the rest of us pay for their care. That's already happening.
Utilizing the conservative principle of making people take responsibly for themselves, the ACA includes the Republican idea of an individual mandate.
When people are required to take responsibility for themselves and buy adequate insurance, guess what? Their costs are going to go up. Big surprise.
BTW - when Heritage hired a white supremacist to write a distorted and dishonest analysis of immigration reform, whatever tiny shred of credibility they had left was erased. Quoting proven liars only embarrasses yourself. LOL!
So you agree that because of obamacare insurance rates will go up? Why not just say that and be done with it..... YES the rates will go up and my employer isnt happy about it,who pays for 90% of my healthcare ,I pay the 10 %. my sister who is a school teacher heard that their school district will have to dish out another 150.00 a month for each school employee because of obamacare. Spin it however you want too, the lazy welfare trash still wont pay for healthcare. So we have to support the ones that pay nothing??? LOL! Great plan!!! Obamacare will drive the businesses out of this country that cant afford to give their employees healthcare.. LOL!
LaughingAtYou

Chicago, IL

#50578 Jul 1, 2013
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
...When you can't refute the facts, your only resort is to malign the source. Just sayin...
Dan the Man Chambersburg wrote:
By posting from overtly partisan, far-right sources, you reveal that you are not serious about the truth....
Obviously you can't dispute the facts so you malign the sources. Shame on you.

LOL!

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50579 Jul 2, 2013
LaughingAtYou wrote:
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Obviously you can't dispute the facts so you malign the sources. Shame on you.
LOL!
I disputed the "facts" AND the source.

Since: May 12

Chambersburg, PA

#50580 Jul 2, 2013
risky business wrote:
<quoted text>So you agree that because of obamacare insurance rates will go up? Why not just say that and be done with it..... YES the rates will go up and my employer isnt happy about it,who pays for 90% of my healthcare ,I pay the 10 %. my sister who is a school teacher heard that their school district will have to dish out another 150.00 a month for each school employee because of obamacare. Spin it however you want too, the lazy welfare trash still wont pay for healthcare. So we have to support the ones that pay nothing??? LOL! Great plan!!! Obamacare will drive the businesses out of this country that cant afford to give their employees healthcare.. LOL!
Rates will go up for SOME people. Overall the ACA will cost Americans less and reduce the deficit.

And you are ALREADY supporting those who pay nothing. People who don't take responsibility and buy health insurance cost the rest of us about $50 billion a year.

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