Teacher sorry for binding girls in sl...

Teacher sorry for binding girls in slavery lesson

There are 40 comments on the WIBW-TV Topeka story from Dec 5, 2008, titled Teacher sorry for binding girls in slavery lesson. In it, WIBW-TV Topeka reports that:

A white social studies teacher attempted to enliven a seventh-grade discussion of slavery by binding the hands and feet of two black girls, prompting outrage from one girl's mother and the local chapter of the ...

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Since: Dec 08

Bay City, MI

#23 Dec 6, 2008
Curlylocks wrote:
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Pure generalizations.
WTH does that mean? Does it not matter? If that were you or your Mother or sister or daughter would it matter then?

Yeah, it is different when it is personal!!

Since: Dec 08

Bay City, MI

#24 Dec 6, 2008
Curlylocks wrote:
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No, it doesn't. Are whites being dicriminated against by whites?
No one said it was whites discriminating against whites. I dont know where you got that from. We are talking about discrimination against other races.

I am only saying that it should be EQUAL. Everyone snivels about having equal rights, then let's make it equal!

“Das raht!”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#25 Dec 6, 2008
Sick of you wrote:
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No one said it was whites discriminating against whites. I dont know where you got that from. We are talking about discrimination against other races.
I am only saying that it should be EQUAL. Everyone snivels about having equal rights, then let's make it equal!
I think it should be equal too. I said that a few posts ago. I am not everyone. How do we make it equal? What needs to happen?

“Das raht!”

Since: Dec 06

Location hidden

#26 Dec 6, 2008
Sick of you wrote:
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WTH does that mean? Does it not matter? If that were you or your Mother or sister or daughter would it matter then?
Yeah, it is different when it is personal!!
You said,' the way they may talk or dress that frighten others, even other black people. I know black people that would never be caught in a black neighborhood after dark b/c they are too scared of them...'

This is not all of us. If someone is suspect, they just are, not because they happen to be in a bad neighborhood. If they are acting badassed, they are suspect. Not all that look or sound like what might be suspect to you is.

I don't know what happened to you personally.
Dumb Ass

Princeton, NJ

#27 Dec 7, 2008
Perhaps he was demonstrating the sex slave trade.
Dave Dunlap

Pensacola, FL

#29 Dec 7, 2008
Sick of you writes, "I didnt say everything was equal, what I am trying to point out is that if the white people had a group that they called on when they thought they were being wronged, people would say that is prejudiced. But the black people do it and nothing is said. how is that fair? How can you have one without the other?"

There is a group that gripes every day about how whites are treated unfairly. It's called the KKK, and from these posts I would guess there are many closet members in central Pennsylvania.
Harvard History Professor

Brooklyn, NY

#30 Dec 7, 2008
Many American Blacks are "hung up" about the slavery thing. They are stunted by this hang up. We see Black West Indians and other African immigrants catapult past American Blacks in monetary success in just one generation as they are not similarly "hung-up" by their notions of slavery.

In fact, our American Blacks know very little about Slavery or the fact that the A-rabs invented the practice and that A-rabs are still enslaving Blacks in Africa today.

The White Man is the only race of person who has ever truly repented Slavery and freed slaves. All American Blacks should pray to and demand a national HOLIDAY for Abe Lincoln. His direction of the Union Army and the Emancipation Proclamation was the key to Black liberation. Every successful Black "Rapper", showing off his stupid Bling should pay 100,000 dollars to the Abe Lincoln Museum in Sprinfield Illinois for appreciation.

Since Blacks aren't grateful to Honest Abe - they are condemned to live like little more than animals...the object of scorn from other ethnic groups like Koreans, Chinese, Poles, Russians and others who have catapulted ahead of Blacks in one generation in the United States.

Since: Dec 08

Bay City, MI

#31 Dec 7, 2008
Harvard History Professor wrote:
Many American Blacks are "hung up" about the slavery thing. They are stunted by this hang up. We see Black West Indians and other African immigrants catapult past American Blacks in monetary success in just one generation as they are not similarly "hung-up" by their notions of slavery.
In fact, our American Blacks know very little about Slavery or the fact that the A-rabs invented the practice and that A-rabs are still enslaving Blacks in Africa today.
The White Man is the only race of person who has ever truly repented Slavery and freed slaves. All American Blacks should pray to and demand a national HOLIDAY for Abe Lincoln. His direction of the Union Army and the Emancipation Proclamation was the key to Black liberation. Every successful Black "Rapper", showing off his stupid Bling should pay 100,000 dollars to the Abe Lincoln Museum in Sprinfield Illinois for appreciation.
Since Blacks aren't grateful to Honest Abe - they are condemned to live like little more than animals...the object of scorn from other ethnic groups like Koreans, Chinese, Poles, Russians and others who have catapulted ahead of Blacks in one generation in the United States.
Thank you for that information. I had no idea about the A-rabs. I just checked it out, there is a lot of information on the web about it. Now I am not as ashamed of my Ancestors, at least they stopped what they were doing.
BBA

Westminster, MD

#32 Dec 7, 2008
Harvard History Professor wrote:
Many American Blacks are "hung up" about the slavery thing. They are stunted by this hang up. We see Black West Indians and other African immigrants catapult past American Blacks in monetary success in just one generation as they are not similarly "hung-up" by their notions of slavery.
In fact, our American Blacks know very little about Slavery or the fact that the A-rabs invented the practice and that A-rabs are still enslaving Blacks in Africa today.
The White Man is the only race of person who has ever truly repented Slavery and freed slaves. All American Blacks should pray to and demand a national HOLIDAY for Abe Lincoln. His direction of the Union Army and the Emancipation Proclamation was the key to Black liberation. Every successful Black "Rapper", showing off his stupid Bling should pay 100,000 dollars to the Abe Lincoln Museum in Sprinfield Illinois for appreciation.
Since Blacks aren't grateful to Honest Abe - they are condemned to live like little more than animals...the object of scorn from other ethnic groups like Koreans, Chinese, Poles, Russians and others who have catapulted ahead of Blacks in one generation in the United States.
Abraham lincoln said that the place of superority should be given to the white race.Quoted in the mismeasure of man. And he freed slaves to deliver a blow to the confederacy. And many blacks fought for their freedom as soldiers for the union.
BBA

Westminster, MD

#33 Dec 7, 2008
sick of you. when I was in school my girlfriend who was white choked me in front of the whole cafeteria and staff and usually in that case charges would be pressed nothing happened heck she wasnt even suspended. What would of happened to me if I had done it to that girl. Better yet what would people think of me. I know personally if a sister did that more would of happened. That is unequality.

Since: Nov 08

United States of America

#34 Dec 8, 2008
Harvard History Professor wrote:
Many American Blacks are "hung up" about the slavery thing. They are stunted by this hang up. We see Black West Indians and other African immigrants catapult past American Blacks in monetary success in just one generation as they are not similarly "hung-up" by their notions of slavery.
In fact, our American Blacks know very little about Slavery or the fact that the A-rabs invented the practice and that A-rabs are still enslaving Blacks in Africa today.
The White Man is the only race of person who has ever truly repented Slavery and freed slaves. All American Blacks should pray to and demand a national HOLIDAY for Abe Lincoln. His direction of the Union Army and the Emancipation Proclamation was the key to Black liberation. Every successful Black "Rapper", showing off his stupid Bling should pay 100,000 dollars to the Abe Lincoln Museum in Sprinfield Illinois for appreciation.
Since Blacks aren't grateful to Honest Abe - they are condemned to live like little more than animals...the object of scorn from other ethnic groups like Koreans, Chinese, Poles, Russians and others who have catapulted ahead of Blacks in one generation in the United States.
I can not speak for all blacks, I can only speak for myself. I happen to know a lot about slavery, maybe not as much as a Harvard History Professor, but enough to know that slavery is a part of HISTORY. I know where and how slavery started, and I also know that whites were slaves too, so why not have the successful white rappers who show off their bling pay $100,00, to the Abraham Lincoln Musuem in appreciation?
Whites were not the only race that freed slaves. Moses led the Israelites (Hebrews, not identified as Arabs), to freedom.
You want all American Blacks to pray and demand a holiday for a man who owned slaves also, but have a problem apologizing for the things that has been and still is being done by whites today? Did you forget Professor of History, that there were black soldiers that fought in the war for freedom?
Blacks should be grateful to God, and those who died, and who were beaten and raped, so that their childrens children would not have to go through what they did.
I do not live "like little more than animals". I live just like you. In a home, that I am BUYING. I eat, sleep, work, and love my family just as you. I hope that is just your screen name. If you are a professor, you should be trying to educate instead of giving out rudiculous suggestions.
FACT: Asians are the predominant race in education and finance, not whites.

Since: Nov 08

United States of America

#35 Dec 8, 2008
I think that if the instructor was going to do such a extreme demostration, parents should have been notified and asked for permission to use their children for the demostration.
I also think that maybe the child was upset to know what happened to her people, and MAYBE,(read closely, MAYBE) the parent took it a little to far.
I C Jackson

United States

#36 Dec 8, 2008
The teacher was naive for devising such a presentation, but it was done out of ignorance, not racism.

A very poor judgment, but I believe she only meant for the children to be able to visualize how horrible it would have been for children they know to be their friends to have been enslaved hundreds of years ago.

Come on, Black people. We need to grow up. Get bent out of shape when it really matters, like when other minorities have the audacity to liken their struggles to ours whenever they feel "oppressed", i.e., "Gay is the new Black".

THAT'S what you should be P.O.'d about.

http://realblackissues.blogspot.com/2008/12/i...

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#37 Dec 8, 2008
For a teacher to tie up a student of ANY color shows an ignorance not befitting an educator. This teacher does not even have common sense much less enough training to be in charge of a classroom of young students.
open your minds

United States

#38 Dec 8, 2008
it was a demostration people, a demostration. the article said that a member of the naacp was present also. i would say that the child was just shook up about the experience and the parents over reacted. if you look at it both ways it can be a life changing experience, making our people strive for excellence.
these are the things that we should make an issue about: our black boys walking around sagging their pants, drugs in our communities, high school drop out rates, teen pregnacies, crime, racism, jobs
Sharon McEachern

Littleton, CO

#39 Dec 8, 2008
I was surprised at how many reporters, columnists and bloggers have gone out of their way to protect the teacher, commenting that she just could not have meant any racism, that she must have had good intentions, she was just naive and misled in this particular lesson on slavery. Oh Puleeze!

I believe there was indeed racism, but even if there was no intended racism, this teacher should be fired for her ignorance! How could any responsible adult, let alone a teacher with whom we entrust our children, not realize that this was inappropriate and hurtful behavior. If I had a child in her classroom, I would yank her out of there until the teacher was fired and replaced. And if the teacher is merely moved to another school, it would not be acceptable. That's what the Catholic Church has done for decades -- move pedophile priests to new parishes, only to defile more children.

Ethic Soup blog has a good article on this teaching slavery by binding students, at:

http://www.ethicsoup.com/2008/12/teachers-eth...

Sharon McEachern

“Try some common sense.”

Since: Sep 07

United States

#40 Dec 8, 2008
I'm black and I don't think the teacher meant any harm. Kids are taught about the slave trade and shown pictures and movies about it. Sometimes they have to write essays about it. I think she thought a reenactment would be more powerful. It wasn't executed well, but I don't think her intent was racist. Probably the opposite actually, because kids are pretty jaded and it's hard to "feel" for a picture of a slave long ago, but it's easy to feel outraged if your friend is being treated that way.

Another teacher had a discrimination experiment in her classroom a long time ago. She seperated the blonde students from the brown haired students and treated the blondes as if they were superior. Most, if not all, of the kids were white and it was lauded as a creative move by the teacher.

Since: Dec 08

Bay City, MI

#42 Dec 8, 2008
Yes We Did wrote:
I think that if the instructor was going to do such a extreme demostration, parents should have been notified and asked for permission to use their children for the demostration.
I also think that maybe the child was upset to know what happened to her people, and MAYBE,(read closely, MAYBE) the parent took it a little to far.
I agree totally! I can understand the teacher wanting to educate the children about slavery but it was done very poorly. She could have even used white girls to do this, but I bet their parents would have thrown a fit as well. But permission should have been given before doing such a thing.

Since: Dec 07

Location hidden

#43 Dec 9, 2008
I don't care if the teacher was racist or not! DO NOT TIE UP CHILDREN! SHEESH!
OogieBoogie

AOL

#45 Dec 16, 2008
The question that remains...since it WAS Haverstraw Middle School...were there ANY whites even IN the class?????????? What is the percentage of white people that attend HMS? Seriously...think about it. The teacher didn't mean any harm.

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