Confederate Patriotism

Confederate Patriotism

There are 11 comments on the WTSP Tampa Bay story from Jan 5, 2008, titled Confederate Patriotism. In it, WTSP Tampa Bay reports that:

Independence Day is a time for Americans to celebrate freedombut there's another battle for freedom that still sparks fireworks today, other than the holiday.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at WTSP Tampa Bay.

GJ Tisdale

Inverness, FL

#1 Jan 7, 2008
"Kent Masterson Brown,a distinguished lawyer from Kentucky who is also well known as a Civil War historian,has recently completed a book on the Confederate retreat from Gettysburg.He found that when the survivors came back from the Pickett-Pettigrew charge,they returned to Confederate lines that were lined with black faces.Some 6,000 to 10,000 black men went with the army to Pennsylvania-and back.The English observer Col.Fremantle saw a black Confederate marching a Yankee prisoner to the rear.He wondered at their reaction if the abolitionists in London could see that.Brown has found that many of those black men after Gettysburg took their wounded and dead masters home,sometimes to distant places in the far South."--from"Defend ing Dixie":Essays in Southern History and Culture by Clyde N. Wilson.Page 177.Published by The Foundation for American Education Columbia,South Carolina.READ THE BOOK!!!http://www.faebooks.org /store
GJ Tisdale

Inverness, FL

#2 Jan 7, 2008
'Edgar Lee Masters,the distinguished Illinois poet,wrote in 1931:"Lincoln carefully avoided one half of the American story....The Gettysburg oration,therefore,remains a prose poem,but in the inferior sense that one must not inquire into its truth.One must read it apart from the facts....Lincoln dared not face the facts at Gettysburg....He was unable to deal realistically with the history of his country,even if the occasion had been one when the truth was acceptable to the audience.Thus we have in the Gettysburg Address that refusal of the truth which is written all over the American character and its expressions.The war then being waged was not glorious,it was brutal and hateful and mean minded.It had been initiated by radicals and fanatics."-from "Defending Dixie":Essays in Southern History and Culture by Clyde N. Wilson.Page136.Extracted from the book "Lincoln,The Man" by Edgar Lee Masters(noted author of Spoon River Anthology)New York:Dodd,Mead,1931,pp.478-479 .Reprinted:Columbia,South Carolina:The Foundation for American Education,1997.READ THE BOOK!!!http://www.faebooks.org /store
GJ Tisdale

Inverness, FL

#3 Jan 8, 2008
"Aside from the fact that every generalization in this standard history is false,an obvious defect in it is that,for anyone familiar with American history before The War,it is clear that "Southern" was American and Yankees were the problem.America was Washington and Jefferson,the Louisiana Purchase and the Battle of New Orleans,John Randolph and Henry Clay,Daniel Morgan,Daniel Boone,and Francis Marion.Southerners had made the Constitution,saved it under Jefferson from the Yankees,fought the wars,acquired the territory,and settled the West,including the Northwest.To most Americans,in Pennsylvania and Indiana as well as Virginia and Georgia,this was a basic view up until about 1850.New England had been a threat,a nuisance,and a negative force in the progress of America.Northerners,including some patriotic New Englanders,believed this as much as Southerners."--from "Defending Dixie":Essays in Southern History and Culture by Clyde N. Wilson.Pages196-197.READ THE BOOK!!! http://www.faebooks.org/store
GJ Tisdale

Inverness, FL

#4 Jan 8, 2008
'When Washington Irving,whose family were among the early Anglo-Dutch settlers of New York[New Netherlands*],wrote the story about the "Headless Horseman",he was ridiculing Yankees.The prig Ichabod Crane had come over from Connecticut and made himself a nuisance.So a young man (New York young men were then normal young men rather than Yankees)played a trick on him and sent him fleeing back to Yankeeland where he belonged.James Fenimore Cooper,of another early New York family,felt the same way about New Englanders who appear unfavorably in his writings.Yet another New York writer,James Kirke Paulding(among many others),wrote a book defending the South and attacking abolitionists.It is not unreasonable to conclude that in Moby Dick,the New York Democrat Herman Melville modeled the fanatical Captain Ahab on the Yankee abolitionist.In fact,the term "Yankee" appears to originate in some mingling of Dutch and Indian words to designate New Englanders.Obviously,both the Dutch New Yorkers and the Native Americans recognized them as "different".'--from "Defending Dixie":Essays in Southern History and Culture by Clyde N. Wilson.Page197.READ THE BOOK!!! http://www.faebooks.org/store
GJ Tisdale

Inverness, FL

#5 Jan 8, 2008
"Young Abe Lincoln amused his neighbors in southern Indiana and Illinois,nearly all of whom,like his own family,had come from the South,with "Yankee jokes",stories making fun of dishonest peddlers from New England.They were the most popular stories in his repertoire,except for the dirty ones."--from "Defending Dixie":Essays in Southern History and Culture by Clyde N. Wilson.Page197.READ THE BOOK!!! http://www.faebooks.org/store
GJ Tisdale

Inverness, FL

#6 Jan 8, 2008
"Right into The War,Northerners opposed to the conquest of the South blamed the conflict on fanatical New Englanders out for power and plunder,not on the good Americans in the South who had been provoked beyond bearing."--from "Defending Dixie":Essays in Southern History and Culture by Clyde N. Wilson.Page197. READ THE BOOK!!! http://www.faebooks.org/store
GJ Tisdale

Inverness, FL

#7 Jan 12, 2008
"After Poe,Melville,and Hawthorne,the second rank of antebellum literature (omitting some interesting one-book authors)is formed up by [James Fenimore]Cooper and [Washington]Irving.Both of them achieved sufficient recognition abroad early enough that they could not be buried under Massachusetts obloquy.Both were at odds with the New England spirit.Read Cooper on the nasty lower-class Yankees(in the original precise ethnic meaning of that term)who swarmed into and defaced his ancestral region in upstate New York(Homeward Bound and Home as Found)and in opposition to abolitionists(The American Democrat).And recollect that one of Irving's most popular stories concerns the disgrace of an absurd canting New Englander,Ichabod Crane,who presumed too much on the good manners of the Hudson Valley Dutch."-from "Defending Dixie":Essays in Southern History and Culture by Clyde N. Wilson.Page226.READ THE BOOK!!! http://www.faebooks.org/store
GJ Tisdale

Inverness, FL

#8 Jan 16, 2008
Ambrose Bierce,the noted author,was a U.S.(Union)soldier in the War of Yankee Agression.He served from April 1861 to April 1865 was wounded several times and won medals for bravery._______'During a postwar battlefield visit,Bierce wrote to a close friend:"They found a Confederate soldier the other day with his rifle alongside.I'm going over to beg his pardon."--Quote from "Defending Dixie":Essays in Southern History and Culture by Clyde N. Wilson.Page219. READ THE BOOK!!! http://www.faebooks.org/store
TheTimeIsNow

Bay City, MI

#9 Jan 16, 2008
This is Georgia the country, not Georgia the state.
GJ Tisdale

Bradenton, FL

#10 Mar 1, 2008
The Confederate Battle Flag is a respected symbol of liberty against oppression and totalitarianism across the globe.If you're upset about this,wait until y'all see the 139' flag pole with what will be the world's largest flying Confederate Battle Flag flapping in the breeze next to I-75! P.S. Go to http://www.florida-scv.org/tampafaf.pdf
AFPJ

Brandon, FL

#11 Mar 1, 2008
GJ Tisdale wrote:
The Confederate Battle Flag is a respected symbol of liberty against oppression and totalitarianism across the globe.If you're upset about this,wait until y'all see the 139' flag pole with what will be the world's largest flying Confederate Battle Flag flapping in the breeze next to I-75! P.S. Go to http://www.florida-scv.org/tampafaf.pdf
Your comments deserves three howjdas and three Hims.

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