Chelmsford recall petition dead at de...

Chelmsford recall petition dead at deadline

There are 12 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Nov 4, 2010, titled Chelmsford recall petition dead at deadline. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

An effort to hold a recall election fell flat yesterday as resident Roland Van Liew missed the 5 p.m. deadline to file about 2,400 signatures with the Town Clerk's Office.

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Van Liew time to Move Out

Chelmsford, MA

#1 Nov 4, 2010
RVL has tried to coerce, bully and use his money to promote his ideas rather than work with the town to promote change. If someone on a Board does not share his opinion, they must be corrupt. If that were true, wouldn't the Attorney General be investigating all of town hall??(not the case)

It's a shame all the energy and $$ spent fighting this issue couldn't have gone to helping the food pantry, fight drug abuse or some other community oriented cause for the betterment of Chelmsford.

RVL- if you reallly want to fight all development, perhaps you should find another town which is not already developed where you could really make a difference.

Your inability to collect those signatures says Chelmsford is not behind you so time to move on and find a new place where you can have the full support of your new town. Oh and by the way, you might actually have to join town government to see how much time these volunteer officals donate and how dedicated they truly are.

Chelmsford - lets heal the wounds and move on. The recall wouldn't have stopped the project but people said they wanted changes. Time for some constructive comments (other than no development) about how the RVL chasm can be crossed. Lets all work together for the goal of a better Chelmsford.
Townie

Tewksbury, MA

#2 Nov 4, 2010
It's stunning how powerful the real estate lobby is. 40B rolls on-- & Chelmsdale further sells out the last remaining scraps of undeveloped land.
Here's hoping a multi-story ant-hills goes up in everyone's backyards. FOOLS
Van Liew speaks the the truth
GABE GARAVANIAN

North Chelmsford, MA

#3 Nov 4, 2010
GEORGE ZAHAROOLIS IS A GOOD MAN AND JUST GOING THROUGH WITH THE PROCESS. 7 MEETINGS TO GO OVER THE PROPOSAL IS BEING TOTALY HONEST WITH THE PEOPLE OF CHELMSFORD.
local observer

Dracut, MA

#5 Nov 4, 2010
re: "Honestly, I'm here to make a quick buck," said Jatin Patel of Methuen, a student at Northern Essex Community College

Congratulations to Jatin Patel for being the only honest person in government matters that I have read about lately...

To Chelmsford folks: Why did this fool (the adult, not the kid) waste his time on this ridiculous effort?

there must be personal axes being ground here...
Taxpayer

Chelmsford, MA

#6 Nov 4, 2010
Those of you who now critize RVL must be Democ"rat"s. Here is a person who is spending his own money (something unheard of by Democ"rat"s) and his own time in trying to make Town Boards responsible for their actions (votes). Many persons in Town feel the 2 Town Boards did not act responsible. I for one want to have it explained to me how a board allows building on an agueduct?? Have you ever read of this happening in any other town/city?? How many tons of dirt did they they have to put down before they could build to prevent the building from flooding/sinking in future years. As we all know water finds its own level, therefore, can we expect to see other buildings in the area being flooded which were never flooded before??due to the tons of dirt dropped for this buiding??? Just thinking if the boards have address these thoughts!!
observer

Schaumburg, IL

#7 Nov 4, 2010
Zaharoolis is a deadbeat like his old man -- the ex-chairman of the Lowell PB who allowed numerous friends build on questionable lots. GH should be re-called and re-sent to greece.
Oberserver is wrong

Littleton, MA

#8 Nov 4, 2010
observer wrote:
Zaharoolis is a deadbeat like his old man -- the ex-chairman of the Lowell PB who allowed numerous friends build on questionable lots. GH should be re-called and re-sent to greece.
Observer, obviously you don't follow the town or watch the meetings on TV. George is always prepared and has worked tirelessly on the Billboard by-laws, Master Plan and NMCOG. While I might not agree with his decisions, he follows the law and has the best interests of Chelmsford at heart. He even gave out his home phone number on the radio last week in case people have questions.

George- since you can never hear it often enough, thank you for the time you've given to our town.(remember - he is a volunteer). Even Van Loons paid signature getters were surprised that you didn't get paid for all the grief you get. Keep your chin up and thank you.

P.S. Your Greek commented is unwarranted and offensive.(I am a N.E. Yankee not Greek myself).
Oberserver is wrong

Littleton, MA

#9 Nov 4, 2010
Taxpayer - it's an aquifer and the site is elevated because they are storing the water below the parking lot. Too bad you throw out comments without reading the decisions and doing your homework. If you watched the hearings on TV, you would have realized that even St. Marys' engineer asked the questions and was satisfied.

Most of the town is in the aquifer district which is why they have to follow the rules to get a special permit. Even Dr. Sargent should have gotten one for his site.
Next door to RVL

Lowell, MA

#10 Nov 4, 2010
I want to build a 40B next RVL's house. I will be taking up collections to build something nice right next door to him. He is a waste of a person. He should spend his time raising his kids.
Fact Check

Boston, MA

#11 Nov 4, 2010
Taxpayer, try doing a Google search on RVL's campaign contributions. If he is not a democrat, it is only because they are not far enough left for him.
Taxpayer wrote:
Those of you who now critize RVL must be Democ"rat"s. Here is a person who is spending his own money (something unheard of by Democ"rat"s) and his own time in trying to make Town Boards responsible for their actions (votes). Many persons in Town feel the 2 Town Boards did not act responsible. I for one want to have it explained to me how a board allows building on an agueduct?? Have you ever read of this happening in any other town/city?? How many tons of dirt did they they have to put down before they could build to prevent the building from flooding/sinking in future years. As we all know water finds its own level, therefore, can we expect to see other buildings in the area being flooded which were never flooded before??due to the tons of dirt dropped for this buiding??? Just thinking if the boards have address these thoughts!!
van LIEw is evil

Haverhill, MA

#12 Nov 4, 2010
he causes 2 excellent volunteers (George and Sue to lose countless night of sleep & be humiliated for no reason. He attacks relentlessly one of the best Selectmen candidates, we have had in years (Jim) and yet the disgusting turd is allowed to get away with it.
He loves ruining our town and he is laughing.
The townspeople need to gang up on this evil, contemptous, sick moron.
Stating the Obvious

Lowell, MA

#13 Nov 6, 2010
Townie wrote:
It's stunning how powerful the real estate lobby is. 40B rolls on-- & Chelmsdale further sells out the last remaining scraps of undeveloped land.
Here's hoping a multi-story ant-hills goes up in everyone's backyards. FOOLS
Van Liew speaks the the truth
Chelmsford voted to repeal 40B by a significant margin. Looking at the voter map, it was clear that suburbs were against 40B and the cities were for it (as well as the western part of the State. You can check it out here: http://www.boston.com/news/special/politics/2...
RVL is correct on the 40B matter, but his methods for pursuing a discussion and injecting personal affronts without real basis make things more divisive. I guess that's how politics is played these day - no compromise, black or white, nobody can be a moderate.

I'm glad the recall petition failed, I wish that the number of signatures were published. However, I think there was nothing wrong in pursuing the recall. And, I think the subjects of the recall frankly should have embraced it rather than make all kinds of protestations. Call RVL's bluff directly.

I thought the Town acted foolishly in complaining about the recall, the potential cost of the election, etc. If elections are costly, why no just abandon them all together? Save the taxpayers billions every elections cycle. Oh wait, we're a democracy, with a rule of law envied by many (as flawed as it is). If the Town wants to have an election based upon a successful recall petition, then that is the Residents right, and the Town officials should follow through without complaining about it.

Now that RVL has a bunch of verified signatures - what is he going to do with them? Frankly I don't trust him one bit.

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